Redwall Abbey

Brian Jacques' Works (Spoilers) => History, Legends and Myths => Topic started by: Ungatt Trunn on April 30, 2013, 11:53:29 PM

Title: Noonvale
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on April 30, 2013, 11:53:29 PM
This just a topic were you talk about Noonvale and stuff connected with it.
Personolly, I wish that BJ had included it more in his books. It only really appears once and is refrenced to once, but besides that, theres nothing more about it. I wish BJ had written a Redwall story that had Noonvale actully appearing in it. Even more, I wish that he would have done something like that that involves Martin the Warrior.
Thoughts?
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: Tam and Martin on May 01, 2013, 12:21:24 AM
T=I wish it appeared in another book, as you said, and that there was possibly a battle there. Like, imagine Martin rushing to Noonvale to save the people there because they were in trouble. 
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on May 01, 2013, 10:38:43 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on May 01, 2013, 12:21:24 AM
T=I wish it appeared in another book, as you said, and that there was possibly a battle there. Like, imagine Martin rushing to Noonvale to save the people there because they were in trouble. 
I'd like to see a Fanfict about that!
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: Shadowed One on May 02, 2013, 12:52:57 PM
I know Free Thought wrote one about that. It was VERY good!
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on May 02, 2013, 11:04:45 PM
Quote from: Shadowed One on May 02, 2013, 12:52:57 PM
I know Free Thought wrote one about that. It was VERY good!
Yea, that one was really cool! Really Tragic, but REALLY cool!
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: CrazyPug37 on May 02, 2013, 11:09:30 PM
A fanfiction about Noonvale would be fun to create, but I would hope that it would include Florian.
(And a salad fork).
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on May 02, 2013, 11:11:12 PM
Quote from: CrazyPug37 on May 02, 2013, 11:09:30 PM
A fanfiction about Noonvale would be fun to create, but I would hope that it would include Florian.
(And a salad fork).
There are at least 3 stories about it, as far as I know. They can be found in the Fan Fiction Board.
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: Shadowed One on May 03, 2013, 12:48:36 AM
Yeah, I started "The Blade of Noonvale" but found it rather uninteresting.
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: Leatho Shellhound on May 03, 2013, 01:20:32 PM
Quote from: Shadowed One on May 03, 2013, 12:48:36 AM
Yeah, I started "The Blade of Noonvale" but found it rather uninteresting.

Yes that's a good one.
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on May 04, 2013, 05:17:06 PM
Quote from: Leatho Shellhound on May 03, 2013, 01:20:32 PM
Quote from: Shadowed One on May 03, 2013, 12:48:36 AM
Yeah, I started "The Blade of Noonvale" but found it rather uninteresting.

Yes that's a good one.
I havn't read than one yet. What is it about?
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: Free Thought on May 06, 2013, 12:03:32 AM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on May 02, 2013, 11:04:45 PM
Quote from: Shadowed One on May 02, 2013, 12:52:57 PM
I know Free Thought wrote one about that. It was VERY good!
Yea, that one was really cool! Really Tragic, but REALLY cool!

Thanks guys for the praise!

Now, the one thing I am interested in is what happens to Noonvale after MTW.  We know that it continues into the time of Mariel and Dandin since Aubretia talks to blind Brother Saxtus, (and they talk about Mariel and Dandin), and correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a book (can't remember which one) that mentions The Noonvale Troupe or Players or something referencing Noonvale? 

I am surprised Jacques did not use it, or the North in general more, however, perhaps he was just done with it... but I'm not..... ;)  :o hahaha

Anyways, any thoughts on what could have happened, and by that I mean how Noonvale would have evolved (or didn't evolve) over the years?
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on May 06, 2013, 10:22:05 PM
Quote from: Free Thought on May 06, 2013, 12:03:32 AM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on May 02, 2013, 11:04:45 PM
Quote from: Shadowed One on May 02, 2013, 12:52:57 PM
I know Free Thought wrote one about that. It was VERY good!
Yea, that one was really cool! Really Tragic, but REALLY cool!

Thanks guys for the praise!

correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a book (can't remember which one) that mentions The Noonvale Troupe or Players or something referencing Noonvale? 


