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Title: Bloodthirsty villains
Post by: Log-a-Log on July 18, 2011, 07:24:38 PM
Who do you think is the most bloodthirsty villain in all of the Redwall books? I would have to say Razzid Wearat
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Post by: Matthias720 on July 18, 2011, 09:32:12 PM
In my opinion, Gulo was definitely the most bloodthirsty. I mean, seriously, ripping out creatures hearts to gain strength? *shudders* Scarey. >_<
Title: Re: Bloodthirsty villains
Post by: Nightfire on July 18, 2011, 11:34:02 PM
Yup, I agree. Definitely Gulo the Savage. Razzid Wearat would come close second, and Cluny the Scourge is in third place.
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Post by: Captain Tammo on July 18, 2011, 11:45:47 PM
Defiantly Gulo. I mean, he literally DRINKS blood!
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Post by: DanielofRedwall on July 19, 2011, 04:41:53 AM
Gulo the Savage easily. He was a cannibal, and as the others mentioned, did some disgusting stuff...
Title: Re: Bloodthirsty villains
Post by: James Gryphon on July 19, 2011, 04:53:45 AM
As a cannibal, Gulo is definitely a popular choice, but I'd have to consider a few others as well.

Ferahgo the Assassin, although outwardly charming, derived particular pleasure in killing his enemies... he carried a skinning knife in addition to his killing knife, and we can assume, used it for its intended purpose. Also, I direct readers to exhibit A, his foiling an assassination attempt. Previously, he had been recovering from wounds sustained from boiling water. Upon killing someone, he immediately felt much better, his injuries practically forgotten. If that isn't an indication of bloodthirstiness, I'm not sure what is.

Asmodeus hypnotized and devoured his prey, and took no small pleasure out of this.

Lask Frildur, and all of his Monitors, also ate their prey.

Tsarmina also took particular fiendish glee in her tyranny; I believe it was said that the Mask shuddered to hear her diabolical plans, as she talked about enslaving woodlanders and dividing up their families.

There's also Gabool, who mercilessly murdered Bludrigg, and boasted about doing so to Saltar later... also, he attempted to kill both Mariel and Joseph through kicking them into the ocean, and killed several other vermin by throwing them to his pet Skrabblag.

I might also mention Ublaz Mad Eyes, who, in addition to murdering an entire otter holt for six pearls (however beautiful they might have been), and controlling the aforementioned flesh-eating lizards, also treacherously killed off almost the entire crew of Bloodkeel, and hypnotized Conva into jumping out of a window to his death.
Title: Re: Bloodthirsty villains
Post by: DanielofRedwall on July 19, 2011, 05:07:03 AM
Sawany Rath was pretty bloodthirsty, skinning creatures alive. Also those characters from Rogue Crew who enslaved Uggo and Posybud, forgot their names, despite how stupid they were, they were still bloodthirsty. They ate beasts, apparently.
Title: Re: Bloodthirsty villains
Post by: Tiria Wildlough on July 19, 2011, 07:49:01 AM
Gulo the Savage. He practically revels in eating his conquered enemies. Bluuurghh...
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Post by: daskar666 on July 19, 2011, 05:21:38 PM
Riggu Felis is definitely bloodthirsty after chaining scorecat Yund to the wall and making Scaut slowly cut him up.
Title: Re: Bloodthirsty villains
Post by: Osu on July 19, 2011, 08:50:51 PM
And yet another here for Gulo. He ate his enemies. Not because that's what he eats, like the snakes might be able to claim, but because he wanted to.

Ate. Them.

Ate.




Urgh.
Title: Re: Bloodthirsty villains
Post by: Captain Tammo on July 19, 2011, 09:15:39 PM
Quote from: daskar666 on July 19, 2011, 05:21:38 PM
Riggu Felis is definitely bloodthirsty after chaining scorecat Yund to the wall and making Scaut slowly cut him up.


Yea I shuddered when I read that part
Title: Re: Bloodthirsty villains
Post by: daskar666 on July 25, 2011, 11:14:36 PM
Razzid Wearat is definitely on the high end of bloodthirstiness...I'm still at the beginning of the Rogue Crew and already he ran over 4 young hares on his ship and then burned an otter alive.
Title: Re: Bloodthirsty villains
Post by: Skalrag of Marshank on July 31, 2011, 07:30:58 PM
What book is Gulo  the Savage in?
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Post by: Matthias720 on July 31, 2011, 07:32:04 PM
Rakkety Tam.
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Post by: Skalrag of Marshank on August 01, 2011, 03:21:29 PM
Thanks! I just finished part one of Triss.
Title: Re: Bloodthirsty villains
Post by: White One6193 on August 12, 2011, 07:42:42 PM
GULO, GULO, GULO. Rakkety tamm by the way. I think its a toss-up tween him and Vilu Daskar. Daskar was absolutely E-V-I-L :)
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Post by: Redwall Musician on August 13, 2011, 02:48:14 AM
Razzid Wearat, and Gulo were both bloodthirsty.
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Post by: Mad Maudie on September 10, 2011, 08:58:42 PM
Gulo and the waerrat eww to both of them and glad you at h---gates
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Post by: Tiria Wildlough on September 12, 2011, 08:29:08 AM
I haven't read The Rogue Crew... :(
But my mum says we can order The Sable Quean. :)
Anyway, back on topic... ;)
Tsarmina was pretty bloodthirsty. In one part of Mossflower, she rips up carpets, pretending that they're helpless woodlanders. :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Bloodthirsty villains
Post by: James Gryphon on September 12, 2011, 04:42:53 PM
The interesting thing about that is that it is villainous, but also incredibly cat-like -- anyone who owns one can think of times when their kitty's done practically the same thing to some object or another.

