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Title: The Guosim
Post by: Redwall Musician on August 23, 2011, 03:30:52 AM
Guosim, ahhh, they are interesting. I noticed we didn't have a topic about them. And I wanted to talk about them.
So do any of you have a favorite Log-a-Log? I think my favorite would have to be the first Log-a-Log in Redwall.
Also, in Lord Brocktree they refer to Log-a-Log Grenn as a girl. Is she the only girl Log-a-Log?
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Shellhound on August 23, 2011, 07:05:26 PM
I really liked the Log-a-log in Marlfox.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Log-a-Log on August 23, 2011, 11:24:07 PM
My favorite Log-a-log is the one in both Redwall and Mattimeo. I also like the one from the Long Patrol too.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Janglur Swifteye on August 23, 2011, 11:49:42 PM
I liked Lohg-a-Log Grenn
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on August 24, 2011, 12:47:01 AM
Wot aboat Log-a-log Dandy Cloggz?
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Captain Tammo on August 24, 2011, 01:15:40 AM
I was never really a fan of the gousim. I always thought they were annoying, yet they were key to the success of the stories
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on August 24, 2011, 01:18:19 AM
Quote from: Captain Tammo on August 24, 2011, 01:15:40 AM
I was never really a fan of the gousim. I always thought they were annoying, yet they were key to the success of the stories

Aye, me neither. Juzt be glad they werenae pigmy zhrewz!
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Dotti on August 24, 2011, 01:56:18 AM
Log-a-log Dandy Cloggs was cool!  I also like the Log-a-log in Rakkety Tam. :)  I don't like how the Guosim talk in the tv shows, though.  They seem a lot more annoying on tv than in the books.  I also don't like that they have about 3 outfits, and all of them wear one of the three outfits. :P
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Lutra on August 24, 2011, 02:37:02 AM
I assume we're speaking of Guosim the group, not Guosim the character.

As a group, I didn't find them as particularly necessary.  I always felt with otters in the stories, you had the natural water-animals already present to handle water travel.  Yeah, I smile when I hear "Logalogalogalogalog!" but as a group, I don't see how the shrews as a group, were much different than the Long Patrol or any other group of Redwallers.  The sense of difference with Guosim law (the pebble thing) was lost after the first few books.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Excuse me sah! on August 24, 2011, 02:44:46 AM
All the Log-A-Log have been great in all the books! :)
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Tiria Wildlough on August 24, 2011, 09:17:41 AM
I like Log-a-log Grenn, and the Log-a-log in Marlfox. ;D
And, yeah, I think Grenn was the only female Log-a-log.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Coobreedan on August 24, 2011, 09:35:48 AM
I quite like Log-A-Log Big Club. It was really funny when he whacked that newt on the tail and it fell off!
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Tiria Wildlough on August 24, 2011, 10:17:02 AM
Yeh, that was amusing. ;D
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Coobreedan on August 24, 2011, 10:19:07 AM
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Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Redwall Musician on August 24, 2011, 01:29:19 PM
Me and my siblings have contest to see who can shout log-a-log the best. So we sound like:

"Logalogalogalog....."

