Polleekin-Why exacly didn't she tell Martin about Rose's death?

[Ungatt Trunn]

When I first finished Martin the Warrior, there was one question that kept on bugging me- why didn't Polleekin tell Martin and his friends that Rose would die at Marshank? I looked it up on the Redwall wiki. It said, and I quote, "However she did not want to share her visions with others in order not to give them false hopes or bring them unconfirmed reason for sadness." It made sense somewhat, but it just wasn't good enough. She could have saved allot of sadness for Martin and the others if she had told about Rose's death.
Now, I understand that BJ had to make Rose die to have the story of Martin fit in with Mossflower, but with everything there has to be some explanation.
That's what I intend to do here with the case about Rose's death and Polleekin not telling Martin about it.

[GeminyaTome]

She probably knew that Martin and Rose wouldn't believe her. Besides, she wanted them to be able to choose on their own, not be forced to choose with a bias.

[Lutra]

Some would say if they knew of future events (a crystal ball as it were) they would do more to protect themselves, or chance their life to live up to this prophecy that could happen.  That isn't living or life; that's something having total control over you.  If Martin had the knowledge that Rose would die at Marshank he might have taken more risks to keep her safe, and essentially die himself, a victim of the fear of losing Rose.  The fact he didn't know is likely why he survived and lived to avenge here and destroy Badrang.

[Maudie]

It's likely that Polleekin didn't know. She saw sorrow ahead for Martin but we don't know for sure if she knew what it would be.

[Duxwing]

Some would say if they knew of future events (a crystal ball as it were) they would do more to protect themselves, or chance their life to live up to this prophecy that could happen.  That isn't living or life; that's something having total control over you.  If Martin had the knowledge that Rose would die at Marshank he might have taken more risks to keep her safe, and essentially die himself, a victim of the fear of losing Rose.  The fact he didn't know is likely why he survived and lived to avenge here and destroy Badrang.

He could have also told Rose to wear a helmet.

-Duxwing

[HeadInAnotherGalaxy]

It'z zorto' zome future-zeein' rule. Zey cannae really actually tell zem ze actual zing, zey can only give ze cryptic talk.

[Lutra]

Dux, you're assuming she would have worn the helmet.   But I think Rose would've been far more annoyed with Martin trying to protect her that there would've been more trouble for the group if he was so distracted.

[Ungatt Trunn]

I think Rose would've been far more annoyed with Martin trying to protect her that there would've been more trouble for the group if he was so distracted.

But Polleekin knew that she would die at Fortress Marshank, not anywhere else. Couldn't she have just told Martin, nobody else, about were and how Rose would die?

[Duxwing]

Dux, you're assuming she would have worn the helmet.  

Why couldn't Martin just say the following, then?

"Hey, Rose!  I've got good news, and bad news: the bad news is that the seer says that you're going to get your head smashed against a wall and die.  The good news is that wearing a helmet would probably prevent that."

Or

"Hey Rose.  There are old warriors, and there are bold warriors, but there are no old, bold warriors; I've asked the troops to make themselves some armor, so you should, too.  And apparently, according to the seer, especially a helmet."

Or

"Hey Rose, nothing personal, but the seer says that you're going to hit your head and die.  Maybe wearing a helmet would help."

Or

"Hey Rose, here's a helmet.  I've ordered the pigmy shrews that we rescued to pelt your head with rocks until we reach Marshank, so I suggest that you wear it."

Or even:

"Hey Rose, I love you, and while you probably think that I'm being overprotective in asking you to wear a helmet, I have good reason to suspect that you're going to hit your head hard on this assault and have been warning the others about other dangers that the seer foretold."

But I think Rose would've been far more annoyed with Martin trying to protect her

He could advise his entire unit to fashion themselves some crude armor, then.

that there would've been more trouble for the group if he was so distracted.

Telling Rose to wear a helmet would take... 3 seconds?  Couldn't Martin reason with her?

-Duxwing

[Shadowed One]

Well, you see, even if she had on a helmet, it doesn't mean she couldn't die. What if Badrang stabbed her first, or her helmet got knocked off?

[Ungatt Trunn]

Well, you see, even if she had on a helmet, it doesn't mean she couldn't die. What if Badrang stabbed her first, or her helmet got knocked off?

Never thought of that...oh, it just bugs me why Polleekin never told about Rose's death! As I have said before, she could explain it so that Martin would know were she would die and how she would die.

[GeminyaTome]

This might have been mentioned before, but Polleekin only saw sadness ahead for Martin. That could have meant anything: not getting the sword, someone he loves dying, many people dying, etc. Polleekin didn't see Rose's death, only sadness for Martin.

[Shadowed One]

Yeah, it says that she could only see things vaguely. I mean, the poem/riddle/map thing was very vague.

[Ungatt Trunn]

But, when asked what bad fortune awated them she said that it wasn't for her to say. Also, the book also states that Polleekin also told Boldred about it. If she didn't have her facts straite, then why tell anybody else?

[Duxwing]

Well, you see, even if she had on a helmet, it doesn't mean she couldn't die. What if Badrang stabbed her first, or her helmet got knocked off?

Sure, she might die despite wearing a helmet.  However, we have no guarantee that Badrang would not hurl Rose anyway, so wearing a helmet is logical given that we have evidence that she will be hurled against a wall.

On the other hand, what if Polleekin knows that she is not a seer but a crazy beast who has hallucinations.

-Duxwing