It's interesting how the characters tend to share some of the same traits their real-life counterparts do, at least earlier on in the series.

Also on the subject of bloodthirstiness, Cluny the Scourge sent his captain up on the horse to get it moving again, despite knowing full well that he would likely die in the attempt.
Title: Re: Bloodthirsty villains
Post by: Redwall Musician on September 12, 2011, 05:34:00 PM
My cat claws everything! He is just like Lord Brocktree. One minute he is all love, being nice to my younger siblings. The next minute he is full of bloodwrath and he claws everyone and everything.

I'm with James! Cluny was also bloodthirsty. I think most villains were. There were some that weren't so "bloodthirsty" though.
Title: Re: Bloodthirsty villains
Post by: Taggerung The Otter on November 07, 2011, 03:05:39 PM
cluny the scrouge
Title: Re: Bloodthirsty villains
Post by: Sheep-From-The-Red-Hill on November 08, 2011, 04:14:36 AM
I am going to be the odd one out and claim that Gulo may be actually one of the least blood thirsty villains in the series, sure he was insane and ate his victim but he killed them in a humane fashion.

In my own opinion I would say that Ferahgo is the most vile of the vermin lot, after all if you peeved him off he would skin in you alive in front of your own war buddy's and if yah desert he would send an assassin to chase you all away across the globe!
Title: Re: Bloodthirsty villains
Post by: Skipper on November 10, 2011, 07:05:46 AM
gulo didn't kill his victims in a humane fashion, he ripped them apart, i think sawney rath was quite like feragho because they both liked to skin their own side
Title: Re: Bloodthirsty villains
Post by: Taggerung The Otter on November 10, 2011, 01:30:08 PM
The wildcat rulers
Title: Re: Bloodthirsty villains
Post by: Tiria Wildlough on November 11, 2011, 08:28:40 AM
Quote from: Skipper on November 10, 2011, 07:05:46 AM
gulo didn't kill his victims in a humane fashion, he ripped them apart, i think sawney rath was quite like feragho because they both liked to skin their own side
Ferahgo is one of my least favourite villains. He is boring and there's just something about him that makes him uninteresting. ::)
Title: Re: Bloodthirsty villains
Post by: KaiTheDog on November 14, 2011, 11:36:52 PM
Weren't they all bloodthirsty in their own way? I mean, I don't recall a major villain who didn't kill or have someone else killed.
Though if I had to choose, I would say that Ferahgo and Raga Bol were the most bloodthirsty.
Title: Re: Bloodthirsty villains
Post by: Romsca on December 17, 2012, 02:32:55 AM
Razzid Wearet
Title: Re: Bloodthirsty villains
Post by: WarriorOfMossflower on December 17, 2012, 02:43:53 AM
Gulo. Definitely
Title: Re: Bloodthirsty villains
Post by: Something Horrifying on December 17, 2012, 05:59:45 AM
Quote from: James Gryphon on September 12, 2011, 04:42:53 PMAlso on the subject of bloodthirstiness, Cluny the Scourge sent his captain up on the horse to get it moving again, despite knowing full well that he would likely die in the attempt.
You know, he wasn't one of the first I thought of, but after rereading that book...did anyone else notice Cluny threatening to cook and eat some of his own soldiers? We also have examples implying Cluny saw no problem with eating rabbits or dormice, either. XD
Title: Re: Bloodthirsty villains
Post by: Tam and Martin on December 17, 2012, 01:42:42 PM
Gulo.
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Post by: clunylooney on May 18, 2020, 11:45:23 PM
Razzid Wearat because he enjoyed crushing creatures with his ship and shooting them with crossbows and buring creatures alive and torturing kids with his trident by sticking them in the foot with it. The reason I think that Razzid is more bloodthirsty than Gulo is because it was in Gulo's nature to be bloodthirsty. He was a wolverine, he just loved to fight and kill and destroy. Gulo was also dumb. This combined with his nature of killing makes him just a rabid weapon basically. But Razzid is smart, he knows what he is doing and he enjoys it. He enjoys watching beasts die, young or old. That is why he is the most bloodthirsty IMO.
Title: Re: Bloodthirsty villains
Post by: Corporal Rubbadub on May 19, 2020, 01:01:21 AM
Gulo the savage- no one liked blood more than him, it was his holiday-, and the Wearet from "Mattimeo".
Title: Re: Bloodthirsty villains
Post by: Ripred the Gnawer on November 24, 2020, 10:53:57 PM
Quote from: Osu on July 19, 2011, 08:50:51 PM
And yet another here for Gulo. He ate his enemies. Not because that's what he eats, like the snakes might be able to claim, but because he wanted to.

Ate. Them.

Ate.




Urgh.
Well, yeah, but that's typical villain behavior. I wouldn't mind doing that myself.
QuoteYou know, he wasn't one of the first I thought of, but after rereading that book...did anyone else notice Cluny threatening to cook and eat some of his own soldiers? We also have examples implying Cluny saw no problem with eating rabbits or dormice, either. XD
Actually, Cluny didn't really ever eat any of them. He just said he would.

Has anyone thought about the Flitchaye? They often ate their victims alive.

And then there were those tree weasels in Mattimeo who captured Cheek and would have eaten him if Jess (was it Jess?) hadn't captured their leader guy and using him as a hostage.