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Brian Jacques' Works (Spoilers) => Character Discussion => Topic started by: Lord Daskar on January 29, 2016, 10:05:43 PM

Poll
Question: Which is your favorite one?
Option 1: Dinny. (Mossflower. The Legend of Luke.) votes: 14
Option 2: Axtel Sternclaw. (The Sable Quean.) votes: 6
Title: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on January 29, 2016, 10:05:43 PM
This will be changing.

Winners:
Rake Nightfur.
Lord Brocktree.
Rakkety Tam.
Tagg.
Mariel.
Finnbarr Galedeep.
Gonff, Prince of Mousethieves.
Badrang.
Shogg.
Sawney Wrath.
Dandin.
Zwilt the Shade.
The Skipper from Mossflower.
Bragoon.
Stiffener Medick.

Losers:
Major Perigord.
Lady Cregga.
Buckler the Blademaster.
Grath Longfletch.
Tiria Wildlough.
Leatho Shellhound.
Martin the Warrior.
Clogg.
Kroova Wavedog.
Gulo the Savage.
Saxtus.
Vilaya, the Sable Quean.
Lady Amber.
Saro.
Wonwill.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: The Skarzs on January 30, 2016, 12:31:05 AM
I actually rather liked Major Perigord.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Groddil on January 30, 2016, 12:37:47 AM
I voted Perigord since I haven't read whatever book Rake is in.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: The Skarzs on January 30, 2016, 12:42:24 AM
He's from the Rogue Crew.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Groddil on January 30, 2016, 01:12:14 AM
No wonder, I'm only up to Taggerung.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Tam and Martin on February 01, 2016, 07:22:04 PM
Rake from what I can remeebr. Been awhile though
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Cornflower MM on February 01, 2016, 10:52:59 PM
I can't really remember either of them. :P Sorry.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on February 02, 2016, 03:43:28 PM
Rake is the black hare in 'The Rogue Crew' and Perigord is the on in charge of the patrol Tammo and Russa are with in 'The Long Patrol'. Perigord has the green uniform, is lefthanded and carries a saber and Rake is from the high north coast and carries two twin claymores.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: rachel25 on February 02, 2016, 06:09:50 PM
Quote from: Cornflower MM on February 01, 2016, 10:52:59 PM
I can't really remember either of them. :P Sorry.
same here.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Eulaliaaa! on February 03, 2016, 04:35:39 PM
Perigold is cool, but I'm going to have to vote for Rake. He's awesome :P
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: LT Sandpaw on February 03, 2016, 06:10:28 PM
What is it we're comparing? Are we deciding who is the better fighter, the superior character? The one that's just simply the coolest? The one that got the most character development, or even which one could out scoff the other?

We need details to accurately pick.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on February 03, 2016, 06:53:47 PM
Which one you liked best.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Russa Nodrey on February 04, 2016, 01:20:20 AM
Rake.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on February 04, 2016, 03:11:41 PM
Rake wins.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Groddil on February 04, 2016, 08:44:14 PM
Brocktree! Brocktree! Brocktree! Brocktree! Brocktree! Brocktree!
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: The Skarzs on February 05, 2016, 03:28:51 AM
Yup.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Delthion on February 05, 2016, 04:13:50 AM
Cregga is just so awesome... ;D
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Tam and Martin on February 05, 2016, 10:13:43 PM
NO SHE ISN'T!!!!

Well, in some she is.

My vote is with Brock though.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Groddil on February 05, 2016, 10:21:31 PM
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Quote from: Tam and Martin on February 05, 2016, 10:13:43 PM
NO SHE ISN'T!!!!

Well, in some she is.

My vote is with Brock though.
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Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Tam and Martin on February 05, 2016, 10:27:58 PM
You did all that for my post! I'm flattered!  ;D
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Hickory on February 05, 2016, 11:56:48 PM
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Quote from: Tam and Martin on February 05, 2016, 10:13:43 PM
NO SHE ISN'T!!!!

Well, in some she is.

