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Brian Jacques' Works (Spoilers) => Character Discussion => Topic started by: Ashleg on March 03, 2018, 04:49:01 PM

Title: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: Ashleg on March 03, 2018, 04:49:01 PM
Dumble. Dwopple. Wugger. Chugger. Gadgee. Toobles. Yooch. Trubble.

This is something that always bothered me, and I don't think anybeast has mentioned it before.

Dibbuns' names--especially in the later books. Oho.

These names, in my opinion, are horrible. They are fine for babes, but imagine when the character grows up and his friends are calling him "Trubble" or "Toobles."

TOOBLES? What's a TOOBLE?

Alas, it is no wonder why we never see any of these Dibbuns as adults. They just could not take the indignity and had to flee the Abbey, of course.

(No, but I am interested. Do you guys agree? Disagree?)

*As a side note, it can be proved that these are not merely nicknames as Rollo grew up to have the same name, despite his being arguably much better.
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: sunflashtheace on March 03, 2018, 05:23:49 PM
lol good point but seriously I LOVED DWOPPLE SO FUNNY AND NAUGHTY LOL
I definitely agree tho
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: Ashleg on March 03, 2018, 05:50:43 PM
There was one named NAUGHTY?

Gosh.

That...

Whew.
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: sunflashtheace on March 03, 2018, 07:44:37 PM
nonono I mean dwopple was naughty lol. They did have some erm interesting names
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: Ashleg on March 03, 2018, 10:15:09 PM
Ah. I interpreted that wrong.
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: Gonff the Mousethief on March 03, 2018, 11:21:53 PM
I saw why's Brian would give them cutsie names like that, but when they grew up, what Adult would want to be named Wugger? It seemed all the older Abbey members had mature names but the Dibbuns not at all. So why then when later books do older folk have better names if the little ones in books before sounded like a cartoon sound effect?
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: Ashleg on March 04, 2018, 12:45:10 AM
Yeah, I could see why, for them as dibbuns.

I think Arven was a good example of having a normal name.
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: The Skarzs on March 04, 2018, 01:03:05 AM
Perhaps some of them were short for something, like Robert being called Bobby as a kid. (Of course, there is no evidence this is the case.) More than likely, they were intended to sound like they belonged to children.
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: Ashleg on March 04, 2018, 01:13:54 AM
I guess "Dwopple" sounds sort of normal, but none of the other things seem like they could come from something.
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: MeadowR on March 04, 2018, 04:50:18 PM
Father Yooch. I think that works okay. ;D

The names can be pretty cute for Dibbuns, but agreed they aren't all so appropriate for later life. I suppose some names have been Dibbun-fied for them to pronounce better or something? Trubble could be... Trudy? Ermm. Wugger could really be William! etc.
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: Ashleg on March 04, 2018, 05:33:45 PM
I thought Trubble was a guy.
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: MeadowR on March 05, 2018, 05:29:48 PM
Okay, maybe not Trudy, then. :D
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: The Skarzs on March 05, 2018, 05:46:25 PM
Trubbick? Just plain Trubb?
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: Ashleg on March 05, 2018, 07:08:18 PM
I would agree with this is there was a scrap of evidence towards it.

(Though there was one hero with a very stupid name...he was a hedgehog and all around not memorable, a thief I think...)
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: Cornflower MM on March 05, 2018, 07:17:33 PM
Orkwil?
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: The Skarzs on March 05, 2018, 07:51:18 PM
Bowly Pintips?
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: Ashleg on March 05, 2018, 09:53:42 PM
Not sure, but Bowly certainly fits as one of these Dibbun names.
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: Cornflower MM on March 06, 2018, 05:30:26 PM
While we're on the topic of names, how about this lack of one: the mousebabe. From Lord Brocktree.
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: The Skarzs on March 06, 2018, 05:46:45 PM
As well as from The Bellmaker. He is referred to as "mousebabe" as if it were a name.
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: Ashleg on March 06, 2018, 06:47:09 PM
And then when he grew up, "Mouseadult" wouldn't do so he named himself.
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: The Skarzs on March 06, 2018, 07:54:16 PM
Yeah, probably named himself Gurnag, destroyer of worlds.
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: Ashleg on March 06, 2018, 09:23:45 PM
I can respect that.
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: Cornflower MM on March 08, 2018, 01:53:28 AM
Quote from: The Skarzs on March 06, 2018, 05:46:45 PM
As well as from The Bellmaker. He is referred to as "mousebabe" as if it were a name.

