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Brian Jacques' Works (Spoilers) => General Discussion => Topic started by: rrrrr on May 13, 2015, 03:50:16 AM

Title: Fishing
Post by: rrrrr on May 13, 2015, 03:50:16 AM
In High Rhulain, Skipper Banjon goes fishing for food for the hawk. However, he does it in a boat...but he's an otter, he can just swim down and grab the fish.

What do you think?
Title: Re: Fishing
Post by: Gonff the Mousethief on May 13, 2015, 05:25:21 AM
Well, I guess he has preferences. I mean, I can drink milk from the jug, but pouring it out is more civilized and better for others drinking the milk.
Title: Re: Fishing
Post by: Banya on May 13, 2015, 05:58:21 AM
This is such a simplified answer, but 1.) sometimes I just don't feel like getting wet, 2.) avid fishermen (and fisherbeasts) fish for recreation - it's the joy of the wait and the satisfaction of the catch, and 3.) as Gonff said, it's a way to display civilized behaviour.  If he wanted to, he could have used a javelin and speared the fish, but his choice to use line and hook is deliberate.
Title: Re: Fishing
Post by: The Skarzs on May 13, 2015, 06:04:00 PM
I imagine fishing with a line to be an older creature style of fishing, calm and relaxing, whereas diving and spearing would be for younger otters. Heh, it would be cool if they had tournaments like that.
Title: Re: Fishing
Post by: Hickory on May 13, 2015, 06:10:03 PM
The cogs of fanfiction are turning...
Title: Re: Fishing
Post by: rrrrr on May 14, 2015, 02:05:03 AM
Yeah that's true.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Fishing
Post by: The Skarzs on June 12, 2015, 05:04:08 PM
Since this topic has to do with fish, why aren't fish really sentient in the books? Of course, that was Mr. Jacques's decision, but lizards and birds are known to have talked; what's with fish?
Title: Re: Fishing
Post by: Izeroth on June 12, 2015, 06:12:09 PM
Quote from: The Skarzs on June 12, 2015, 05:04:08 PM
Since this topic has to do with fish, why aren't fish really sentient in the books? Of course, that was Mr. Jacques's decision, but lizards and birds are known to have talked; what's with fish?

A lot of the birds (such as wood pigeons) aren't sentient in the books; I imagine it's much the same way with fish. Also, don't you think having sentient fish would result in a bit of an... awkward situation for otters, who eat fish?
Title: Re: Fishing
Post by: rrrrr on June 12, 2015, 11:01:16 PM
As in Rakkety Tam where the hares get eaten.
Title: Re: Fishing
Post by: Hickory on June 15, 2015, 07:05:42 PM
... That's just because Gulo and his army were savages and cannibals.
Title: Re: Fishing
Post by: Faiyloe on June 17, 2015, 04:02:42 AM
Also Spearing and catching with your paws would damage the fish more than just hooking it. If you want the thing to look nice.
Title: Re: Fishing
Post by: Izeroth on June 17, 2015, 04:58:25 AM
Quote from: Faiyloe on June 17, 2015, 04:02:42 AM
Also Spearing and catching with your paws would damage the fish more than just hooking it. If you want the thing to look nice.

Since when did otters ever care about how their food looked?
Title: Re: Fishing
Post by: Banya on June 17, 2015, 09:57:15 AM
Depending on the size of the fish, spearing might damage much of the meat of the fish. 

Side-note: this otter likes it when her food looks nice. ;)