My vote is with Brock though.
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Spambot.

My vote lies with Brocktree, however much of a Sue he is. A literal battle tank.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: The Skarzs on February 07, 2016, 05:38:16 AM
Well, I like him because of him being the kind of "original" badger lord.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Banya on February 08, 2016, 09:47:28 PM
I like Brocktree for his friendship with Dotti and the events that occurred before he battled Ungatt Trunn.  We got to know him before he became the ruler of Salamandastron.  I do like Cregga, too, in every book she's in.

Rake Nightfur is one of my favourite hares from the entire series.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Captain Tammo on February 11, 2016, 05:54:41 AM
Cregga all the way!
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on February 12, 2016, 03:25:44 PM
Brocktree wins.

New Poll.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: The Skarzs on February 12, 2016, 04:18:50 PM
Ooh, a tie. I rather liked Rakkety Tam, though I'll have to reread the books again.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Ashleg on February 12, 2016, 09:22:35 PM
Buckler, since I didn't read Rakkety Tam yet.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Groddil on February 12, 2016, 09:34:02 PM
Didn't you get it for your birthday?

Who's Buckler?
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Ashleg on February 12, 2016, 09:49:56 PM
I did get it; I haven't read it yet.

And Buckler was a mole from Martin the Warrior...But there was also a hare in the Sable Quean with the same name. I haven't read the latter book yet.
Yeeeah, which one is the one in the poll?
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Hickory on February 12, 2016, 10:53:33 PM
I would assume it's the hare Buckler. Mole Buckler didn't have much to his name (except diving off a pyramid of living bodies onto a wet dishcloth to win a custard pie as a prize)
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Groddil on February 12, 2016, 11:28:24 PM
I don't know either, so I just flipped a coin and voted for Rakkety Tam.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Ashleg on February 12, 2016, 11:44:03 PM
But that's pretty impressive! XD
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on February 15, 2016, 02:47:42 PM
Yes, Buckler the Hare. I forgot about Buckler the Mole.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: The Skarzs on February 15, 2016, 05:03:13 PM
Yeah, Buckler Kordyne was the main character from The Sable Quean, who was a renowned swordsbeast.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on February 15, 2016, 05:07:59 PM
Or, Blademaster.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Ashleg on February 15, 2016, 07:50:57 PM
Looks like a tie!
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: LT Sandpaw on February 15, 2016, 08:42:30 PM

Its a tough tie, and while I think Buckler would be triumph in a sword battle Rakkety is just a much more solid character, not to mention his book is far better then the Sable Queen, my vote goes to the Borderlands Squirrel.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Ashleg on February 15, 2016, 08:53:39 PM
Aaaand now it's not a tie.  ;D
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Cornflower MM on February 16, 2016, 03:53:11 PM
Quote from: LT Sandpaw on February 15, 2016, 08:42:30 PM

Its a tough tie, and while I think Buckler would be triumph in a sword battle Rakkety is just a much more solid character, not to mention his book is far better then the Sable Queen, my vote goes to the Borderlands Squirrel.

