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Title: Whatever happened to Martin?
Post by: martins#1fan on June 25, 2011, 05:48:37 PM
1. Where did he die?
2. How did he die?
3. Did he marry?
4. Did he have heirs?
5. Why did Brian even stop writing about him??
Questions, questions without answers!
Title: Re: Whatever happened to Martin?
Post by: Matthias720 on June 25, 2011, 05:58:11 PM
1. At Redwall
2. Old age (as far as we can tell)
3. Not that we know of
4. Not direct descendents, but rather creatures who carried on his role
5. Because he chose too
Title: Re: Whatever happened to Martin?
Post by: martins#1fan on June 25, 2011, 10:28:13 PM
How do you know he  died at Redwall?
Or that he died of old age?
Like I said, questions, questions without answers.
Title: Re: Whatever happened to Martin?
Post by: Osu on June 26, 2011, 02:17:03 AM
Could be he died outside the abbey walls, but his body would have been brought back to the abbey itself because Matthias discovered his bones. We assume he died of old age because Bella says he hung up his sword and lived a life of peace - so really, all we know is that he probably didn't die in battle. Maybe he got sick or something. ??? We also learn (in Redwall I think?) that Martin never married or had blood heirs.

I do wish BJ had written more with him, though.  ;)
Title: Re: Whatever happened to Martin?
Post by: Redwall Musician on June 26, 2011, 02:19:02 AM
Martin is meant to be mysterious. Brian wrote 3 books about him. Maybe, Brian meant him to be an unfinished story.
Title: Re: Whatever happened to Martin?
Post by: DanielofRedwall on June 26, 2011, 07:46:30 AM
He's still a great character!
Title: Re: Whatever happened to Martin?
Post by: Osu on June 26, 2011, 04:05:25 PM
Quote from: DanielofRedwall on June 26, 2011, 07:46:30 AM
He's still a great character!
One might even say the best! ;) He certainly seems to be a huge favorite among the fans!
Title: Re: Whatever happened to Martin?
Post by: Trigoma on June 26, 2011, 07:38:31 PM
to answer number 3 did he marry, in the book "Martin the warrior" when laterose died he said he would never love again if im not mistaken...im pretty sure its in there lol
Title: Re: Whatever happened to Martin?
Post by: martins#1fan on June 26, 2011, 10:57:56 PM
I understand he was meant to be peculiar, however, it could be that Brian meant to write another book about him. maybe a finishing book to end the series.  ???
Title: Re: Whatever happened to Martin?
Post by: Osu on June 27, 2011, 05:00:07 PM
For some reason, I thought BJ had planned to write another book with him, too, though the truth behind that is questionable. I'm pretty sure he never meant to end the series, though - he did end the chronology and began writing every book to stand on its own.
Since Martin, his spirit, and his sword are such a key part of the series, the argument could be made that, really, he was present in almost every book...
Title: Re: Whatever happened to Martin?
Post by: martins#1fan on June 27, 2011, 05:55:49 PM
That's certainly possible, but we'll never know...  :'( :'( :'(   R.I.P. BJ
Title: Re: Whatever happened to Martin?
Post by: Osu on June 27, 2011, 06:08:31 PM
Quote from: martins#1fan on June 27, 2011, 05:55:49 PM
That's certainly possible, but we'll never know...  :'( :'( :'(   R.I.P. BJ
Indeed. :'( Truly a sad thing.
Title: Re: Whatever happened to Martin?
Post by: daskar666 on June 28, 2011, 03:55:03 PM
According to doomwyte he went on a 4th quest.
Title: Re: Whatever happened to Martin?
Post by: DanielofRedwall on June 29, 2011, 09:13:58 AM
Quote from: daskar666 on June 28, 2011, 03:55:03 PM
According to doomwyte he went on a 4th quest.
I haven't read Doomwyte since it came out, when does it mention this?
Title: Re: Whatever happened to Martin?
Post by: martins#1fan on June 29, 2011, 02:56:09 PM
Quote from: Trigoma on June 26, 2011, 07:38:31 PM
to answer number 3 did he marry, in the book "Martin the warrior" when laterose died he said he would never love again if im not mistaken...im pretty sure its in there lol
Quite right, quite right.
Title: Re: Whatever happened to Martin?
Post by: AakashB on June 30, 2011, 05:36:37 AM
Quote from: DanielofRedwall on June 29, 2011, 09:13:58 AM
Quote from: daskar666 on June 28, 2011, 03:55:03 PM
According to doomwyte he went on a 4th quest.
I haven't read Doomwyte since it came out, when does it mention this?

I believe it mentions it in Gonff's journal, where he claims that Martin is out on a quest while he is at home, planning to steal the Wytes.
Title: Re: Whatever happened to Martin?
Post by: DanielofRedwall on June 30, 2011, 08:45:06 AM
Quote from: AakashB on June 30, 2011, 05:36:37 AM
Quote from: DanielofRedwall on June 29, 2011, 09:13:58 AM
Quote from: daskar666 on June 28, 2011, 03:55:03 PM
According to doomwyte he went on a 4th quest.
I haven't read Doomwyte since it came out, when does it mention this?

I believe it mentions it in Gonff's journal, where he claims that Martin is out on a quest while he is at home, planning to steal the Wytes.
Really? Thanks, I'll have to reread Doomwyte soon...
Title: Re: Whatever happened to Martin?
Post by: Tiria Wildlough on July 04, 2011, 02:14:38 PM
I think Martin did die of old age, but I'm not sure where he died.  ??? Anyway, I think that if Rose had lived, there would have been Martin Junior, or something. You can see 'Redwall Fan Fiction' for a story about that...
Title: Re: Whatever happened to Martin?
Post by: sabretache5611 on July 04, 2011, 11:54:56 PM
Quote from: Tiria Wildlough on July 04, 2011, 02:14:38 PM
I think Martin did die of old age, but I'm not sure where he died.  ??? Anyway, I think that if Rose had lived, there would have been Martin Junior, or something. You can see 'Redwall Fan Fiction' for a story about that...

Im pretty sure he died peacefully at Redwall.  I mean there is a tomb for him (and a life sized effigy) deep inside Redwall that Matthias went to in the book Redwall.
Title: Re: Whatever happened to Martin?
Post by: Captain Tammo on July 07, 2011, 11:53:26 PM
Martins awesome!!!
Sorry, I had to say that hahaha
Title: Re: Whatever happened to Martin?
Post by: the long patrol 2 on October 28, 2011, 09:59:02 PM
I know Martin didn't marry because Rose(his love) died.
Title: Re: Whatever happened to Martin?
Post by: Taggerung The Otter on November 07, 2011, 02:57:28 PM
from reading all the Redwall books i know most of Martin's life story
Title: Re: Whatever happened to Martin?
Post by: Muse on November 11, 2011, 01:51:58 AM
I think BJ is best at making characters like Martin. Half of his characters we never discover their ends, in full detail. Martin, Martin II, Gonff, Tiria, Basil,Tansy Pansy  ;D ;), Rakkety Tam, Deyna....the list could go on and on.
Title: Re: Whatever happened to Martin?
Post by: Romsca on December 17, 2012, 02:29:34 AM
If you don't know what happened to Martin, you could always write a fanfic
Title: Re: Whatever happened to Martin?
Post by: Tam and Martin on December 17, 2012, 01:49:02 PM
I don't really know