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rakkety tam
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Re: How Old Is Redwall?
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Reply #15 on:
April 04, 2012, 04:30:35 PM »
i would say around 500 SEASONS
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Re: How Old Is Redwall?
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April 04, 2012, 07:05:40 PM »
But Tam, Doogy just pointed out that it's at least more than a thousand seasons as of Doomwyte.
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Re: How Old Is Redwall?
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April 06, 2012, 09:33:25 PM »
Well Redwall is still standing today actually. So it's about a long time.
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Re: How Old Is Redwall?
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April 12, 2012, 07:29:56 PM »
Quote from: MatthiasMan on April 06, 2012, 09:33:25 PM
Well Redwall is still standing today actually.
How do you know that?
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Re: How Old Is Redwall?
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April 12, 2012, 11:06:48 PM »
Quote from: Coobreedan on April 12, 2012, 07:29:56 PM
Quote from: MatthiasMan on April 06, 2012, 09:33:25 PM
Well Redwall is still standing today actually.
How do you know that?
I think because
The Rouge Crew
was written recently.
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Re: How Old Is Redwall?
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Reply #20 on:
April 14, 2012, 09:12:26 PM »
No. Brian Jacques got the red walls from a building in his home town, so technically it's still standing.
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alderbowbeast
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Re: How Old Is Redwall?
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Reply #21 on:
March 03, 2013, 06:44:18 AM »
In response to your question. We know that Redwall was officially complete at the end of
Mariel of Redwall
with the addition of the Joseph bell. However, the construction of Redwall began early on, during the prime of Martin and Gonff. The building of Redwall, minus the Joseph Bell, is three generations old in
Mariel of Redwall
as Dandin claims that Gonff was, "the father of my father's father" or great grandson. However, there can be some dispute in this as Bryony from
The Outcast of Redwall
is also a great grandchild of Gonff. More than likely they are cousins of two of the Gonff lineage as we do not know how many children Gonff II or Gonff III had. After this the age of Redwall becomes somewhat difficult to track as we do not know how much time has expired between the books. We do know that Rufe Brush is mentioned in
Salamandastron
when the records are examined as to how Martin's sword fell from the sky. Abbot Saxtus is also mentioned by the infirmary keeper who remembers him from his dibbon days as "old Abbot Saxtus." So that is another generation gone by. Between
Salamandastron
and
Redwall
we do not know how much time has passed save for a great deal of time, at least long enough for relative peace to be achieved in Mossflower as compared to the events in the previous books. After
Redwall
the timeline is very easy to track as between
Redwall
and
Pearls of Lutra
there are three generations of the Matthias legacy. Now we are up to roughly 12-15 generations from the construction of the abbey or roughly 240-300 years (or seasons).
In
The Long Patrol
Arven has grown up and become Abbey Warrior. Then in
Marlfox
Abbess Tansy is dead and Abbess Song takes over. Finally, in
Taggerung
Abbess Song is dead and Abbess Mhera takes over. We can add four more generations to our total to bring it to 16-19 generations or roughly 320-380 years/seasons. Now we come to
Triss
. All we know about
Triss
is that Skippers ancestor was Deyna, the Taggerung. How long that might be is hard to tell so let us assume 4 generations have gone by since the events of
Taggerung
. After this we have the final books of the series:
Loamhedge, Rakkety Tam, High Rhulain, Eulalia, Doomwyte, Sable Quean,
and
The Rouge Crew
. None of these books has any similar characters through which we can track the age of Redwall, however, we do know that they occur in chronological order, so let us assume the span of time between each book to be two generations witht he events in a book to be a third giving us 21 total generations. Adding that number to our total gives us roughly 40 generations or about 800 years/seasons.
Allow me to remind critical readers that this is only an estimate based on the evidence given in the books to the best of my ability to understand it. The books only sometimes connect to one another so my number is merely a rough calculation, not an exact figure.
-Alder, Recorder of Redwall and Mossflower Country
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Leatho Shellhound
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Re: How Old Is Redwall?
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Reply #22 on:
March 03, 2013, 01:52:05 PM »
Well done, That seems about right.
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Re: How Old Is Redwall?
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Reply #23 on:
March 03, 2013, 07:14:00 PM »
That is AWESOME I never thought about it that way
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321tumbler
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Re: How Old Is Redwall?
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Reply #24 on:
March 05, 2013, 12:58:23 PM »
WOW!
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Re: How Old Is Redwall?