*Nodding* Also, he's the star of my favorite book.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Russa Nodrey on February 16, 2016, 07:09:59 PM
Buckler.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lady Amber on February 16, 2016, 10:04:58 PM
Buckler. Because he's awesome. Also, I never actually finished Rakkety Tam.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Ashleg on February 17, 2016, 03:49:48 AM
Quote from: Lady Amber on February 16, 2016, 10:04:58 PM
I never actually finished Rakkety Tam.
Wasn't good?
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lady Amber on February 18, 2016, 02:13:19 AM
Quote from: Ashleg on February 17, 2016, 03:49:48 AM
Quote from: Lady Amber on February 16, 2016, 10:04:58 PM
I never actually finished Rakkety Tam.
Wasn't good?
It was sort of boring at the time, I guess. :P Although I do intend to finish it. There are some other Redwall books I haven't actually read yet, as well.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Ashleg on February 18, 2016, 03:23:31 AM
Hah, cool. I haven't read anything published after Triss yet (I'm still on Triss), but I plan to read them all. ;D
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Banya on February 18, 2016, 05:53:54 AM
Quote from: Lady Amber on February 18, 2016, 02:13:19 AM
Quote from: Ashleg on February 17, 2016, 03:49:48 AM
Quote from: Lady Amber on February 16, 2016, 10:04:58 PM
I never actually finished Rakkety Tam.
Wasn't good?
It was sort of boring at the time, I guess. :P Although I do intend to finish it. There are some other Redwall books I haven't actually read yet, as well.
I'm glad I'm not the only one to think so.  When I joined the forum, I was surprised by how much others seem to like it; I also found Rakkety Tam boring... the one time I read it, ten years ago.  Maybe when I read it again I'll see it differently.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on February 23, 2016, 11:26:06 PM
Updated.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Hickory on February 23, 2016, 11:27:42 PM
Sorry, Tagg fans, but Grath just has a better backstory. Tag might have awesome character development, but he doesn't even get revenge. Garth does. And not just for her father, like Tagg, but for her whole holt.

And I'm also reading Pearls of Lutra right now, so yeah.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Banya on February 23, 2016, 11:54:57 PM
My two favourite otter warriors.  This is too difficult; I abstain.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Jetthebinturong on February 24, 2016, 12:00:31 AM
Grath. Tagg, while one of my favourite characters from his book, is a Mary-Sue. A really bad one.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: The Skarzs on February 24, 2016, 04:54:04 AM
I do like Grath. She ended up all right in the end, and meeting the guy otter helped her stay out of the hole of endless hostility. It's also nice that her ending isn't what was so common in the books. She didn't go to Redwall to live out her days like so many others, but instead stayed at. . . Green Isle, I think it was.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Groddil on February 24, 2016, 04:56:57 AM
Ruddaring.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: The Skarzs on February 24, 2016, 06:15:38 AM
Thanks.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Cornflower MM on February 24, 2016, 11:08:05 PM
Quote from: Jet the binturong on February 24, 2016, 12:00:31 AM
Grath. Tagg, while one of my favourite characters from his book, is a Mary-Sue. A really bad one.
Quote from: Skarzs on February 24, 2016, 04:54:04 AM
I do like Grath. She ended up all right in the end, and meeting the guy otter helped her stay out of the hole of endless hostility. It's also nice that her ending isn't what was so common in the books. She didn't go to Redwall to live out her days like so many others, but instead stayed at. . . Green Isle, I think it was.

Can't say it better than you two did.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lady Amber on February 25, 2016, 12:56:50 AM
Grath. Tagg was Gary Stu-ish.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Ashleg on February 25, 2016, 02:29:01 AM
I personally loved Tagg, he seemed like a nice guy. ;D :P
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Delthion on February 25, 2016, 04:24:54 AM
Grath...Taggerung was just such a boring book!
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lady Amber on February 26, 2016, 02:18:11 AM
Quote from: Ashleg on February 25, 2016, 02:29:01 AM
I personally loved Tagg, he seemed like a nice guy. ;D :P
I liked him too, but out of them both I think Grath is better.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on March 03, 2016, 03:46:28 PM
New poll.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: The Skarzs on March 03, 2016, 04:56:39 PM
Augh. This poll is painful. :P While I'm not a fan of Mariel, I don't like how much of a Mary-Sue Tiria is. I can't decide betwixt the two.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on March 03, 2016, 05:12:21 PM
That's kinda what I had in mind.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: The Skarzs on March 03, 2016, 11:23:14 PM
I can kind of tell. :P
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Feles on March 05, 2016, 02:35:45 AM
well I don't even remember tiria so I guess the answer is mariel
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: LT Sandpaw on March 05, 2016, 11:06:52 PM