I like the two little Guosim in the Sable Queen.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Matthias720 on August 24, 2011, 01:42:01 PM
My favorite Log-a-Log? I would have to say Log-a-Log Togey from Rakkety Tam is my favorite. He tried to be very serious and stoic, but he was just a big Dibbun at heart. :D
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Taggerung_of_Redwall on August 24, 2011, 03:04:44 PM
And he had awesome facial hair.
My favorite Log a Log would be either him or the Log a log from Redwall and Mattimeo.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Osu on August 26, 2011, 01:20:31 AM
I never had a favorite Log-a-Log, but I always preferred the guosim from the first Redwall book - like a soviet union type group. Hilarious and cute all at once! ;D
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Dotti on August 26, 2011, 02:17:36 AM
I like the Log-a-log (Togey, I think?) in Loamhedge who made Horty work really hard for insulting him.  Serves Horty right.  But it was great when Horty won the bragging contest with that other Guosim guy. :)
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: winifred on October 14, 2011, 05:51:31 AM
my favorite log a log is probly the one that saves the dibbun then dies and his son and the gousim start singing that bloody song at their foes in eulalia! And I think shrews are essential but their numbers die the most :'(
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Romsca on December 05, 2012, 06:28:09 PM
I thought there was already a topic for this
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Tam and Martin on December 05, 2012, 06:47:56 PM
Quote from: Matthias720 on August 24, 2011, 01:42:01 PM
My favorite Log-a-Log? I would have to say Log-a-Log Togey from Rakkety Tam is my favorite. He tried to be very serious and stoic, but he was just a big Dibbun at heart. :D
Really :o. I (Tam) didn't like him.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on March 15, 2013, 06:26:28 PM
Quote from: Redwall Musician on August 24, 2011, 01:29:19 PM
Me and my siblings have contest to see who can shout log-a-log the best. So we sound like:

"Logalogalogalog....."

So do we ;D! So far, I can say it the best.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Martin the warrior on March 15, 2013, 07:26:12 PM
my friends don't read redwall but they still will bare with me when we have contest like that.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on March 16, 2013, 09:17:04 PM
Quote from: Martin the warrior on March 15, 2013, 07:26:12 PM
my friends don't read redwall but they still will bare with me when we have contest like that.
Have you tried getting them to read Redwall? I bet they would like the books if they tried them out.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Gonff the Mousethief on January 12, 2014, 01:53:43 PM
me and my friend read them but my bro thinks its dumb :-[
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Kitsune on January 14, 2014, 03:37:32 PM
Quote from: Gonff the Mousethief on January 12, 2014, 01:53:43 PM
me and my friend read them but my bro thinks its dumb :-[
That's too bad. :-\
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Gonff the Mousethief on January 15, 2014, 12:23:11 AM
I know, one time he hid all of my books!
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: The Skarzs on January 15, 2014, 05:12:51 AM
I'm afraid I cannot sympathize; I'm bigger and stronger than my older brother, who doesn't like the books, and I'd mop the floor with him if he hid me books.

The Gousim have always seemed to me kind of annoying (more so in the animated show) and unneeded. Seems like Brian saw it as well, 'cause I don't remember any of the main, main characters who were shrews.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Tam and Martin on January 15, 2014, 08:06:13 PM
I hated the Guosim in the TV series! THEY WERE HORRIBLE! They were so unsympathetic to Mathias and Martin that it was.....just terrible!
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Iamthatis on January 15, 2014, 10:32:52 PM
Quote from: Shellhound on August 23, 2011, 07:05:26 PM
I really liked the Log-a-log in Marlfox.