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Reply #25 on:
March 06, 2013, 05:59:43 PM »
Quote from: alderbowbeast on March 03, 2013, 06:44:18 AM
In response to your question. We know that Redwall was officially complete at the end of
Mariel of Redwall
with the addition of the Joseph bell. However, the construction of Redwall began early on, during the prime of Martin and Gonff. The building of Redwall, minus the Joseph Bell, is three generations old in
Mariel of Redwall
as Dandin claims that Gonff was, "the father of my father's father" or great grandson. However, there can be some dispute in this as Bryony from
The Outcast of Redwall
is also a great grandchild of Gonff. More than likely they are cousins of two of the Gonff lineage as we do not know how many children Gonff II or Gonff III had. After this the age of Redwall becomes somewhat difficult to track as we do not know how much time has expired between the books. We do know that Rufe Brush is mentioned in
Salamandastron
when the records are examined as to how Martin's sword fell from the sky. Abbot Saxtus is also mentioned by the infirmary keeper who remembers him from his dibbon days as "old Abbot Saxtus." So that is another generation gone by. Between
Salamandastron
and
Redwall
we do not know how much time has passed save for a great deal of time, at least long enough for relative peace to be achieved in Mossflower as compared to the events in the previous books. After
Redwall
the timeline is very easy to track as between
Redwall
and
Pearls of Lutra
there are three generations of the Matthias legacy. Now we are up to roughly 12-15 generations from the construction of the abbey or roughly 240-300 years (or seasons).
In
The Long Patrol
Arven has grown up and become Abbey Warrior. Then in
Marlfox
Abbess Tansy is dead and Abbess Song takes over. Finally, in
Taggerung
Abbess Song is dead and Abbess Mhera takes over. We can add four more generations to our total to bring it to 16-19 generations or roughly 320-380 years/seasons. Now we come to
Triss
. All we know about
Triss
is that Skippers ancestor was Deyna, the Taggerung. How long that might be is hard to tell so let us assume 4 generations have gone by since the events of
Taggerung
. After this we have the final books of the series:
Loamhedge, Rakkety Tam, High Rhulain, Eulalia, Doomwyte, Sable Quean,
and
The Rouge Crew
. None of these books has any similar characters through which we can track the age of Redwall, however, we do know that they occur in chronological order, so let us assume the span of time between each book to be two generations witht he events in a book to be a third giving us 21 total generations. Adding that number to our total gives us roughly 40 generations or about 800 years/seasons.
Allow me to remind critical readers that this is only an estimate based on the evidence given in the books to the best of my ability to understand it. The books only sometimes connect to one another so my number is merely a rough calculation, not an exact figure.
-Alder, Recorder of Redwall and Mossflower Country
Good logic and math!!!!!! I'm sticking with this caculation.
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Re: How Old Is Redwall?
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Reply #26 on:
March 20, 2013, 07:16:21 PM »
Quote from: alderbowbeast on March 03, 2013, 06:44:18 AM
In response to your question. We know that Redwall was officially complete at the end of
Mariel of Redwall
with the addition of the Joseph bell. However, the construction of Redwall began early on, during the prime of Martin and Gonff. The building of Redwall, minus the Joseph Bell, is three generations old in
Mariel of Redwall
as Dandin claims that Gonff was, "the father of my father's father" or great grandson. However, there can be some dispute in this as Bryony from
The Outcast of Redwall
is also a great grandchild of Gonff. More than likely they are cousins of two of the Gonff lineage as we do not know how many children Gonff II or Gonff III had. After this the age of Redwall becomes somewhat difficult to track as we do not know how much time has expired between the books. We do know that Rufe Brush is mentioned in
Salamandastron
when the records are examined as to how Martin's sword fell from the sky. Abbot Saxtus is also mentioned by the infirmary keeper who remembers him from his dibbon days as "old Abbot Saxtus." So that is another generation gone by. Between
Salamandastron
and
Redwall
we do not know how much time has passed save for a great deal of time, at least long enough for relative peace to be achieved in Mossflower as compared to the events in the previous books. After
Redwall
the timeline is very easy to track as between
Redwall
and
Pearls of Lutra
there are three generations of the Matthias legacy. Now we are up to roughly 12-15 generations from the construction of the abbey or roughly 240-300 years (or seasons).
In
The Long Patrol
Arven has grown up and become Abbey Warrior. Then in
Marlfox
Abbess Tansy is dead and Abbess Song takes over. Finally, in
Taggerung
Abbess Song is dead and Abbess Mhera takes over. We can add four more generations to our total to bring it to 16-19 generations or roughly 320-380 years/seasons. Now we come to
Triss
. All we know about
Triss
is that Skippers ancestor was Deyna, the Taggerung. How long that might be is hard to tell so let us assume 4 generations have gone by since the events of
Taggerung
. After this we have the final books of the series:
Loamhedge, Rakkety Tam, High Rhulain, Eulalia, Doomwyte, Sable Quean,
and
The Rouge Crew
. None of these books has any similar characters through which we can track the age of Redwall, however, we do know that they occur in chronological order, so let us assume the span of time between each book to be two generations witht he events in a book to be a third giving us 21 total generations. Adding that number to our total gives us roughly 40 generations or about 800 years/seasons.
Allow me to remind critical readers that this is only an estimate based on the evidence given in the books to the best of my ability to understand it. The books only sometimes connect to one another so my number is merely a rough calculation, not an exact figure.
-Alder, Recorder of Redwall and Mossflower Country
Wow
! I never thought of it that way! You must be a math wiz!
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rachel25
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Re: How Old Is Redwall?
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Reply #27 on:
March 31, 2013, 05:16:07 PM »
It might be about 300 seasons old but i think this topic is a bite hard to answer
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