Gotta go with Mariel simply because of her short run as Storm. If she had stayed violent and unpredictable Storm the whole time only remembering her true self towards the end the book, that would have been much better. Alas we only had Storm for a few chapters, however that short period still makes Mariel better then Tiria.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: The Skarzs on March 06, 2016, 02:09:28 AM
I guess I'm gonna go Mariel too, if for no other reason than I liked the books she was in.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Ashleg on March 06, 2016, 02:59:57 AM
Quote from: Skarzs on March 06, 2016, 02:09:28 AM
I guess I'm gonna go Mariel too, if for no other reason than I liked the books she was in.
Yup; that's why I voted Mariel too.
Because her books were good. XD
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Russa Nodrey on March 07, 2016, 07:31:24 PM
I accidently clicked Tiria instead of Mariel.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lady Amber on March 08, 2016, 10:19:47 PM
I voted for Mariel. She was an okay character, plus I haven't actually read all of High Rhulain.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on March 14, 2016, 08:20:43 PM
New poll.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Ashleg on March 14, 2016, 09:56:02 PM
Finnbar's cool.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: The Skarzs on March 14, 2016, 10:07:43 PM
FINNBAR GALEDEEP.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Dotti Dillworthy on March 15, 2016, 04:50:37 AM
The gallant sea otter, for sure! (He's from the book I'm currently reading...)
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: LT Sandpaw on March 15, 2016, 02:39:33 PM

Finnbar all the way.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: The Skarzs on March 15, 2016, 02:48:38 PM
"He was a one-eyed, big-armed, two-sworded Foxwolf eater. . ."
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on March 15, 2016, 03:41:30 PM
I thought Leatho would destroy Finnbar, but Finnbar's beating Leatho.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Feles on March 17, 2016, 08:24:56 PM
FINALLY!
Someone else voted for Leatho
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: LT Sandpaw on March 17, 2016, 09:04:02 PM

I bet it was Leatho ;D
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Feles on March 17, 2016, 09:06:16 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on March 25, 2016, 04:02:09 PM
New Poll.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Dotti Dillworthy on March 25, 2016, 04:37:27 PM
Gonffie all the way!

(Did you know that he was BJ's favourite character?)
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on March 25, 2016, 04:39:14 PM
I might of known but forgotten, it sounds familiar.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: The Skarzs on March 25, 2016, 05:17:30 PM
Apparently Gonff was was based on Brian himself when he was younger.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Ashleg on March 25, 2016, 05:58:56 PM
Gonff forever!!

(By the way, how on earth do you pronounce it? I never was able to. XD)
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: The Skarzs on March 25, 2016, 06:21:21 PM
Gone fff?
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on March 25, 2016, 06:47:58 PM
That's how I've always said it.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Ashleg on March 25, 2016, 09:31:44 PM
I used to think it was like "Na fff" and that the G was silent, but my friend would say it like you just did...Hmmm...
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lady Amber on March 26, 2016, 02:52:30 AM
I voted for Gonff.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Banya on March 28, 2016, 08:12:51 AM
Martin, though there's a lot to admire in both of them.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Groddil on March 29, 2016, 12:03:08 AM
Quote from: Banya on March 28, 2016, 08:12:51 AM
Martin, though there's a lot to admire in both of them.

My vote as well.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on April 12, 2016, 03:32:35 PM
Updated, finally.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Dotti Dillworthy on April 12, 2016, 03:41:17 PM
Cap'n Tramun Clogg all the way! (Hooray for anyone who votes for him for Cellars President!)
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: The Skarzs on April 12, 2016, 04:42:09 PM
I kind of liked Badrang.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on June 17, 2016, 04:47:40 PM
I think it's definitely time for a new poll, it's been two months and five days.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: The Skarzs on June 17, 2016, 05:07:00 PM
Hmm. . . Kroova or Shogg.

