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Title: Alternate Animals If Sequels Were Expanded to Other Continents
Post by: georgewilson on November 06, 2015, 03:26:11 PM
OK, here's another alternate animal thread, this time for five continents (North America, South

America, Africa, Asia, and Australia). Feel free to speculate on consequences or alternatives. Rats

and mice appear more or less the same everywhere. If anyone gets the license for sequels, it might be

a start.

North America

Snake = Rattlesnake, boa constrictor
Villains = Bobcat, coyote, skunk, possum
Squirrel equivalent = Chipmunk
Hedgehog equivalent = Porcupine
Badger equivalent = Raccoon
Mole/vole equivalent = Prairie dog
Shrew equivalent = Groundhog/woodchuck
Otter equivalent = Beaver

South America

Snake = Anaconda
Villains = Coati, ocelot, peaccary
Squirrel equivalent = Chinchilla
Hedgehog equivalent = Armadillo
Badger equivalent = Capybara
Mole/vole equivalent = Agouti, paca
Shrew equivalent = Guinea pig
Otter equivalent = Amazon river dolphin

Africa

Snake = Black mamba
Villains = Cheetah, hyena
Squirrel equivalent = Jerboa
Hedgehog equivalent = Same
Badger equivalent = Aardvark
Mole/vole equivalent = Naked mole rat
Shrew equivalent = Hyrax
Otter equivalent = Meerkat

Asia

Snake = Cobra
Villains = Snow leopard? (Tigers seem too large)
Squirrel equivalent = Flying Squirrel
Hedgehog equivalent = Pangolin
Badger equivalent = Marmot
Mole/vole equivalent = Hamster
Shrew equivalent = Gerbil
Otter equivalent = Mongoose

Australia

Snake = ?
Villains = Dingo, Tasmanian devil
Squirrel equivalent = Wallaby
Hedgehog equivalent = Echidna
Badger equivalent = Koala
Mole/vole equivalent = Wombat
Shrew equivalent = Opossum
Otter equivalent = Platypus
Title: Re: Alternate Animals If Sequels Were Expanded to Other Continents
Post by: Vilu Daskar on November 06, 2015, 03:30:03 PM
Why wouldn't there be squirrels in North America?
Title: Re: Alternate Animals If Sequels Were Expanded to Other Continents
Post by: Dotti Dillworthy on November 06, 2015, 05:04:55 PM
Philippine tarsiers (from our fauna) would be one of Asia's equivalents to voles (?).
I think even endangered species would deserve some recognition in the sequels, like the Pallas's cat on the Villains' side.
Title: Re: Alternate Animals If Sequels Were Expanded to Other Continents
Post by: Cornflower MM on November 06, 2015, 07:53:34 PM
Quote from: Vilu Daskar on November 06, 2015, 03:30:03 PM
Why wouldn't there be squirrels in North America?

I'm wondering that too. We have squirrels.

Other than that, this looks really cool. Nice job, George.
Title: Re: Alternate Animals If Sequels Were Expanded to Other Continents
Post by: Skyblade on November 08, 2015, 05:47:41 AM
Woah, this looks interesting. I like it :)

This would be a great idea for a fanfiction or RP.
Title: Re: Alternate Animals If Sequels Were Expanded to Other Continents
Post by: Captain Tammo on November 12, 2015, 02:48:57 AM
I think the African equivalent of a badger should be an elephant!

I can see them as being these sparse, nearly mythical creatures that have incredible wisdom and strength, but do not waste their time on the quarrels of smaller creatures. You could almost think of them as Greek gods in how they function. I think it'd be a nice twist on things!
Title: Re: Alternate Animals If Sequels Were Expanded to Other Continents
Post by: The Skarzs on November 12, 2015, 03:21:25 AM
Greek gods thing: Yeah. :P They would be so incredibly large (the biggest land mammal in the world) that the little things would be either none of their concern or caused by them because of the knowledge of their own power.
Title: Re: Alternate Animals If Sequels Were Expanded to Other Continents
Post by: Hickory on November 12, 2015, 11:37:06 PM
Quote from: The Skarzs on November 12, 2015, 03:21:25 AM
Greek gods thing: Yeah. :P They would be so incredibly large (the biggest land mammal in the world) that the little things would be either none of their concern or caused by them because of the knowledge of their own power.
More like the horse in Redwall.
Title: Re: Alternate Animals If Sequels Were Expanded to Other Continents
Post by: georgewilson on November 17, 2015, 03:09:32 PM
Quote from: Captain Tammo on November 12, 2015, 02:48:57 AM
I think the African equivalent of a badger should be an elephant!

