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Brian Jacques' Works (Spoilers) => Character Discussion => Topic started by: belle on September 11, 2016, 05:39:06 PM

Title: The Name Tiria
Post by: belle on September 11, 2016, 05:39:06 PM
Does that name irritate anyone else? It's not the character, just the name.
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Cornflower MM on September 11, 2016, 07:07:39 PM
I've never known how to pronounce it - And as someone who has pronunciation problems anyway, that's annoying But other than that, not really, no.
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Groddil on September 11, 2016, 09:47:06 PM
Pronounciation Guide: Tih-Rii-Ah

No, not really. The name isn't what everyone dislikes, apart from the negative connotations it has. It's the actual character linked to the name most people dislike. (including me)
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Eulaliaaa! on September 12, 2016, 12:17:18 AM
Hey, Tiria is cool  8)

And it's pronounced Tur-ee-ah
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Delthion on September 12, 2016, 12:19:34 AM
Why? I thought it was pronounced Teer-ee-ah.
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Jetthebinturong on September 12, 2016, 12:20:21 AM
I've always pronouced it Tih-ri-ah.
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Groddil on September 12, 2016, 12:38:50 AM
Quote from: Eulaliaaa! on September 12, 2016, 12:17:18 AM
Hey, Tiria is cool  8)

And it's pronounced Tur-ee-ah

Why is there a U in there? Its either Tih or Tee, a U just doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Cornflower MM on September 12, 2016, 12:54:53 AM
o.O I'm sorry I brought it up, then.
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Groddil on September 12, 2016, 12:56:07 AM
Quote from: Peony on September 12, 2016, 12:54:53 AM
o.O I'm sorry I brought it up, then.

Why? 'Tis all good.
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Eulaliaaa! on September 12, 2016, 03:33:58 AM
Tur-ee-ah. That's the way it's said.
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Lady Amber on September 12, 2016, 03:38:22 AM
Quote from: Delthion on September 12, 2016, 12:19:34 AM
Why? I thought it was pronounced Teer-ee-ah.
I always thought it was pronounced that way, too.
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Eulaliaaa! on September 12, 2016, 05:24:40 AM
I have a machete and I know Jiu Jitsu. Your argument is invalid. ;D

That's just always the way I said it. Maybe it's just a matter of opinion? Does Brian Jacques ever say it himself in one of his videos? What about the recorded books? They might be the most reliable sources :P
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Gonff the Mousethief on September 12, 2016, 05:29:19 AM
Wait... What... I thought it was Tria the whole time, not Tiria... Oh...
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: LT Sandpaw on September 12, 2016, 07:31:14 PM

I've always pronounced it Ty-rah, but I know that can't be correct.
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Hickory on September 12, 2016, 07:36:49 PM
Tear e ah.
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Lord Daskar on September 12, 2016, 09:00:27 PM
I've always pronounced it the way Sage does, I think that's how it's said in the audio book too. And no, the name doesn't irritate me.
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Skyblade on September 13, 2016, 01:38:20 AM
@belle

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Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Captain Tammo on September 14, 2016, 12:09:09 AM
Quote from: Eulaliaaa! on September 12, 2016, 12:17:18 AM
Hey, Tiria is cool  8)

And it's pronounced Tur-ee-ah

I'm with Eul on this one^

Also, @Groddil, what are the negative connotations to that name?
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Groddil on September 15, 2016, 01:50:29 AM
Quote from: Capt. Leonardo V Williams on September 14, 2016, 12:09:09 AM
Quote from: Eulaliaaa! on September 12, 2016, 12:17:18 AM
Hey, Tiria is cool  8)

And I think it's pronounced Tur-ee-ah

I'm with Eul on this one^ Apart from the pronunciation. :p

Also, @Groddil, what are the negative connotations to that name? I guess people could dislike the name purely because it brings to mind a certain. *Ahem.* Mary-Sue. Personally, I don't mind the name, but I dislike the character.
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Wylder Treejumper on September 15, 2016, 10:29:02 PM
I feel that as far as names go, Tiria is one of the more beautiful ones I've heard. And I pronounce it T?r-?-? (teer-ee-uh).
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Banya on September 16, 2016, 04:48:47 PM
I'm also on team TEER-ee-uh. It's a beautiful name. There's a part in the books where her friends make wordplay of "Tiria's tiara," which doesn't sound nearly as fun with "Tur-ee-ah." I guess I'm also in the club of people who love the character, too. I love major female characters who fight and are easy for most other characters to get along with, and I don't care that she's mary sue-ish.
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Wylder Treejumper on September 17, 2016, 06:31:57 AM
I agree, I did actually like Tiria. And while in her luck and combat abilities she was sue-ish, on the whole I found her humble, easygoing, and likeable. Some characters seem contrived, but Tiria seemed just like a nice real person who you'd like to know (and I have met some girls like her, few and far between though they are).
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: alexandre on September 18, 2016, 05:40:36 PM
U are stressing way to much about the pronunciation, just enjoy the book.

