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Brian Jacques' Works (Spoilers) => Character Discussion => Topic started by: BadgerLordFiredrake on July 10, 2013, 02:39:38 AM

Poll
Question: Favorite good vermin?
Option 1: Blaggut
Option 2: Veil
Option 3: Romsca
Option 4: Gingivere Greeneyes
Title: Good Vermin
Post by: BadgerLordFiredrake on July 10, 2013, 02:39:38 AM
Just was readin' a thread and thought of good vermin.  Some I know:

Blaggut
Romsca (the character)
Veil
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: Maudie on July 10, 2013, 06:13:40 AM
There's another one, I know it, I just can't remember the name!
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: Lutra on July 10, 2013, 12:45:21 PM
Call me out on it if you want, but I put Veil on the list. ;)  A baddie wouldn't take an arrow for a good mousemaid.
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: BadgerLordFiredrake on July 10, 2013, 01:26:43 PM
Agreed.  @Mask, what book?
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: Redwaller on July 10, 2013, 02:01:46 PM
Gingivere Greeneyes.
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: BadgerLordFiredrake on July 10, 2013, 02:02:27 PM
Really?  What book?

Squire Julian Gingivere.  A good cat.  Most cats were evil.

Ah cannae keep track of all these braw beasties!  (not going to edit OP anymore)  But I added a poll!
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: Tam and Martin on July 10, 2013, 05:14:49 PM
Gingevere Greeneyes is from the book Mossflower the brother of the cruel Tsarminia.

I voted Blaggut  :)
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: Redwallfan7 on July 10, 2013, 06:08:12 PM
I have to go with Romsca and Veil. They both did heroic deeds that most other vermin wouldn't even think about doing.
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: Russano the Wise on July 10, 2013, 06:20:38 PM
Even though he's not on the poll, Gingivere would definatly be my favorite good vermin.
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: BadgerLordFiredrake on July 10, 2013, 06:21:22 PM
GIngivere is on what pole?  You mean poll?
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: Russano the Wise on July 10, 2013, 06:23:49 PM
Yes that's what I meant. Sorry, spelling mistake.
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: Vilu Daskar on July 10, 2013, 11:13:41 PM
Veil
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: Maudie on July 11, 2013, 02:04:34 AM
Sandingomm, Gingivere's mate.

Quote from: BadgerLordFiredrake on July 10, 2013, 01:26:43 PM
Agreed.  @Mask, what book?

I don't know! Is Blaggut from Bellmaker or Triss? I can't remember which good rat he is!
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: Redwaller on July 11, 2013, 01:48:04 PM
Bellmaker. Remember, he was there when Mother Mellus died.

I voted for Blaggut.
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: Maudie on July 11, 2013, 04:21:55 PM
Then Grubbage is the other good vermin! Yes! I figgered it out!
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on July 11, 2013, 04:59:50 PM
I'm afraid that I must stay loyal to Wildcats, so...Gingivere Greeneyes!
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: Maudie on July 11, 2013, 05:00:50 PM
The poll is  now upside doWn stairs!
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on July 11, 2013, 05:02:20 PM
Quote from: Mask on July 11, 2013, 05:00:50 PM
The poll is  now upside doWn stairs!
Hey, that's right! LOL! ;D
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: Leatho Shellhound on July 11, 2013, 06:52:17 PM
Romsca!!!
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: Tam and Martin on July 11, 2013, 11:59:06 PM
Blaggut is leading by one vote!
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: Lutra on July 13, 2013, 12:22:01 PM
I added Gingivere to the poll once he was brought up.  The other three had about a two day head start on him. ;)
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: Tungro on April 04, 2019, 10:57:50 PM
For me it was a tie between Blaggut and Gingivere, but in the end I picked Gingivere
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: The Skarzs on April 04, 2019, 11:16:30 PM
Oof. Not sure whether to vote for Romsca, or Gingivere.

I liked Romsca because she had some conflict in her story, starting off not caring about the abbot (Abbot Durral?), but at the end, she truly appreciated his company, saying "Your child, eh? I like that." (Paraphrased.)

Gingivere seemed to have been a decent person from the start.


Bah, Romsca it is!
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: The Grey Coincidence on April 05, 2019, 03:42:46 AM
Blaggut  ;D
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: Sebias of Redwall on April 07, 2019, 11:39:53 PM
Gingivere.  ;D
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: Jarky Thistlebrush on August 23, 2019, 07:20:49 AM
BLAGGUT!!!
D'you reckon Askor would flippin' count, wot wot? And what about Voogal and Crumdun?
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: The Grey Coincidence on August 23, 2019, 01:15:58 PM
Who... who... and who?

I mean no offence but what books are they from what did they do etc?
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: MathLuk on August 23, 2019, 01:25:24 PM
Askor's from Loamhedge.
The other two are from The Rogue Crew.
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: Tungro on August 23, 2019, 04:05:46 PM
Why would Askor count? As far as I recall, he did nothing good in his entire life
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: One-Eye the wildcat on August 23, 2019, 05:52:07 PM
Askor was from rakkety tam. He was a wolverine.
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: DanielofRedwall on August 28, 2019, 01:32:24 PM
Gingivere was my favourite as a character so I voted for him, because how could you not like him? He seems like the sort of person I'd love to get a hug from. However, I do still love Veil's character arc.
Spoiler
I just love how in his final moments he showed his true colours. It seems like his upbringing really did rub off on him. I love that idea, and I love him not sticking 100% to his designated "evil" species character traits.
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Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: The Grey Coincidence on August 28, 2019, 02:08:57 PM
I too, love Veil. Purely because you can take it apart and see the whole case from different angles. Maybe Veil was mentally ill, maybe the abbeybeasts never gave him a chance, etc etc- there isn't much else in the Redwall series to really dissect if you will, in terms of character motivations.
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: Tungro on August 28, 2019, 02:58:27 PM
Quote from: The Grey Coincidence on August 28, 2019, 02:08:57 PM
maybe the abbeybeasts never gave him a chance
If I remember correctly, they gave him plenty of chances and he threw them all out the window
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: The Grey Coincidence on August 28, 2019, 04:08:09 PM
We're not here to debate Veil...
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: The Skarzs on September 01, 2019, 07:14:01 PM
There's some topics for discussing Veil, if you guys are interested! He's an interesting character to look at.
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: Sebias of Redwall on September 09, 2019, 03:07:25 AM
Quote from: The Skarzs on September 01, 2019, 07:14:01 PM
There's some topics for discussing Veil, if you guys are interested! He's an interesting character to look at.
He is indeed.

I feel like a lot of the normal rank and file soldiers from the main books were rather grey-ish. Definitely not all of them, but I feel like I remember a few. Two of the ones from The Long Patrol come to mind, but they might be a bad example.
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: One-Eye the wildcat on September 09, 2019, 03:18:40 PM
Sneezewort and lousewort, if my memory serves correct.
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: The Skarzs on September 09, 2019, 08:21:47 PM
Hmm. Well, we can call them gray characters because we didn't necessarily see them have a chance to do evil. The true test is when they are given the choice, and choose bad.
Title: Re: Good Vermin
Post by: Sebias of Redwall on September 10, 2019, 03:31:13 AM
Quote from: The Skarzs on September 09, 2019, 08:21:47 PM
Hmm. Well, we can call them gray characters because we didn't necessarily see them have a chance to do evil. The true test is when they are given the choice, and choose bad.
In that case, I wonder if Ashleg from Mossflower would count as grey...