I seem to remember liking Shogg much better, and after looking back and seeing what he was like, I will definitely choose Shogg.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Eulaliaaa! on June 18, 2016, 06:19:17 PM
My vote goes for Shogg.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: The Skarzs on June 18, 2016, 06:25:29 PM
*High fives Eul.* :P

If I remember correctly, Kroova was rather a troublemaker, and didn't really have anything one would want to aspire to. However, Shogg was much more grounded and sensible, and he really did turn into a hero at the end. (I remember being sad.)
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on June 20, 2016, 05:43:23 PM
I don't really remember what either of them were like, I need to reread Triss.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Amarith Waterspring on June 21, 2016, 08:27:52 PM
I am not sure if I have read Triss yet...I think I have, but can someone refresh my memory of the characters? (No spoilers please)
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: James Gryphon on June 21, 2016, 08:37:17 PM
From what I remember, Shogg was the "stout and ready" type (personified by other otter characters like Shad in Long Patrol, or Flandor in Sable Quean), a companion of Triss and the others. Kroova is a swashbuckling, roguish, and resourceful ally of the badger protagonist, Sagaxus. He isn't annoying like Scarum.

I remember both of them being okay characters, so I voted Kroova, since he doesn't seem to have any love.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Amarith Waterspring on June 21, 2016, 08:56:04 PM
Ok, Thanks! I voted Kroova too.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Ashleg on June 21, 2016, 09:16:51 PM
Now since there's other people I can say I was the first who voted Kroova. XD
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on June 22, 2016, 10:13:00 PM
I voted Kroova since he's getting destroyed.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Ashleg on June 22, 2016, 10:59:25 PM
Kroova! Kroova!
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on June 27, 2016, 03:36:35 PM
New Poll.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Fatch of Southsward on June 27, 2016, 10:34:15 PM
Gulo was on a whole different level than Sawney Rath. Sawney doesn't even last very long.

In a 1 on 1 fight between the two, Gulo would quite literally eat Sawney Rath for breakfast - along with Gruven for lunch.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Jetthebinturong on June 27, 2016, 10:50:05 PM
Ah but it's not about who would beat who in a fight, it's about which one you like more as a character. Personally, I think Sawney would throwing knife Gulo in the throat if they fought one on one. Gulo, much like his title suggests, is a savage, not a tactitian.

Anyway, I like Sawney better so I voted for him.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: James Gryphon on June 27, 2016, 10:53:07 PM
Ninja'd: Well, this is about who your favorite is, not necessarily who would win in a fight.

For what it's worth, I think it's overly simplistic to say that the biggest one wins. I think of character encounters as being potentially in more than one situation. Past just a pure fight, there's also the Jacquesian "duel of wits". In that case, Sawney pretty clearly is better. In a character tournament draft I wrote up, I actually picked Swartt Sixclaw to advance past Gulo, by simply rerunning his poison trick. Now, I admit that particular idea might be a bit of a long shot -- it would take a lot of poison to do this, as wolverines are infamously resistant -- but it isn't totally out of the realm of possibility. There's other options too, like dropping a tree on him. Gulo's armored hide poses a unique challenge, but there's still some scope for imagination.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Banya on June 28, 2016, 02:40:00 AM
I pretty much agree with Jet. I also enjoy Sawney Rath's unique relationship to the protagonist, and I don't remember Gulo the Savage well because I didn't like his book and only read it once, ten years ago.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: The Skarzs on June 28, 2016, 03:11:54 AM
I did like Sawney as a character. He had a goal in mind, he wasn't completely uncaring of Taggerung, he was actually proud of him, and despite being an obviously ruthless killer, didn't seem like too bad of a guy. (That's not something I hope to actually say about someone again.)
Gulo was an incredibly fearsome foe. Though he was outwitted and played for a fool on more than one occasion, he still managed to be quite the threat to anyone who could challenge him.
However, he wasn't as deep of a character as Sawney, and even though Gulo took part in the entire story while Sawney wasn't, my vote goes to the tattooed ferret.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Ashleg on June 28, 2016, 03:46:11 AM
I was sad when Sawney died.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: James Gryphon on June 28, 2016, 06:05:34 AM
The one thing I will say about Gulo as a character is that, due to his species, he broke into the "Hall of Fame" as a new, spectacular example of a physically intimidating villain. Before that, there weren't too many obvious powerhouses in the Redwall villain lineup. There's Cluny, of course, who had been around since the beginning. Tsarmina earns a spot just by virtue of fighting Martin. Ungatt Trunn should probably get in if his niece does, although he doesn't personally really do anything all that impressive that I can think of (besides getting trounced when he attempted to fight a badger one-on-one). Off the top of my head, though, that's about it. There wasn't much in the way of villains that everyone could agree would just physically blow their way through competition. Until Gulo.