That was a great Log-a-log he play a key part in that book.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: i am that is (Matthias) on January 16, 2014, 11:40:15 PM
I like the one in Mattimeo the best
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: WildDoogyPlumm on January 18, 2014, 02:23:26 PM
I really liked Log-a-Log Grenn and the Log-a-Log from Marlfox.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Shadefur nightblade on January 19, 2014, 01:30:48 AM
Which book was Log-a-Log Grenn in?
Has anyone ever wondered why some log-a-logs are just named Log-a-Log and others have a surname thing?
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Gonff the Mousethief on January 19, 2014, 03:27:09 AM
well the Log-A-Log is the chief. once that chief passes it to another shrew he becomes Log-A-Log
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: MeadowR on January 20, 2014, 02:57:53 PM
Guosim are given a distinct look which I like. Like in a few of the books there are characters that seem a bit unnecessary, like that mole that goes along with Dotti and Brock, so I don't think that the shrews are less needed than other characters. The way they are sets them apart some more, their attitudes aren't just one set type, from Doomwyte we know some can be particularly nasty. I have made a Guosim character even (see avatar!), so yeah, I feel enough that they have some value. :D
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Starla1431 on January 21, 2014, 03:44:53 AM
I've never been a fan of the Guosim. I find them kinda annoying and just like most of the hares they all pretty much have the same personality(well the Log-a-logs do). But, I haven't read all the books, so... But, if I have to chose a favorite Guosim shrew, it'll be Dippler from Marlfox.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Tam and Martin on January 21, 2014, 09:24:29 PM
Quote from: Shadefur nightblade on January 19, 2014, 01:30:48 AM
Which book was Log-a-Log Grenn in?
Has anyone ever wondered why some log-a-logs are just named Log-a-Log and others have a surname thing?
Grenn was from Lord Brocktree. I think she was the only Log-a-log who was female.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on January 22, 2014, 07:41:44 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 15, 2014, 08:06:13 PM
I hated the Guosim in the TV series! THEY WERE HORRIBLE! They were so unsympathetic to Mathias and Martin that it was.....just terrible!
They treated Matthias alright. And I'm not so sure the shrews in Martin The Warrior were even Gousim shrews.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Tam and Martin on January 22, 2014, 07:43:54 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 22, 2014, 07:41:44 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 15, 2014, 08:06:13 PM
I hated the Guosim in the TV series! THEY WERE HORRIBLE! They were so unsympathetic to Mathias and Martin that it was.....just terrible!
They treated Matthias alright. And I'm not so sure the shrews in Martin The Warrior were even Gousim shrews.
THEY TREATED MATHIAS TERRIBLY! As for the shrews in Martin the Warrior, in the movie they didn't say it but I'm pretty sure they did say in the book.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on January 22, 2014, 08:14:35 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 22, 2014, 07:43:54 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 22, 2014, 07:41:44 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 15, 2014, 08:06:13 PM
I hated the Guosim in the TV series! THEY WERE HORRIBLE! They were so unsympathetic to Mathias and Martin that it was.....just terrible!
They treated Matthias alright. And I'm not so sure the shrews in Martin The Warrior were even Gousim shrews.
THEY TREATED MATHIAS TERRIBLY!
Were? They treated him really good in Season 2. Can't remember anything much from Season 1. I'll have to re-watch it.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Tam and Martin on January 22, 2014, 08:15:47 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 22, 2014, 08:14:35 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 22, 2014, 07:43:54 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 22, 2014, 07:41:44 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 15, 2014, 08:06:13 PM
I hated the Guosim in the TV series! THEY WERE HORRIBLE! They were so unsympathetic to Mathias and Martin that it was.....just terrible!
They treated Matthias alright. And I'm not so sure the shrews in Martin The Warrior were even Gousim shrews.
THEY TREATED MATHIAS TERRIBLY!
Were? They treated him really good in Season 2. Can't remember anything much from Season 1. I'll have to re-watch it.
Oh. Season 2 they were great! Season one though, they were terrible.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on January 22, 2014, 08:17:05 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 22, 2014, 08:15:47 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 22, 2014, 08:14:35 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 22, 2014, 07:43:54 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 22, 2014, 07:41:44 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 15, 2014, 08:06:13 PM
I hated the Guosim in the TV series! THEY WERE HORRIBLE! They were so unsympathetic to Mathias and Martin that it was.....just terrible!
