Redwall's "Gray" Characters

[Ciaran Galedeep]

I think I need to respond to an earlier question, "how much have I read" because I'm seeing characters I don't recognize. 

I have NOT read: Rakkety Tam, Eulalia, Doomwyte, The Sable Queen, The Rogue Crew

I read, but hardly remember anything from: The Bellmaker, The Legend of Luke, Lord Brocktree,

The rest I remember bits and pieces here and there.


I'm very rusty on my Redwall.  Its what happens when you get out of school and work full-time.

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So if I'm reading posts right, there's another owl character somewhere who isn't so nice.  Where does that put us with owls in terms of the good/bad species?  Are we saying it depends on the owl kind of like those lizards and other secondary characters?

 its the  owl on mount batpit in Mossflower

[WildDoogyPlumm]

I think Verdauga was a not-evil-not-good character.  He was strict but fair.

[Marlfox Vanish]

Just a thought, in the book "Taggerung" Tagg has never killed a beast even though he was raised by "vermin". Jacques made this clear in the first few chapters. Tagg only kills a beast at the end because the vermin are trying to harm his friend. He is considered the "Hero" in this story, he saves Redwall every one is happy.

[danflorreguba]

I think Verdauga was a not-evil-not-good character.  He was strict but fair.

Yes. Verdauga was one of the nicest vermin.

[WildDoogyPlumm]

I think Verdauga was a not-evil-not-good character.  He was strict but fair.

Yes. Verdauga was one of the nicest vermin.

Well, can we even really say that cats are vermin?  I mean, about half the cats seem to be good.

[danflorreguba]

Are you kidding! there were SCORES of bad cats in The High Ruhlain!

[WildDoogyPlumm]

Maybe, but look at Gingivere and his descendent from the original book and Verdauga.

Maybe cats got worse generally as time went on.

[DeathRage]

Maybe the Cats That invaded Green Isle were bad and others weren't.

[WildDoogyPlumm]

Oh yeah, I also forgot Sandingomm.  She was good.

[Ungatt Trunn]

Isn't Ransca from Pearls of Lutra a grey charactor? She is in my opinion, for the fact that she was on the bad side but also helped the good side (if you've read Pearls of Lutra, then you know what I mean).

[Lutra]

Yes, Romsca is considered a gray character.

[WildDoogyPlumm]

Grubbage was also a gray character.  Good rats are interesting.

[gorath]

Your right.

[Jetthebinturong]

Also how about Folgrim in Legend of Luke? I know he was never truly evil in the book but before that he seems to have been more evil than most villains, I mean can you think of any cannibal villains apart from Gulo and Cluny? (yes cluny was a cannibal, he considered eating the voles and Plumpen's family)

[Orinoco]

Also how about Folgrim in Legend of Luke? I know he was never truly evil in the book but before that he seems to have been more evil than most villains, I mean can you think of any cannibal villains apart from Gulo and Cluny? (yes cluny was a cannibal, he considered eating the voles and Plumpen's family)

Good point, but could that really be considered cannabalism? I mean, cannabalism's when you eat your own species, and Folgrim wasn't running around eating other otters (Sorry, that's just been bugging me for a while). Anyways, I also think Folgrim was grey.