There were two?! O.o
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: Ashleg on March 08, 2018, 02:09:40 AM
Two lives...ruined.
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: MeadowR on March 08, 2018, 10:40:08 PM
It makes so little sense not to name them! Why just mousebabe, why???
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: Ashleg on March 11, 2018, 06:49:27 AM
They were not worth it.
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: MeadowR on March 11, 2018, 06:14:45 PM
That's not good enough an answer for me! :D More minor characters were given names!
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: Ashleg on March 15, 2018, 05:58:13 PM
The Redwallers had a book of names to choose from, and they ran out. Unfortunately, they were not allowed to use anything not on the list, but "Species" was an option.
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: The Grey Coincidence on March 17, 2018, 08:46:13 PM
Quote from: Cornflower MM on March 08, 2018, 01:53:28 AM
There were two?! O.o
It could have been a time-travelling mousebabe, so one.
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: Ashleg on March 17, 2018, 09:15:04 PM
Highly doubtful.
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: sunflashtheace on April 16, 2018, 01:50:05 PM
You forgot bungo!!!
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: Ashleg on April 16, 2018, 07:03:30 PM
Bungo is a horrid name.
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: Sebias of Redwall on April 24, 2019, 10:34:17 PM
Quote from: Ashleg on March 06, 2018, 06:47:09 PM
And then when he grew up, "Mouseadult" wouldn't do so he named himself.
Lol.

*reboot*
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: Tungro on April 24, 2019, 10:43:05 PM
In my opinion the worst dibun names came from Rakkety Tam,
Oneshrew and Twoshrew all the way to 16? How lame is that? Even reusing names would be better.
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: The Skarzs on April 24, 2019, 11:27:48 PM
That would be better. In real life, it's very common to reuse names.
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: Sebias of Redwall on April 25, 2019, 12:00:10 AM
They even do that a bit in the books. Like Log-a-log and the Skippers.
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: MathLuk on April 25, 2019, 02:57:38 AM
Some cultures even use the same name for brothers and sisters. They have to use middle names for identification. When they don't have middle names, it can get very confusing.

Ah well, better than numbering your kids, I suppose.
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: Tungro on April 25, 2019, 08:46:19 PM
Quote from: Sebias of Redwall on April 25, 2019, 12:00:10 AM
They even do that a bit in the books. Like Log-a-log and the Skippers.
Those are more titles then names
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: Sebias of Redwall on April 26, 2019, 08:03:52 PM
Quote from: Tungro on April 25, 2019, 08:46:19 PM
Those are more titles then names
That's actually true because I remember some of the Skippers had first names that weren't Skipper.
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: Jetthebinturong on April 27, 2019, 12:15:59 AM
Yeah. Also Log-a-Logs Big Club and Tugga Bruster.
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: The Skarzs on April 27, 2019, 04:25:28 PM
Oy vey. "Big Club" cannot be a real name.
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: Jack the Quick on May 25, 2019, 06:48:56 PM
Quote from: Ashleg on March 15, 2018, 05:58:13 PM
The Redwallers had a book of names to choose from, and they ran out. Unfortunately, they were not allowed to use anything not on the list, but "Species" was an option.
I don't remember that... But aside from that, it appeared that BJ took a little bit more time naming dibbuns that he intended to return, like Rollo and Arven.
Quote from: Tungro on April 24, 2019, 10:43:05 PM
In my opinion the worst dibun names came from Rakkety Tam,
Oneshrew and Twoshrew all the way to 16? How lame is that? Even reusing names would be better.
They did rename them sometimes, for example there was two Martins
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: Sebias of Redwall on May 25, 2019, 06:53:52 PM
Quote from: Jack the Quick on May 25, 2019, 06:48:56 PM
Quote from: Ashleg on March 15, 2018, 05:58:13 PM
They did rename them sometimes, for example there was two Martins
Well...Three if you include the Older Martin that Martin the Warrior was named after.
Title: Re: Dibbuns' Names
Post by: Jack the Quick on June 09, 2019, 05:33:38 PM
Well, Dwopple for example had an overprotective guardian who babied him, so that one kind of makes sense.