The book is Marlfox. And yes, they are mentioned as being from Noonvale. But besides that, there is no other refrence of Noonvale after that.
Quote from: Free Thought on May 06, 2013, 12:03:32 AM
Anyways, any thoughts on what could have happened, and by that I mean how Noonvale would have evolved (or didn't evolve) over the years?
Redwall Abbey stayed  pretty much the same through the series, so wouldn't Noonvale  stay the same as well?
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: Maudie on May 31, 2013, 03:19:43 AM
I'm  currently writing a fanfic 'bout Noonvale, but it's pretty disorganized and I don't know if I'll ever finish it ::)
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: Shadowed One on June 10, 2013, 12:07:06 PM
If you do, please show us!
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on June 11, 2013, 04:30:11 PM
Aye, it vould be intereztin' tae zee!
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: Mariel on June 15, 2013, 07:45:01 PM
Noonvale always makes me sad. Laterose came from there and so I always feel like all the characters from there will die. :( Sort of silly of me.
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: Shadowed One on June 22, 2013, 06:51:17 PM
I see what you mean.
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on June 24, 2013, 10:12:54 PM
I just wish that it appeared in more Redwall books. That probably the reason why all of the fan fictions that I have read so far have either creatures that live in Noonvale or if Noonvale appears physically.
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: General Ironbeak on December 24, 2013, 09:15:50 PM
Ah yes, Noonvale. I used to wish it would appear in future books, until someone I knew who'd read the books pointed out that it's location became a secret to everyone after Martin died.
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on December 25, 2013, 06:32:56 PM
I think that it would be interesting if Noonvale was re-visited when Martin was still alive...I actually read a Fan Fiction where he does that. Quite interesting, to say the least!
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: Gonff the Mousethief on December 25, 2013, 08:04:02 PM
I always wondered where noonvale was. is in the north or far east?
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: General Ironbeak on December 25, 2013, 08:20:35 PM
Far north. I had a map of the Redwall countries for reference :)
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on December 30, 2013, 09:01:38 PM
Quote from: General Ironbeak on December 25, 2013, 08:20:35 PM
Far north. I had a map of the Redwall countries for reference :)
Yea, I have one too. Your story checks out. ;D
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: TW on December 31, 2013, 04:58:41 PM
Ah, Noonvale. Something about it makes me want to live there even more than Redwall. Er, I would live there, as in the conditional tense, as in if it were possible.;) I really loved how it was animated in the show and I wish Chris Baker or Sean Rubin had done artwork of it at some point. Especially since there isn't any really great artwork from that book. Does Noonvale remind anyone else of Rivendell?
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: Gonff the Mousethief on December 31, 2013, 09:25:07 PM
YES. I thought of it just like Rivendell. just with moles and hedgehogs and mice and other animals ;D
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: Kitsune on January 03, 2014, 03:13:51 AM
Quote from: TW on December 31, 2013, 04:58:41 PM
Ah, Noonvale. Something about it makes me want to live there even more than Redwall. Er, I would live there, as in the conditional tense, as in if it were possible.;) I really loved how it was animated in the show and I wish Chris Baker or Sean Rubin had done artwork of it at some point. Especially since there isn't any really great artwork from that book. Does Noonvale remind anyone else of Rivendell?
DARN! You beat me to the LOTR reference!! :D (I'm an epic fan)

It reminds me more of Lorien, because both are more secret, both are closer to the woods (verses Rivendell's big, beautiful buildings and the big open space) and they both have a husband and wife who rule it.
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on January 04, 2014, 09:22:28 PM
@TW: Well, sort of. Just, its a little more "simple" than Rivendell.
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: Kitsune on January 06, 2014, 05:52:38 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 04, 2014, 09:22:28 PM
@TW: Well, sort of. Just, its a little more "simple" than Rivendell.
Yep. Just a little. ;D
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: The Skarzs on January 23, 2018, 05:11:02 AM
*Uses a defibrilator on the topic.*


So, Noonvale is a town with the spirit of Redwall. Both places are aware of each others' existence, as evident by the mousemaid whose grandsire was Brome of Noonvale, who came to visit Redwall and told Martin's story.
So why is it that after this, there is no mention of it, nor any effort to further communicate between the two settlements? (They don't even need a duck to fly over the ocean like in High Rhulain. . .) It seems to me like a lot could be done if they connected.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: SoranMBane on January 23, 2018, 01:25:34 PM
Well, they are quite far away from each other. Plus Noonvale doesn't have the luxury of Redwall's walls, so their only real defense is their secrecy. It seems reasonable then that Noonvale wouldn't want to reach out too much, and that Redwall would respect their wishes by not risking contact with them.
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: Cornflower MM on January 23, 2018, 04:33:40 PM
There's not really any mention of other places after their books. The island in High Rhulain, the islands in Triss or any other islands really. I've slwaysviewed it as  communication just withering over time.

Also, it was a goose, not a duck.
Title: Re: Noonvale
Post by: Ashleg on January 23, 2018, 06:52:57 PM
An isolated Abbey in the woods really has no need to communicate with anyone but its closest allies (Salamandastron, Guosim) for they can help defend it if it is attacked.