         
Tsh-ir-iri-rayeaeu-elaliaaaaaa
:o
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Ashleg on October 31, 2016, 04:02:21 AM
I'm on the beginning of section two of her book now.
What's wrong with Tiria?
Does it get worse?
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Hickory on October 31, 2016, 11:51:45 AM
She's contracted Mary Sueness.
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: The Skarzs on October 31, 2016, 02:21:02 PM
A crippling disease.
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Groddil on October 31, 2016, 07:52:26 PM
There is no cure other than a bullet to the brain. She's just so pefect it's annoying.
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Ashleg on October 31, 2016, 08:05:45 PM
Oh dear.
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Hickory on October 31, 2016, 08:28:12 PM
Quote from: Groddil on October 31, 2016, 07:52:26 PM
There is no cure other than a bullet to the brain. She's just so perfect it's annoying.
A bullet.... or perhaps a slingstone.
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Ashleg on October 31, 2016, 08:37:00 PM
Kind of off topic but...
Slingstones.
I didn't used to think that they were dangerous enough to kill a beast but then in the later books everyone was like "OMG Slingstones!!1!-!1!"

So.
Can someone care to educate me on Slingstones?
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Groddil on October 31, 2016, 08:40:14 PM
A hard rock flung at somebody's head at a high speed could probably do a lot of damage.
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Ashleg on October 31, 2016, 10:31:27 PM
But aren't they small?
Like...
I mean...
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: LT Sandpaw on November 01, 2016, 12:30:06 AM
Quote from: Ashleg on October 31, 2016, 08:37:00 PM
Kind of off topic but...
Slingstones.
I didn't used to think that they were dangerous enough to kill a beast but then in the later books everyone was like "OMG Slingstones!!1!-!1!"

So.
Can someone care to educate me on Slingstones?
Quote from: Ashleg on October 31, 2016, 08:37:00 PM
Kind of off topic but...
Slingstones.
I didn't used to think that they were dangerous enough to kill a beast but then in the later books everyone was like "OMG Slingstones!!1!-!1!"

So.
Can someone care to educate me on Slingstones?

Sings were typically three feet in length, while the stones were a little rather small, a little larger then a fat cherry I'd think. The ones used in Rome were made of lead, though usually they were shaped river pebbles, ground down to be round.

They could be thrown nearly 200 yards accurately, at about 60 miles an hour, about as fast as a car driving on the highway.

Something that small, with that much momentum behind it can do some serious damage. Now obviously armor negated the effect, but most characters in the Redwall series don't wear armor, so they are still a devastating weapon.
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Ashleg on November 01, 2016, 02:38:32 AM
Interesting, thanks. ;D
Not to mention how scary that sounds. :P
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Maudie on January 03, 2017, 04:35:58 PM
Guys, we can stop arguing over how Tiria is pronounced because it's obviously pronounced "to blave" which everyone knows means "to bluff" so she was probably playing cards and she cheated and...

Eheh. ;D
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: Lady Ashenwyte on January 04, 2017, 07:53:52 AM
Quote from: LT Sandpaw on November 01, 2016, 12:30:06 AM
Quote from: Ashleg on October 31, 2016, 08:37:00 PM
Kind of off topic but...
Slingstones.
I didn't used to think that they were dangerous enough to kill a beast but then in the later books everyone was like "OMG Slingstones!!1!-!1!"

So.
Can someone care to educate me on Slingstones?
Quote from: Ashleg on October 31, 2016, 08:37:00 PM
Kind of off topic but...
Slingstones.
I didn't used to think that they were dangerous enough to kill a beast but then in the later books everyone was like "OMG Slingstones!!1!-!1!"

So.
Can someone care to educate me on Slingstones?

Sings were typically three feet in length, while the stones were a little rather small, a little larger then a fat cherry I'd think. The ones used in Rome were made of lead, though usually they were shaped river pebbles, ground down to be round.

They could be thrown nearly 200 yards accurately, at about 60 miles an hour, about as fast as a car driving on the highway.

Something that small, with that much momentum behind it can do some serious damage. Now obviously armor negated the effect, but most characters in the Redwall series don't wear armor, so they are still a devastating weapon.

Armour didn't negate the effect. Slings were used to devastating effect against armoured hoplites in the Greek city states' frequent wars against each other.
Title: Re: The Name Tiria
Post by: rrrrr on January 19, 2017, 06:50:58 AM
Quote from: Sagetip on October 31, 2016, 08:28:12 PM
Quote from: Groddil on October 31, 2016, 07:52:26 PM
There is no cure other than a bullet to the brain. She's just so perfect it's annoying.
A bullet.... or perhaps a slingstone.

Spoiler
Rather, a pointy, ninja-star shaped slingstone.
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