After 10+ years of badgers being the be-all end-all larger-than-life epic heroes, I don't think anybody really thought that Mr. Jacques would make a villain that was even in their class. Readers would have settled for an evil badger, but that obviously wasn't ever going to happen in a black-and-white world. So, it seemed totally out of the blue when he one-upped readers' expectations and put the second-largest largest land mammal that had ever been seen in the series in as a villain leader.

Sawney Rath didn't have nearly as much of an impact on the way people perceive the series. He was just an old, smart ferret. He didn't even make it to the halfway point of the book, and couldn't be classified as a main villain. He's a cool character, but not an influential one. Gulo was perceived as a real gamechanger.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Ashleg on June 28, 2016, 06:56:19 AM
Haven't read Gulo's book yet, but I've heard there wasn't much personality to him once you looked past that "awe-factor".
Is that right or wrong?

I'll find out for myself eventually, but until then...  ;)
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: James Gryphon on June 28, 2016, 07:14:49 AM
I think that's mostly a fair statement. He doesn't really embody many traits that the others don't just as much. He's mean; so is Gabool. He's tough; so is Cluny. He's crazy; so's Tsarmina. The biggest thing that does stand out about his character is that he's fearless. He never runs away from anyone and goes down fighting. Up until the moment he's actually killed, he's still a threat; there's never a time when he looks wide-eyed at the hero after getting outfought, begs for mercy, or resorts to a trick to try to stave off death.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Ashleg on June 28, 2016, 07:24:33 AM
Sounds much better than the villains that came in the books a bit before him (Kurda and whatsisname from Loamhedge).  ;D

But ayye, since the poll didn't ask who was stronger or more threatening I'm stickin' with Sawney, because he also broke some kinds of barriers, but in the opposite way.
As far as I remember, he was the first villain with some positive traits--he loved Tagg ((even though he was a jerk about it and probably wouldn't have if it weren't for the prophecy thing)) and treated him really well, even though most vermin parents have little to no regard for their kids.

Thought I should explain why I voted him rather than just say "he's cool".  ;)
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Hickory on June 29, 2016, 04:36:49 AM
Raga Bol was built up to be something akin to Damug. He was a powerful rat villain who could assert himself, with a cool hook to boot, but his reputation was quickly tarnished by introducing his failure to kill Lonna straight off. His sword is one-hit-kill - wait a second!

Then again, Damug was fairly one sided.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Ashleg on June 29, 2016, 06:07:17 AM
Damung and him were interesting enough while reading their respective books, but give it a month or two and I'd already forgotten their names.

...sigh.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Delthion on July 07, 2016, 04:24:21 AM
I voted for Gulo because I don't remember Taggerung very well and I found it immensely boring.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on July 07, 2016, 04:17:39 PM
New Poll.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Dotti Dillworthy on July 08, 2016, 12:31:01 PM
Dandin the Swordcarrier for the win!
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: CaptainRocktree on July 09, 2016, 03:01:45 AM
Saxtus!  ;D
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Ashleg on July 09, 2016, 03:05:58 AM
Don't remember either of them besides the fact that their names ring a bell (Ohhh! Unintentional Mariel Puns!) Would somebeast mind giving me a refresher?
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Jetthebinturong on July 09, 2016, 03:13:11 AM
Dandin was the abbey warrior and descendant of Gonff. Saxtus was Dandin's best friend who was very studious and intelligent. He later became the Abbot.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: The Skarzs on July 09, 2016, 03:26:31 AM
Saxtus was a bit of a Gary-Stu, while Dandin was much too rambunctious for my preferences. . . I don't know.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Hickory on July 09, 2016, 04:38:15 AM
They were both Gary Stu's, Dandin more so than Saxtus. In my opinion.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: James Gryphon on July 09, 2016, 02:59:55 PM
I don't really see how Saxtus was a Stu. He didn't do anything. Suedom isn't just about a perfect personality, it also involves unrealistic skills. And from my recollection, Dandin has always been considered one of the weakest male protagonists (although that might have something to do with him being teamed up with Mariel, who did all of the fighting, with a rope).
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: LT Sandpaw on July 09, 2016, 04:24:42 PM

