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Title: paranormal
Post by: blindsimeonjtp on July 22, 2014, 05:40:15 PM
who like to read about the paranormal
ghost
big foot
ufos
aliens

whats your opinion on this subject
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Cornflower MM on July 23, 2014, 12:17:28 AM
Are vampires and werewolves included?
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Rusvul on July 23, 2014, 12:46:18 AM
Do you mean paranormal as in myths and legends and such, or as in cryptography?

I find it mildly interesting, but I don't care all that much unless definitive evidence of something is actually found.
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Cornflower MM on July 23, 2014, 12:48:54 AM
I used to in a house that also had two ghosts livingi in it. Cool, right?
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Rusvul on July 23, 2014, 12:50:49 AM
What were their names? Were they friendly?
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Cornflower MM on July 23, 2014, 12:52:50 AM
Names, no idea...They weren't very social. Friendly? Eh, kinda sorta....That dang cat/dog very nearly made me fall once!
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Tam and Martin on July 23, 2014, 12:53:38 AM
I am bigfoot.
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Cornflower MM on July 23, 2014, 12:59:17 AM
Mm-hmm. And I'm the Easter Bunny with an Aussie accent.
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Tam and Martin on July 23, 2014, 01:00:07 AM
Sweet! We could get together and have a party!

Seriously though, if you saw the size of my feet, you would say I am bigfoot.
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Rusvul on July 23, 2014, 01:00:33 AM
Hi, bigfoot.
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Tam and Martin on July 23, 2014, 01:00:48 AM
Hi Rus.
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Jukka the Sling on July 23, 2014, 06:35:44 PM
Quote from: Cornflower MM on July 23, 2014, 12:48:54 AM
I used to in a house that also had two ghosts livingi in it. Cool, right?
Waitwaitwait... What? Were they just rumored to live there, or did you actually see something?

(By the way, I don't believe in ghosts or anything, but I like to read books listing hauntings and so forth just for fun.)
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: blindsimeonjtp on July 23, 2014, 07:05:34 PM
I just read them for fun to I don't believe in it .
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Cornflower MM on July 24, 2014, 12:44:50 AM
Quote from: Jukka the Sling on July 23, 2014, 06:35:44 PM
Quote from: Cornflower MM on July 23, 2014, 12:48:54 AM
I used to in a house that also had two ghosts livingi in it. Cool, right?
Waitwaitwait... What? Were they just rumored to live there, or did you actually see something?

(By the way, I don't believe in ghosts or anything, but I like to read books listing hauntings and so forth just for fun.)

I saw them. Plus how do you explain bleach running red on one portion of the roof, and clear elsewhere? The lady killed herself on that spot on the roof. Glasses would tip or break when we were barely touching them. Coffee pots randomly shattered. That sort of stuff.
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Rusvul on July 24, 2014, 05:26:14 AM
Uhhhh... Lots of ways, probably? Varying concentrations of metals in the roof, tremors or gusts of wind... Reverberation from walking and such causing slight tremors...

Or the secret evil underground disco cultists causing tremors with their loud music.

Or ghosts. That might be, too. Can't scientifically disprove paranormal phenomena, even if it could be explained other ways.
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Cornflower MM on July 24, 2014, 05:27:54 AM
I saw them. You wanna deny that? My family saw them, too. Every. Single. One. Oh, and since my dad's a Vietnam Vet, perhaps you'd like to take the matter up with him?
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Rusvul on July 24, 2014, 05:35:56 AM
Our senses are pretty good. Usually accurate. However, they are capable of innaccuracy, as is our interpretation of them.

I won't rule out ghosts as a possibility, as it is not possible to do so. However, I don't believe anything supernatural to be the only possible cause of such a happening

I am not superstitious. If you are, I respect that. I without a doubt find legends and such intriguing, though my preference is mythology rather than modern legend. To each their own.
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Cornflower MM on July 24, 2014, 05:37:17 AM
I'm not superstitious...But, whatever. Ferrety hormones....
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Jukka the Sling on July 24, 2014, 03:38:11 PM
Quote from: Cornflower MM on July 24, 2014, 12:44:50 AM
Quote from: Jukka the Sling on July 23, 2014, 06:35:44 PM
Quote from: Cornflower MM on July 23, 2014, 12:48:54 AM
I used to in a house that also had two ghosts livingi in it. Cool, right?
Waitwaitwait... What? Were they just rumored to live there, or did you actually see something?

