Usually Brian has a pretty maid to go along with the hero in the story :-* . While reading Marlfox I had expected Dann and Song to fall in love but nothing really sparked. Any thoughts?
I think they were too young
I KNOW ( ;D Being as I'm him) that something happened later on. ;)
I know right, I was kinda mad when he made her an abbess!
I meant they were just too young in the book. I know something could have happened later on! It's just...it would have been wrong since she was an abbess...
Yeah but I am kinda glad she became Abbess because I can't see Song and Dann married .
Ps. Oh Hi I am trying to be back it is kinda hard
To be honest, I honestly (lol) think that something happened with the relationship later on. And BTW what's wrong with the Abbot/Abbess being in love with the Abbey Warrior? Nothing if you ask me.
Quote from: Dannflor on February 25, 2013, 03:34:32 PM
Ps. Oh Hi I am trying to be back it is kinda hard
Ok great well you can tell you perants you are greatly missed on this forum...and as for me writing on here has improved my writing skills.
I think that they could have fallen in love in the future, but I think Song would become to busy doing "Abbess stuff" for it to happen.
Quote from: 321tumbler on February 26, 2013, 01:54:57 PM
I think that they could have fallen in love in the future, but I think Song would become to busy doing "Abbess stuff" for it to happen.
I'm pretty sure that they could work around that. For me, it was just too obvious not to happen.
Yes and no. In the book The Taggerung it never said song got married or have any younge ones.
Why would she? Song wouldn't have put something like whether or not she got married in the traits of an Abbess? Or any of the other records left behind? That would be in less formal Abbey records, and wouldn't be hidden.
Well, if she's your typical abbess, that means she's a sister or a nun and they can't get married
It isn't a truly religious establishment. That much is plain when you've studied Christian history for the past year. ;) And Redwall wouldn't/ doesn't have those ridiculous rules.
Well I've never seen an abbot/abbess getting married or even liking someone in any of the books
Quote from: danflorreguba on February 26, 2013, 10:33:09 PM
It isn't a truly religious establishment. That much is plain when you've studied Christian history for the past year. ;) And Redwall wouldn't/ doesn't have those ridiculous rules.
Why are they ridiculous?
I really don't know. I don't think they're ridiculous either
Quote from: Romsca on February 24, 2013, 09:55:33 PM
I think they were too young
I agree with you. Since they were too yong, and the book dosn't portrey them in there adulthood, we can't really know from Marlfox itself. But later, in Taggerung, Songbreeze is menchoned quite a fiew times, but not onced is she said to have ever fallen in love with dannflor.
I was disappointed when they didn't get married. I was expecting it.
Quote from: Romsca on February 26, 2013, 10:55:46 PM
I really don't know. I don't think they're ridiculous either
All I'm gonna say: People on this site are always saying that it's against the rules to offend people. Well, when someone says something like this about Catholicism, it offends me and the other Catholics on here.
I'm not taking a dig at Catholiscism! I myself am a Christian! I'm talking about monestaries, Abbeys, and other such things as a whole! If I were going to look at this the same way you just took MY post, I'd be mad at you for assuming that only Catholics established these kinds of buildings!
I'm mainly referencing Celibacy rules. I think that the total RESTRICTION of it is going too far. I CAN see how the DISCOURAGEMENT of it is somewhat appropriate, as the main focus of the Monks and such like is to lead a holy life, but sometimes entering into a marital relationship can further this, sometimes it detracts.
Just because they were too young in the books doesn't mean that nothing happened later.
Just because other OLD Abbots and Abbess's didn't get married doesn't mean others won't.
And let me remind you that Brian almost NEVER wrote about a marriage, he mostly left these things up to the readers.
Am I the only one that thinks this happened? Because it seems like me vs. the world AGAIN.
Quote from: danflorreguba on February 26, 2013, 11:17:45 PM
I'm not taking a dig at Catholiscism! I myself am a Christian! I'm talking about monestaries, Abbeys, and other such things as a whole! If I were going to look at this the same way you just took MY post, I'd be mad at you for assuming that only Catholics established these kinds of buildings!
I'm mainly referencing Celibacy rules. I think that the total RESTRICTION of it is going too far. I CAN see how the DISCOURAGEMENT of it is somewhat appropriate, as the main focus of the Monks and such like is to lead a holy life, but sometimes entering into a marital relationship can further this, sometimes it detracts.