I just don't remember Saxtus doing anything interesting. He did have that one moment when he said the poem which brought Mariel back, and he knew what Martin looked like, but other then that he didn't do anything, and was forgettable.

Dandin in Mariel of Redwall was kinda the same way. Though he does have his moments, like when he got sucked into the mud, and got captured by the pirates. But for the most part he didn't seem essential, because Mariel probably could have completed her quest without him. I liked him a lot more in the Bellmaker, I actually liked a lot of the characters a little more in the Bellmaker, it was just a better book. :P
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on July 14, 2016, 09:31:33 PM
New Poll.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: The Skarzs on July 14, 2016, 10:10:47 PM
Zwilt. I liked his weapon, I guess, and his physical description was cool.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Delthion on July 14, 2016, 10:23:40 PM
Zwilt was awesome. I was so happy when I thought that he had killed Vilaya. ;D
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: The Skarzs on July 14, 2016, 10:40:00 PM
I was a little bit surprised, actually. But yeah, I liked that part too. (I also liked Vilaya's come back, but Zwilt still takes the spotlight.)
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: LT Sandpaw on July 15, 2016, 12:48:44 AM

I find this choice difficult because I really didn't like either character. I feel like if Zwilt had actually been a real threat to the Blademaster he would have been more interesting. He was built up to be amazing and then he gets trumped immediately. Still at least he is a better sword fighter then some water rats and a hare farmer. ::)
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Groddil on July 15, 2016, 01:00:44 AM
Haven't read Sable Quean. Not voting. Deal with it.

8)
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Ashleg on July 15, 2016, 01:34:46 AM
Quote from: Groddil on July 15, 2016, 01:00:44 AM
Haven't read Sable Quean. Not voting. Deal with it.

8)
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on July 15, 2016, 07:23:41 PM
I hope you didn't read what Del and Skarzs said.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on July 27, 2016, 05:07:04 PM
New Poll.

Since I don't really remember Skipper I wont be voting.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: The Skarzs on July 27, 2016, 05:14:54 PM
I remember Skipper. Enough to remember I liked him.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Ashleg on July 27, 2016, 05:55:17 PM
I named a plush otter after Mossflower's Skipper back in sixth grade. So, the answer would have to be Skipper. :D
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on August 02, 2016, 06:56:57 PM
Just in time, Soren. You save us from a tie.

New poll.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: alexandre on August 07, 2016, 06:56:08 AM
BRAGOOOOOOOOOOON of course ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Ashleg on August 07, 2016, 09:13:49 PM
Quote from: alexandre on August 07, 2016, 06:56:08 AM
BRAGOOOOOOOOOOON of course ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Also, who won?
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: alexandre on August 07, 2016, 10:54:37 PM
Quote from: Ashleg on August 07, 2016, 09:13:49 PM
Quote from: alexandre on August 07, 2016, 06:56:08 AM
BRAGOOOOOOOOOOON of course ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Also, who won?