They treated Matthias alright. And I'm not so sure the shrews in Martin The Warrior were even Gousim shrews.
THEY TREATED MATHIAS TERRIBLY!
Were? They treated him really good in Season 2. Can't remember anything much from Season 1. I'll have to re-watch it.
Oh. Season 2 they were great! Season one though, they were terrible.
Well, they really didn't know Matthias that well in Season 1.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Tam and Martin on January 22, 2014, 08:17:34 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 22, 2014, 08:17:05 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 22, 2014, 08:15:47 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 22, 2014, 08:14:35 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 22, 2014, 07:43:54 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 22, 2014, 07:41:44 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 15, 2014, 08:06:13 PM
I hated the Guosim in the TV series! THEY WERE HORRIBLE! They were so unsympathetic to Mathias and Martin that it was.....just terrible!
They treated Matthias alright. And I'm not so sure the shrews in Martin The Warrior were even Gousim shrews.
THEY TREATED MATHIAS TERRIBLY!
Were? They treated him really good in Season 2. Can't remember anything much from Season 1. I'll have to re-watch it.
Oh. Season 2 they were great! Season one though, they were terrible.
Well, they really didn't know Matthias that well in Season 1.
True but they could have been at least a LITTLE kinder.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on January 22, 2014, 11:00:26 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 22, 2014, 08:17:34 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 22, 2014, 08:17:05 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 22, 2014, 08:15:47 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 22, 2014, 08:14:35 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 22, 2014, 07:43:54 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 22, 2014, 07:41:44 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 15, 2014, 08:06:13 PM
I hated the Guosim in the TV series! THEY WERE HORRIBLE! They were so unsympathetic to Mathias and Martin that it was.....just terrible!
They treated Matthias alright. And I'm not so sure the shrews in Martin The Warrior were even Gousim shrews.
THEY TREATED MATHIAS TERRIBLY!
Were? They treated him really good in Season 2. Can't remember anything much from Season 1. I'll have to re-watch it.
Oh. Season 2 they were great! Season one though, they were terrible.
Well, they really didn't know Matthias that well in Season 1.
True but they could have been at least a LITTLE kinder.
But it's probably just their nature.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Gonff the Mousethief on January 22, 2014, 11:01:27 PM
the shrews in Martin The Warrior were Pigmy shrews
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on January 22, 2014, 11:02:04 PM
Quote from: Gonff the Mousethief on January 22, 2014, 11:01:27 PM
the shrews in Martin The Warrior were Pigmy shrews
Ah, that's right. I do vaguely remember something about that now.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Gonff the Mousethief on January 24, 2014, 02:00:25 AM
they were the worst.Worst.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Tam and Martin on January 24, 2014, 03:43:22 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 22, 2014, 11:00:26 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 22, 2014, 08:17:34 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 22, 2014, 08:17:05 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 22, 2014, 08:15:47 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 22, 2014, 08:14:35 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 22, 2014, 07:43:54 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 22, 2014, 07:41:44 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 15, 2014, 08:06:13 PM
I hated the Guosim in the TV series! THEY WERE HORRIBLE! They were so unsympathetic to Mathias and Martin that it was.....just terrible!
They treated Matthias alright. And I'm not so sure the shrews in Martin The Warrior were even Gousim shrews.
THEY TREATED MATHIAS TERRIBLY!
Were? They treated him really good in Season 2. Can't remember anything much from Season 1. I'll have to re-watch it.
Oh. Season 2 they were great! Season one though, they were terrible.
Well, they really didn't know Matthias that well in Season 1.
True but they could have been at least a LITTLE kinder.
But it's probably just their nature.
Eh, Oh well.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: The Shade on January 24, 2014, 09:52:27 PM
Quote from: Gonff the Mousethief on January 24, 2014, 02:00:25 AM
they were the worst.Worst.
The younglings were, definitely.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on January 24, 2014, 10:46:03 PM
Quote from: The Shade on January 24, 2014, 09:52:27 PM
Quote from: Gonff the Mousethief on January 24, 2014, 02:00:25 AM
they were the worst.Worst.
The younglings were, definitely.
They were? I found them quite nice in the books...
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Gonff the Mousethief on January 25, 2014, 08:14:52 PM
the pigmy shrews
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Tam and Martin on January 25, 2014, 08:25:54 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 24, 2014, 10:46:03 PM