(By the way, I don't believe in ghosts or anything, but I like to read books listing hauntings and so forth just for fun.)

I saw them. Plus how do you explain bleach running red on one portion of the roof, and clear elsewhere? The lady killed herself on that spot on the roof. Glasses would tip or break when we were barely touching them. Coffee pots randomly shattered. That sort of stuff.
...Um, why was there bleach on the roof to begin with?
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Rusvul on July 24, 2014, 03:51:57 PM
Cleaning it, I guess? I dunno. It seems to me like there'd be a better roof-cleaning liquid, but I know literally nothing about cleaning rooves, so I'm probably wrong.

Ferrety hormones... What...?
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Cornflower MM on July 24, 2014, 03:56:23 PM
Quote from: Jukka the Sling on July 24, 2014, 03:38:11 PM
Quote from: Cornflower MM on July 24, 2014, 12:44:50 AM
Quote from: Jukka the Sling on July 23, 2014, 06:35:44 PM
Quote from: Cornflower MM on July 23, 2014, 12:48:54 AM
I used to in a house that also had two ghosts livingi in it. Cool, right?
Waitwaitwait... What? Were they just rumored to live there, or did you actually see something?

(By the way, I don't believe in ghosts or anything, but I like to read books listing hauntings and so forth just for fun.)

I saw them. Plus how do you explain bleach running red on one portion of the roof, and clear elsewhere? The lady killed herself on that spot on the roof. Glasses would tip or break when we were barely touching them. Coffee pots randomly shattered. That sort of stuff.
...Um, why was there bleach on the roof to begin with?

We had to bleach the roof because moss liked to grow on it. Although we hated doing it.
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Jukka the Sling on July 25, 2014, 01:14:44 AM
Oh, okay.
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Cornflower MM on July 28, 2014, 06:07:10 AM
Although I hated that spiral staircase ore.
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: The Skarzs on July 28, 2014, 06:16:12 AM
Me and my dad have an interesting theory on Bigfoot, though some people would not really understand, appreciate, or take it as a possibility because of beliefs.

Ghosts are the souls of the dead: I believe they exist as I have nothing to disprove it.

Aliens/UFOs: I can neither deny their existence nor say they truly exist, though I can say there would be definite limitations to what they would look like if they are the ones who do space travel and find us. First: they would need a brain to compute the complex problems space provides; this would also require a way to protect the brain: a skull. Second, they would need fingers AND opposable thumbs to work with and design tools, vehicles, etc. Two or more legs would be needed to stably support the body that holds the head, and hands (probably attached to arms). They would be more or less human looking.
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Rusvul on July 28, 2014, 01:48:35 PM
My opinion on aliens is that if there is so much space out there, they most likely exist somewhere. It doesn't make logical sense to me that Earth would be the only planet to have life- Especially with planets trading meteors every so often- Huge timescale, but fairly often on that scale. Of course, I have no idea what aliens would be like, but if they have any of our DNA (As a result of trading meteors) then they very well might be somewhat like us- Although otherwise, I'd doubt it, it's unlikely that they'd evolve even remotely similarly to us. They would probably require some kind of thought processing system, akin to our brains- and some means to operate their machinery- But I think assuming anything is the case about a hypothetical being is a mistake.
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Jetthebinturong on July 28, 2014, 02:28:13 PM
Am I the only one that realizes aliens don't have to be intelligent? There might be some that have only just evolved which are the equivalent of cavemen. I strongly believe in aliens, I don't know that we'll ever meet them or even glimpse them but there are too many planets out there for them not to exist.

On the topic of the paranormal: I do not believe in things like cryptology or ghosts unless there is solid proof. I believe scientists recently found reason to believe that yeti exist, if this is true I would very much like to meet one (unless they're violent savages that is)
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Rusvul on July 28, 2014, 03:12:53 PM
Oh, you're absolutely not. My comment was written under the assumption that they were; there's far likely to be hundreds/thousands/millions/billions of planets that have microscopic life on them.