BRAGOOOOOOOOOOON of course ;)  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on August 08, 2016, 04:14:18 PM
Quote from: Ashleg on August 07, 2016, 09:13:49 PM
Quote from: alexandre on August 07, 2016, 06:56:08 AM
BRAGOOOOOOOOOOON of course ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Also, who won?
It hasn't been a week yet. Neither of them have won.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Ashleg on August 09, 2016, 04:33:54 AM
No, mate, I'm asking who won the last poll.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Groddil on August 09, 2016, 04:41:18 AM
I think it was Skipper. Could be wrong, though.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on August 09, 2016, 04:42:37 PM
Quote from: Ashleg on August 09, 2016, 04:33:54 AM
No, mate, I'm asking who won the last poll.
Oh. Groddil's right, it was Skipper. If you ever want to know again they're all on the first post.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on August 11, 2016, 07:28:10 PM
Updated.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: alexandre on August 11, 2016, 11:19:21 PM
Rose is definitely my favorite. I cried after her death in the book and the show.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Rosie Willowwater on August 12, 2016, 01:34:12 AM


This. Song. Breaks. My. Heart. In a good way
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: alexandre on August 12, 2016, 03:43:56 AM
Quote from: Rosie Willowwater on August 12, 2016, 01:34:12 AM


This. Song. Breaks. My. Heart. In a good way

I agree, I just watched that and cried.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Ashleg on August 12, 2016, 04:52:57 AM
I don't see the hype about Rose. She bored me.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Groddil on August 12, 2016, 06:20:49 AM
Quote from: Ashleg on August 12, 2016, 04:52:57 AM
I don't see the hype about Rose. She bored me.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Jetthebinturong on August 12, 2016, 01:28:52 PM
Quote from: Groddil on August 12, 2016, 06:20:49 AM
Quote from: Ashleg on August 12, 2016, 04:52:57 AM
I don't see the hype about Rose. She bored me.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Hickory on August 12, 2016, 01:31:03 PM
Quote from: Jet the binturong on August 12, 2016, 01:28:52 PM
Quote from: Groddil on August 12, 2016, 06:20:49 AM
Quote from: Ashleg on August 12, 2016, 04:52:57 AM
I don't see the hype about Rose. She bored me.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Rosie Willowwater on August 12, 2016, 01:34:41 PM
YOU GUYS ARE KILLING ME
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Eulaliaaa! on August 12, 2016, 06:23:41 PM
Quote from: Rosie Willowwater on August 12, 2016, 01:34:41 PM
YOU GUYS ARE KILLING ME
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Delthion on August 12, 2016, 07:56:11 PM
Quote from: alexandre on August 12, 2016, 03:43:56 AM
Quote from: Rosie Willowwater on August 12, 2016, 01:34:12 AM


This. Song. Breaks. My. Heart. In a good way

I agree, I just watched that and cried.

I haven't heard that in a very long time...now I need to wait for my heart to rise out of my stomach! ;D
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Ashleg on August 13, 2016, 12:42:23 AM
Brome! Brome! Brome!
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on August 18, 2016, 10:28:13 PM
Brome wins.

New poll. Would someone tell me which book Wonwill is from?
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Hickory on August 18, 2016, 10:43:39 PM
Rakkety Tam.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Groddil on August 18, 2016, 11:32:56 PM
Quote from: Lord Daskar on August 18, 2016, 10:28:13 PM
Brome wins.

New poll. Would someone tell me which book Wonwill is from?

Here's a link. (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Wonwill)
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Delthion on August 19, 2016, 12:06:50 AM
Wonwill!!! ;D
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Lord Daskar on August 24, 2016, 10:28:45 PM
New poll.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Delthion on August 24, 2016, 10:34:50 PM
All hail the Bloodwrath mole! ;D
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: The Skarzs on August 25, 2016, 02:16:11 AM
Oh, no! I loved Axtel, but Dinny was the first mole in the series I really liked, kind of set the standards for all other moles following, and was in one of my favorite books. . . I like them equally!
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Ashleg on August 26, 2016, 04:10:53 AM
Dinny was awesome.
Title: Re: Character Poll.
Post by: Feles on January 18, 2017, 10:22:34 PM
Quote from: Ashleg on August 26, 2016, 04:10:53 AM
Dinny was awesome.