Quote from: The Shade on January 24, 2014, 09:52:27 PM
Quote from: Gonff the Mousethief on January 24, 2014, 02:00:25 AM
they were the worst.Worst.
The younglings were, definitely.
They were? I found them quite nice in the books...
I think they're talking the guosim shrews in Martin the Warrior.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on January 25, 2014, 08:48:51 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 25, 2014, 08:25:54 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 24, 2014, 10:46:03 PM
Quote from: The Shade on January 24, 2014, 09:52:27 PM
Quote from: Gonff the Mousethief on January 24, 2014, 02:00:25 AM
they were the worst.Worst.
The younglings were, definitely.
They were? I found them quite nice in the books...
I think they're talking the guosim shrews in Martin the Warrior.
They wern't that bad either.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Tam and Martin on January 25, 2014, 08:51:51 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 25, 2014, 08:48:51 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 25, 2014, 08:25:54 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 24, 2014, 10:46:03 PM
Quote from: The Shade on January 24, 2014, 09:52:27 PM
Quote from: Gonff the Mousethief on January 24, 2014, 02:00:25 AM
they were the worst.Worst.
The younglings were, definitely.
They were? I found them quite nice in the books...
I think they're talking the guosim shrews in Martin the Warrior.
They wern't that bad either.
WHAT!
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on January 25, 2014, 08:53:25 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 25, 2014, 08:51:51 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 25, 2014, 08:48:51 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 25, 2014, 08:25:54 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 24, 2014, 10:46:03 PM
Quote from: The Shade on January 24, 2014, 09:52:27 PM
Quote from: Gonff the Mousethief on January 24, 2014, 02:00:25 AM
they were the worst.Worst.
The younglings were, definitely.
They were? I found them quite nice in the books...
I think they're talking the guosim shrews in Martin the Warrior.
They wern't that bad either.
WHAT!
Er, yes?
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Tam and Martin on January 25, 2014, 08:55:24 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 25, 2014, 08:53:25 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 25, 2014, 08:51:51 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 25, 2014, 08:48:51 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 25, 2014, 08:25:54 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 24, 2014, 10:46:03 PM
Quote from: The Shade on January 24, 2014, 09:52:27 PM
Quote from: Gonff the Mousethief on January 24, 2014, 02:00:25 AM
they were the worst.Worst.
The younglings were, definitely.
They were? I found them quite nice in the books...
I think they're talking the guosim shrews in Martin the Warrior.
They wern't that bad either.
WHAT!
Er, yes?
Oh, well. everyone has different opinions I guess.  ;D
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on January 25, 2014, 08:56:59 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 25, 2014, 08:55:24 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 25, 2014, 08:53:25 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 25, 2014, 08:51:51 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 25, 2014, 08:48:51 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 25, 2014, 08:25:54 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 24, 2014, 10:46:03 PM
Quote from: The Shade on January 24, 2014, 09:52:27 PM
Quote from: Gonff the Mousethief on January 24, 2014, 02:00:25 AM
they were the worst.Worst.
The younglings were, definitely.
They were? I found them quite nice in the books...
I think they're talking the guosim shrews in Martin the Warrior.
They wern't that bad either.
WHAT!
Er, yes?
Oh, well. everyone has different opinions I guess.  ;D
Yep ;D
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: The Skarzs on January 28, 2014, 12:52:57 AM
Much quoting
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Gonff the Mousethief on January 28, 2014, 01:35:22 AM
Quote from: The Skarzs on January 28, 2014, 12:52:57 AM
Much quoting
ya ;)
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Tam and Martin on January 28, 2014, 02:08:10 AM
Quote from: Gonff the Mousethief on January 28, 2014, 01:35:22 AM
Quote from: The Skarzs on January 28, 2014, 12:52:57 AM
Much quoting
ya ;)
I can't help it  ;D
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on January 28, 2014, 04:02:03 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 28, 2014, 02:08:10 AM
Quote from: Gonff the Mousethief on January 28, 2014, 01:35:22 AM
Quote from: The Skarzs on January 28, 2014, 12:52:57 AM
Much quoting
ya ;)
I can't help it  ;D
Nor can I ;D
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Wylder Treejumper on February 27, 2014, 03:18:34 AM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on January 28, 2014, 04:02:03 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on January 28, 2014, 02:08:10 AM
Quote from: Gonff the Mousethief on January 28, 2014, 01:35:22 AM
Quote from: The Skarzs on January 28, 2014, 12:52:57 AM
Much quoting
ya ;)
I can't help it  ;D
Nor can I ;D
Quotequotequotequotequote!!!