Really? That's intriguing. Do you have a link to an article?
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Jetthebinturong on July 28, 2014, 03:15:07 PM
It was a TV documentary, I didn't watch it but my parents did
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: The Skarzs on July 28, 2014, 05:10:54 PM
Quote from: Jetthebinturong on July 28, 2014, 02:28:13 PM
Am I the only one that realizes aliens don't have to be intelligent? There might be some that have only just evolved which are the equivalent of cavemen. I strongly believe in aliens, I don't know that we'll ever meet them or even glimpse them but there are too many planets out there for them not to exist.
It is entirely possible that humans find them before they find us, yes, but what I was saying was provided they DID find us first.
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Cornflower MM on July 28, 2014, 05:29:01 PM
Okay, I'm leaving now . . . L
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Jukka the Sling on July 28, 2014, 08:17:08 PM
Quote from: The Skarzs on July 28, 2014, 06:16:12 AM
Ghosts are the souls of the dead: I believe they exist as I have nothing to disprove it.
Thing is, when a person dies, their soul doesn't lurk around - it goes to either heaven or hell.
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Jetthebinturong on July 28, 2014, 08:22:30 PM
You can't state that as fact. You could put "Thing is, I believe when a person dies, their soul doesn't lurk around - it goes to either heaven or hell" you can't state religious beliefs as fact, we don't even know for certain that there is such thing as a soul though most belief systems have had them
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Jukka the Sling on July 28, 2014, 08:35:18 PM
I was speaking to Skarzs, who's a fellow Bible-believer.
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Jetthebinturong on July 28, 2014, 08:36:18 PM
Ah, fair enough
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: The Skarzs on July 28, 2014, 09:18:26 PM
Quote from: Jukka the Sling on July 28, 2014, 08:17:08 PM
Quote from: The Skarzs on July 28, 2014, 06:16:12 AM
Ghosts are the souls of the dead: I believe they exist as I have nothing to disprove it.
Thing is, when a person dies, their soul doesn't lurk around - it goes to either heaven or hell.
Or Purgatory. Also, God can allow a spirit to walk the earth as a punishment or to as a plead for prayers.
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Cornflower MM on July 29, 2014, 01:41:02 AM
Some people's souls are unlucky enough to accidentally get stuck here.
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: blindsimeonjtp on July 29, 2014, 02:39:56 AM
what did the ghost feel like ?
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Cornflower MM on July 29, 2014, 02:48:59 AM
Explain, please.
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: blindsimeonjtp on July 29, 2014, 02:59:50 AM
like someone else is in the room when your by yourself.
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Cornflower MM on July 29, 2014, 03:02:12 AM
Well, I'm a bit more sensitive to g h oats than others, but sometimes my instincts would tell me to run, and sometimes, she was friendly. It depended on her mood.
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Jukka the Sling on July 29, 2014, 06:17:21 PM
Quote from: The Skarzs on July 28, 2014, 09:18:26 PM
Quote from: Jukka the Sling on July 28, 2014, 08:17:08 PM
Quote from: The Skarzs on July 28, 2014, 06:16:12 AM
Ghosts are the souls of the dead: I believe they exist as I have nothing to disprove it.
Thing is, when a person dies, their soul doesn't lurk around - it goes to either heaven or hell.
Or Purgatory. Also, God can allow a spirit to walk the earth as a punishment or to as a plead for prayers.
I don't actually believe in Purgatory because I don't find anything about it in the Bible. And as to God allowing a soul to walk the earth, I don't see anything in the Bible to indicate that He does that either. Where did you find it?
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: Jetthebinturong on July 29, 2014, 07:57:49 PM
Does it have to say everything about what God does in the Bible? I like to think if he's all powerful and all knowing then he wouldn't stick to a set of rules
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: James Gryphon on July 29, 2014, 08:22:17 PM
Mod: The conversation here was getting a little more serious than is expected of a topic in The Cellars, so I moved it for y'all. Remember to stay calm in this discussion.

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Jett@: I might contest your thought that God wouldn't stick to any rules, but that's beside the point. The idea isn't so much that God has done those and only those things which are specifically mentioned in the Bible, but rather that something outside of what Christians know from Scripture is unverified. Thus, it's very reasonable for Jukka to deny the existence of a place such as purgatory in the spiritual world if she finds no evidence of it in the Bible, in the same manner as how a zoologist might deny the existence of Bigfoot in the physical world.
Title: Re: paranormal
Post by: M.A.R.T.I.N(band)offical on July 29, 2014, 10:24:21 PM
our singer and myself(im the drummer) ghost hunt.