I can see them as being these sparse, nearly mythical creatures that have incredible wisdom and strength, but do not waste their time on the quarrels of smaller creatures. You could almost think of them as Greek gods in how they function. I think it'd be a nice twist on things!

The hyraxes, which are closely related to elephants, could be their priests.
Title: Re: Alternate Animals If Sequels Were Expanded to Other Continents
Post by: Jetthebinturong on November 17, 2015, 05:26:44 PM
Hyraxes are small furry animals. Are they really closely related to elephants, because I find that hard to believe.
Title: Re: Alternate Animals If Sequels Were Expanded to Other Continents
Post by: georgewilson on November 18, 2015, 03:08:38 AM
Proboscids (elephants, extinct animals like mammoths and mastodons) are their closest living relatives, though they diverged a long time ago evolutionarily.
Title: Re: Alternate Animals If Sequels Were Expanded to Other Continents
Post by: Lutra on November 20, 2015, 12:45:45 AM
Actually most of what you have for North America wouldn't be necessary...you could keep the same species for the most part.  Granted certain areas only have certain species, but trading a badger for a raccoon isn't really apples to apples (plus we have badgers here too!).  The only one I can see definitely changing is the color of a squirrel (grays are more common than reds) but everything else does exist in some way here on the other side of the pond. ;)

Other continents like South America or Africa, yeah, you need some changes.
Title: Re: Alternate Animals If Sequels Were Expanded to Other Continents
Post by: Dylan Reguba on December 28, 2015, 03:39:18 PM
I believe there is such an animal as an African honey badger, so there's no need to substitute another species. Also, there are giant Amazon river otters...
Title: Re: Alternate Animals If Sequels Were Expanded to Other Continents
Post by: Groddil on December 28, 2015, 10:06:52 PM
For Australia, the koala and the wallaby could be switched over. Also, we don't have opossums here, but you could subsitute something like a bilby easily enough. The snake could also be a taipan, considering they're one of our more poisonous ones.
Title: Re: Alternate Animals If Sequels Were Expanded to Other Continents
Post by: The Skarzs on December 28, 2015, 10:38:45 PM
Western taipan or eastern taipan? :P The eastern are more venomous, so I've heard. (And they're like the first or second most venomous snakes in the world. . . No miraculous recoveries from bites there.)
Title: Re: Alternate Animals If Sequels Were Expanded to Other Continents
Post by: Groddil on December 28, 2015, 10:54:25 PM
Easterns, yes. I think they're the most venomous, closely followed by the eastern "King" brown. The browns are bigger (at least a metre long, I've seen ones that get up to 1.5m) and have a stronger bite, but they're not quite as venomous. Not that it matters, they'll both kill you dead.
Number 1 is some kind of sea snake.
Title: Re: Alternate Animals If Sequels Were Expanded to Other Continents
Post by: Niki Redwood on January 13, 2016, 09:36:49 PM
This topic is actually really interesting
~BTW, snow leopards aren't THAT much smaller than a tiger. A flying squirrel or gerbil stands little chance defeating one.
Title: Re: Alternate Animals If Sequels Were Expanded to Other Continents
Post by: The Skarzs on January 14, 2016, 12:00:57 AM
Indeed. It really would come down to how much of reality one is willing to bend in order to make such a scenario more plausible.

Also, welcome to the forum, Niki Redwood! If you post in the Introduction Topic in the Front Lawns, you can be more properly greeted. :)