I like the log-a-log from Rakkety Tam.
That's the way to settle things, with democratic and sensible debate.
Aye. It looked so democratic and sensible, I thought they were all going to knock each others heads off!

-Log-a-Log and Tam!
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: The Skarzs on September 24, 2015, 07:01:13 PM
So, I know people have been curious on the log boats that the Guosim use, and look what I found:
(http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~vaucher/History/Prehistoric_Craft/thumbs/Figure_122.jpg)
Logboat!
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: LT Sandpaw on September 24, 2015, 07:26:36 PM
I always saw The Guosim as Brian's subtle way of poking fun at America. With our democratic debates (Arguments) and policies that make no sense.

And even a American has to admit that its hilariously similar.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Wylder Treejumper on September 24, 2015, 07:39:27 PM
^^Well, that was beyond me.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Hickory on September 24, 2015, 08:00:54 PM
@Skarz: Uh, that may be how Brian first envisoined them but later on in the books they start getting described as proper boats, especially in Loamhedge. Just saying, it's still a nice photo.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: The Skarzs on September 25, 2015, 02:16:07 AM
*Grabs Sage by the shirt.* It'safreakinglogboatsodealwithit.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Wylder Treejumper on September 25, 2015, 07:32:41 PM
Hate to break it to you Skarzs, but "true" logboats don't have afts or prows.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: The Skarzs on September 25, 2015, 11:16:25 PM
You lot are impossible.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Eulaliaaa! on September 26, 2015, 12:57:00 AM
It also states multiple times that the logboats have seats in them. Well Skarzs, looks like this one won't work, you're gonna have to find another photo  ;D
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: rrrrr on September 26, 2015, 06:59:52 AM
How does that work? I tried drawing them.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: SoranMBane on September 26, 2015, 10:50:06 AM
Well, in Marlfox the Guosim actually replace their logboats with new boats:

Quote from: Dippler at the end of Marlfox[...] No more logboats fer us, we're goin' to build new vessels, light an' swift an' easy t' carry overland. [...]

Maybe before that they actually had true logboats, but afterwards they've actually been using regular boats, but just kept calling them "logboats" out of habit?
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Hickory on September 26, 2015, 03:18:29 PM
Quote from: Eulaliaaa! on September 26, 2015, 12:57:00 AM
It also states multiple times that the logboats have seats in them. Well Skarzs, looks like this one won't work, you're gonna have to find another photo  ;D
Not to be nitpicky, but those "seats" were just planks wedged in the hull.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Eulaliaaa! on September 26, 2015, 05:04:55 PM
I know that they were just planks, it's not like they were big, cozy chairs with armrests and cushions.  :P
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Wylder Treejumper on September 26, 2015, 07:39:52 PM
 ::)

What else would you use for a seat in a boat? A beanbag? ;D
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: rrrrr on September 26, 2015, 09:00:34 PM
Maybe they did do that somewhere later ;)
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Banya on October 28, 2015, 06:25:06 AM
The seats could have been made of webbed cane or a strong fabric and attached to the logboats after they were made, instead of being built into them.  The seats of two of my family's canoes are made of webbing.
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Tungro on July 31, 2019, 10:48:11 PM
I was only a fan of the Guosim in a few books. Other than that, I never really liked them for various reasons
Title: Re: The Guosim
Post by: Jack the Quick on July 31, 2019, 11:33:21 PM
I liked the shrews as shrews, not as Guosim. They seemed to sometimes get along well, other times endlessly arguing. Either way, they were inconsistent, and I didn't like that.