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Brian Jacques' Works (Spoilers) => Character Discussion => Topic started by: Cornflower MM on August 31, 2015, 06:47:03 PM

Title: Boldred and her maps
Post by: Cornflower MM on August 31, 2015, 06:47:03 PM
Lately, I've been thinking. About the Redwall maps, to be precise. For instance, Boldred. It's been a while since I read Martin the Warrior, so chill if I make a few mistakes.

Anyway, Boldred is a mapmaker - That was stated at least twice. At least. But what happened to all her maps? Who used them? Or did she just draw them, because she wanted to? For that matter, about maps in general. Did the Redwallers ever really use maps? In Mossflower, yeah, Martin, Gonff, and Dinny had a sort-of map. . . Anyway. Back on Boldred.
Title: Re: Boldred and her maps
Post by: LT Sandpaw on August 31, 2015, 07:03:51 PM

Suppose the Gawtrybe snuck into her caves one time while playing their games and thought drawing might be fun and ruined the maps...
Or perhaps they given to the leaders of Noonvale. Either is as good an option to what happened to them as any.

It sounds like the Redwallers had a few maps throughout the series, such as the sketch Graypatch drew. There was also the map that the travelers in Loamhedge and Mattimeo used, both were rather rough drawings but they were still maps.
Title: Re: Boldred and her maps
Post by: The Skarzs on August 31, 2015, 07:08:38 PM
Perhaps it was just something BJ overlooked or thought unimportant; perhaps she did give her maps away to those who needed them, but I think the Gawtribe were too afraid of her to try something like steal them.

Maps are made by those who need them; Salamandastrom undoubtedly has maps, either from its own creatures or taken from searats, and I'm pretty sure maps have been made and destroyed throughout Redwall's history. It's just that most creatures didn't need them.
Title: Re: Boldred and her maps
Post by: Vilu Daskar on August 31, 2015, 07:43:59 PM
Boldred's maps could have just been lost when she died.
Title: Re: Boldred and her maps
Post by: Hickory on August 31, 2015, 08:15:47 PM
First of all, It's shown in the book that Boldred is

1.) Reclusive and travels a lot,
2.) which indicates she has little time to socialize with the animals and civilization around her, exception of the Gawtrybe
3.) All around, she's little known.

Besides, all creatures besides the redwallers have little to no need for maps. Many creatures, ei. the Guosim, don't need maps. They navigate the the landmarks and stars, which is perfectly fine. Stars are great to navigate by!
Title: Re: Boldred and her maps
Post by: Lady Ashenwyte on September 02, 2015, 02:34:47 PM
She could trade with Noonvale, for food and such.
Title: Re: Boldred and her maps
Post by: Banya on September 04, 2015, 06:36:48 AM
I like the idea that Sandpaw suggested about Boldred's maps being given to Noonvale.  It's possible, too, that her daughter Emalet became a mapmaker like her mother and that these maps were kept in their family for generations.  Either way, in comparison to the location of Mossflower Woods, Boldred lived in and mapped the far north; and it's likely that, no matter in whose paws or talons they ended up, her maps stayed in the far north.