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Title: Character Namesakes?
Post by: Dotti Dillworthy on May 09, 2016, 06:04:38 PM
Let's talk about names and how they are used in some other way.

I just found out in Outcast of Redwall, maybe, there is a hare named Starbuck. Add an "S" at the end, and you've got the name of your favourite coffee house.
And even more funny for me: the term muggle used to describe non-magical folk of Hogwarts is used by somebeast (I can't even recall) from Marlfox!

Any other interesting namesakes?
Title: Re: Character Namesakes?
Post by: Ashleg on May 09, 2016, 09:55:44 PM
Since you're in to Harry Potter, this one:
There's a rat named Wormtail in the first book. Coincidence? I think not! XP
Title: Re: Character Namesakes?
Post by: Krowdon on August 29, 2016, 04:41:38 AM
Ahh well Redwall came out well before Harry Potter.

I am curious though, when was Muggle used in Marlfox?
Title: Re: Character Namesakes?
Post by: James Gryphon on August 29, 2016, 04:45:06 AM
Apparently Muggle was a minor character in the Troupe there. (http://redwall.wikia.com/wiki/Muggle)

Marlfox was published in '98, so the name might've been written there before Rowling's book came out. But in any case, Mr. Jacques is on record as saying that he avoided reading other people's books, to prevent any creative osmosis.
Title: Re: Character Namesakes?
Post by: Ashleg on August 29, 2016, 06:13:23 AM
Quote from: Ashleg on May 09, 2016, 09:55:44 PM
Since you're in to Harry Potter, this one:
There's a rat named Wormtail in the first book. Coincidence? I think not! XP
Dear love, don't hold this to me.
Title: Re: Character Namesakes?
Post by: The Skarzs on August 29, 2016, 02:21:07 PM
Quote from: James Gryphon on August 29, 2016, 04:45:06 AM
Apparently Muggle was a minor character in the Troupe there. (http://redwall.wikia.com/wiki/Muggle)

Marlfox was published in '98, so the name might've been written there before Rowling's book came out. But in any case, Mr. Jacques is on record as saying that he avoided reading other people's books, to prevent any creative osmosis.
I believe it's disclaimed in the front of his books that any names or places in his stories that are found other places are purely coincidental.
Title: Re: Character Namesakes?
Post by: Ashleg on August 29, 2016, 03:40:37 PM
Quote from: Skarzs on August 29, 2016, 02:21:07 PM
Quote from: James Gryphon on August 29, 2016, 04:45:06 AM
Apparently Muggle was a minor character in the Troupe there. (http://redwall.wikia.com/wiki/Muggle)

Marlfox was published in '98, so the name might've been written there before Rowling's book came out. But in any case, Mr. Jacques is on record as saying that he avoided reading other people's books, to prevent any creative osmosis.
I believe it's disclaimed in the front of his books that any names or places in his stories that are found other places are purely coincidental.

Isn't that in the beginning of every fictional book ever?
Title: Re: Character Namesakes?
Post by: Hickory on August 29, 2016, 05:43:30 PM
It's at the beginning of just about everything. Copyright issues.
Title: Re: Character Namesakes?
Post by: The Skarzs on August 30, 2016, 02:49:18 AM
Quote from: Ashleg on August 29, 2016, 03:40:37 PM
Quote from: Skarzs on August 29, 2016, 02:21:07 PM
Quote from: James Gryphon on August 29, 2016, 04:45:06 AM
Apparently Muggle was a minor character in the Troupe there. (http://redwall.wikia.com/wiki/Muggle)

Marlfox was published in '98, so the name might've been written there before Rowling's book came out. But in any case, Mr. Jacques is on record as saying that he avoided reading other people's books, to prevent any creative osmosis.
I believe it's disclaimed in the front of his books that any names or places in his stories that are found other places are purely coincidental.

Isn't that in the beginning of every fictional book ever?
Maybe. :P


But yeah, as James said, he didn't read other fiction because he didn't want it affecting his stories, and he liked to make up names.
I've actually made up names and words that turned out to already exist.
Title: Re: Character Namesakes?
Post by: Wylder Treejumper on September 02, 2016, 10:53:05 PM
True- it's easier than you think. I've made up scientific theories that turned out to be true ::)
Title: Re: Character Namesakes?
Post by: The Skarzs on September 03, 2016, 01:54:52 AM
What is it, "There is no new idea on this earth"?
Title: Re: Character Namesakes?
Post by: Delthion on September 03, 2016, 02:07:20 AM
Or "There's nothing new under the sun." ;D
Title: Re: Character Namesakes?
Post by: The Skarzs on September 03, 2016, 02:47:24 AM
That's the one.
Title: Re: Character Namesakes?
Post by: alexandre on September 04, 2016, 05:22:54 AM
Quote from: Dotti Lovegood on May 09, 2016, 06:04:38 PM
Let's talk about names and how they are used in some other way.

I just found out in Outcast of Redwall, maybe, there is a hare named Starbuck. Add an "S" at the end, and you've got the name of your favourite coffee house.
And even more funny for me: the term muggle used to describe non-magical folk of Hogwarts is used by somebeast (I can't even recall) from Marlfox!

Any other interesting namesakes?


Starbucks is someones favorite coffee house ?  :P :o O0 O0 O0

* also, favorite
Title: Re: Character Namesakes?
Post by: Delthion on September 04, 2016, 02:47:14 PM
And don't forget Starbuck in Battlestar Galactica! ;D (The original is best. ;D)
Title: Re: Character Namesakes?
Post by: clunylooney on April 22, 2020, 01:23:31 AM
Quote from: alexandre on September 04, 2016, 05:22:54 AM
Quote from: Dotti Lovegood on May 09, 2016, 06:04:38 PM
Let's talk about names and how they are used in some other way.

I just found out in Outcast of Redwall, maybe, there is a hare named Starbuck. Add an "S" at the end, and you've got the name of your favourite coffee house.
And even more funny for me: the term muggle used to describe non-magical folk of Hogwarts is used by somebeast (I can't even recall) from Marlfox!


Any other interesting namesakes?


Starbucks is someones favorite coffee house ?  :P :o O0 O0 O0

* also, favorite
Wow! A person who uses this,  O0 emoji.