Just because they were too young in the books doesn't mean that nothing happened later.
Just because other OLD Abbots and Abbess's didn't get married doesn't mean others won't.
And let me remind you that Brian almost NEVER wrote about a marriage, he mostly left these things up to the readers.
Am I the only one that thinks this happened? Because it seems like me vs. the world AGAIN.
I just want to point out that whenever somebody post something about anything religion-related, somebody always gets offended! Now, I'm not saying that anybody posted something offending about other people's religion on purpose, but it just seems that alote of people get offended about religious statements alote on this forum. I'm a christian myself, but I don't get so offended about anything that somebody posts that
might be mocking my belief'es, but, as I underlind, its just a might. Most of the time its just people's post's being misunderstood by other people of different religions. So lets just try to be more understanding and respectful of other people.
Good point Ungatt, I agree w/ u on that, but personally, I think there's a chance they got married. :-* :D
I'm not the one you should be quoteing bud. Axehound was the one who flipped out over the religion thing.
And yeah, it's a REALLY touchy subject.
Quote from: ZaniatheBlack on February 26, 2013, 11:49:34 PM
Good point Ungatt, I agree w/ u on that, but personally, I think there's a chance they got married. :-* :D
At least someone agrees with me. :D
Quote from: danflorreguba on February 27, 2013, 12:03:48 AM
I'm not the one you should be quoteing bud. Axehound was the one who flipped out over the religion thing.
And yeah, it's a REALLY touchy subject.
Quote from: ZaniatheBlack on February 26, 2013, 11:49:34 PM
Good point Ungatt, I agree w/ u on that, but personally, I think there's a chance they got married. :-* :D
At least someone agrees with me. :D
I was just quoting you because that post was the perfect example about misunderstandings of religion on this forum. I'm not saying that you were in the rong, I was just trying to show how people are misunderstood alote when they post things religion-related.
Well if I was standing nexted to some one who said something against may faith in real life, I would really go all out. But....I don't want to get kicked out of the forum.
On that note,
I think they may have gotten married after song left abbess-hood.
I think that there's a chance it could have happened. It's really up to the reader to decide, since Brian didn't really elaborate on their relationship. I do support DannxSong, though. I think they would have made an awesome couple.
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on February 26, 2013, 11:30:42 PM
I just want to point out that whenever somebody post something about anything religion-related, somebody always gets offended! Now, I'm not saying that anybody posted something offending about other people's religion on purpose, but it just seems that alote of people get offended about religious statements alote on this forum. I'm a christian myself, but I don't get so offended about anything that somebody posts that might be mocking my belief'es, but, as I underlind, its just a might. Most of the time its just people's post's being misunderstood by other people of different religions. So lets just try to be more understanding and respectful of other people.
Well said. This is precisely why we have this rule in the first place, and why we enforce it so strictly. Now, let's get back on topic. :)
One of my favourite authors is always saying, "Books belong to their readers," so I think that it's up to each person to decide what they would like to happen.
I could've SWORN I said that not too long ago! Might've been in a different topic though, they all look the same. :D
*after checking*
I said something similar. ;)
First off, I'm sorry I got annoyed. I tend to be sensitive about religion.
Second off, I agree. Abbots and Abbesses in Redwall may be able to get married. It obviously isn't a religious community.
They might
Quote from: Romsca on February 27, 2013, 09:47:10 PM
They might
They might, but I don't think they did. They probubly just stayed as good friends.
I think so to, when i was reading it I never really thought about them getting married.
Quote from: Martin the warrior on March 15, 2013, 08:05:11 PM
I think so to, when i was reading it I never really thought about them getting married.
Same over here. They never showed that much affection towards each other in the two Redwall books that they appeared in.
They only appeared in one, there were references in others.
It's not obvious, but you can tell something's growing between them as the adventure continues. I firmly believe it happened, but everyone to his own on this one.
(IE This is strictly opinionated, no solid evidence either way)
I know how you feel, dannflorreguba, at least half of the people I ask don't seem to agree with me when it comes to Romsca and Barranca
Quote from: Romsca on March 17, 2013, 12:28:27 PM
I know how you feel, dannflorreguba, at least half of the people I ask don't seem to agree with me when it comes to Romsca and Barranca
I'm not quite sure what to say on that note.... It's kind of hard to make a decision either way.... But that's just me again. ;)