Have you ever noticed that in almost every book, there's a different abbot or abbess?
That is because there is enough time in between each book that the abbot or abbess changes.
Yes, it's one of those things that comes with a new book, I'm thinkin'. Which was your favorite? I liked the guy from Eulalia if only because he came up the wallsteps at one point with his habit held like a skirt. ;D
I don't really have a favorite abbot but I do think there quite interesting.
Well there has to be time in-between warlords and their conquests, otherwise they'd just kill each other instead of going after redwall.
Quote from: Captain Tammo on July 07, 2011, 09:39:40 PM
Well there has to be time in-between warlords and their conquests, otherwise they'd just kill each other instead of going after redwall.
That would be interesting; to have two vermin armies going against each other. Of course there would have to be a threat to good beasts somewhere in there.
Quote from: Nature Lover on July 10, 2011, 08:35:09 PM
Quote from: Captain Tammo on July 07, 2011, 09:39:40 PM
Well there has to be time in-between warlords and their conquests, otherwise they'd just kill each other instead of going after redwall.
That would be interesting; to have two vermin armies going against each other. Of course there would have to be a threat to good beasts somewhere in there.
It happens in Redwall quite often. Ie...
Greypatch's crew vs Garrtail's crew.
Badrang's horde and Clogg's crew (not sure if there was a real battle but there might have been).
Swartt's horde vs Krakulat's crows. (not vermin vs vermin but crows are always villains so although Krakulat was technically not a villain he was of a villain species)
Ublaz's trident rats and monitors vs Rasconza's wave brethren.
Gulo and horde vs crows (again not technically vermin but certainly villains).
Quote from: daskar666 on July 12, 2011, 08:18:29 PM
Quote from: Nature Lover on July 10, 2011, 08:35:09 PM
Quote from: Captain Tammo on July 07, 2011, 09:39:40 PM
Well there has to be time in-between warlords and their conquests, otherwise they'd just kill each other instead of going after redwall.
That would be interesting; to have two vermin armies going against each other. Of course there would have to be a threat to good beasts somewhere in there.
It happens in Redwall quite often. Ie...
Greypatch's crew vs Garrtail's crew.
Badrang's horde and Clogg's crew (not sure if there was a real battle but there might have been).
Swartt's horde vs Krakulat's crows. (not vermin vs vermin but crows are always villains so although Krakulat was technically not a villain he was of a villain species)
Ublaz's trident rats and monitors vs Rasconza's wave brethren.
Gulo and horde vs crows (again not technically vermin but certainly villains).
Don't forget Badrang and Cap'n Cloggs. They were really foes.
But none of them reached redwall right?
Quote from: Captain Tammo on July 12, 2011, 09:04:40 PM
But none of them reached redwall right?
All of them were indirectly related to the protagonists. If Greypatch and Garrtail didn't fight, for example, it would be likely that Redwall would be under attack by TWO searat crews or it would never have been attacked at all if Garrtail captured Greypatch.
Tensions between Badrang and Clogg both weakened and strengthened Badrang. On a related note, where did the boats Martin and co. used to get away from Marshank come from?
Krakulat's crows greatly diminished Swartt's horde. If he had greater numbers and then went on the path which led to Redwall he might have defeated all those otters and squirrels and posed a real threat to the abbey.
Ublaz and Rasconza's constant war greatly diminished both characters' threat to the protagonists.
And the entire part with the crows and Gulo was strategically orchestrated by the protagonists to weaken Gulo's horde.
Quote from: daskar666 on July 12, 2011, 08:18:29 PM
Quote from: Nature Lover on July 10, 2011, 08:35:09 PM
Quote from: Captain Tammo on July 07, 2011, 09:39:40 PM
Well there has to be time in-between warlords and their conquests, otherwise they'd just kill each other instead of going after redwall.
That would be interesting; to have two vermin armies going against each other. Of course there would have to be a threat to good beasts somewhere in there.
It happens in Redwall quite often. Ie...
Greypatch's crew vs Garrtail's crew.
Badrang's horde and Clogg's crew (not sure if there was a real battle but there might have been).
Swartt's horde vs Krakulat's crows. (not vermin vs vermin but crows are always villains so although Krakulat was technically not a villain he was of a villain species)
Ublaz's trident rats and monitors vs Rasconza's wave brethren.
Gulo and horde vs crows (again not technically vermin but certainly villains).
Yes, I guess that did happen but I don't remember an all out fight (except for with the crows) of one army against the other usually only the leaders had an actually fight. Usually one leader got killed and all his/her band joined the winners band.
Anyways we are completely off subject.
Greypatch and Garrtail definitely fought with their crews.
What book is that in? I'm trying to remember...
Quote from: Nature Lover on July 13, 2011, 05:26:21 PM
What book is that in? I'm trying to remember...
Mariel of Redwall
I think I remember something about that... I'll have to read the book again.
Back on track, I always liked Abbot Saxtus. We saw him when he was still young first, and then we saw him transition into the Abbot of Redwall Abbey. We meet most of the other Abbots or Abbesses when they're already the serene creatures we expect to hold the position, so it was nice to follow his progress.
Yes, I did like the fact that we say him as both young and old.
I think this happened with another abbess too. Was it Triss who we got to see before she became abbess?
Quote from: Captain Tammo on July 07, 2011, 09:39:40 PM
Well there has to be time in-between warlords and their conquests, otherwise they'd just kill each other instead of going after redwall.
Ha ha Well said!!
Quote from: Nature Lover on July 14, 2011, 01:29:54 PM
Yes, I did like the fact that we say him as both young and old.
I think this happened with another abbess too. Was it Triss who we got to see before she became abbess?
There was Tansy! We saw her before she was abbess.
Abbot Daucus is now my favorite abbot, mainly because he actually did something while being abbot.
Quote from: Redwall Musician on July 14, 2011, 04:48:53 PM
Quote from: Nature Lover on July 14, 2011, 01:29:54 PM
Yes, I did like the fact that we say him as both young and old.
I think this happened with another abbess too. Was it Triss who we got to see before she became abbess?
There was Tansy! We saw her before she was abbess.
Oh, yah I meant Tansy.
Quote from: Redwall Musician on July 12, 2011, 08:27:05 PM
Quote from: daskar666 on July 12, 2011, 08:18:29 PM
Quote from: Nature Lover on July 10, 2011, 08:35:09 PM
Quote from: Captain Tammo on July 07, 2011, 09:39:40 PM
Well there has to be time in-between warlords and their conquests, otherwise they'd just kill each other instead of going after redwall.
That would be interesting; to have two vermin armies going against each other. Of course there would have to be a threat to good beasts somewhere in there.
It happens in Redwall quite often. Ie...
Greypatch's crew vs Garrtail's crew.
Badrang's horde and Clogg's crew (not sure if there was a real battle but there might have been).
Swartt's horde vs Krakulat's crows. (not vermin vs vermin but crows are always villains so although Krakulat was technically not a villain he was of a villain species)
Ublaz's trident rats and monitors vs Rasconza's wave brethren.
Gulo and horde vs crows (again not technically vermin but certainly villains).
Don't forget Badrang and Cap'n Cloggs. They were really foes.
Also The brownrats vs Vizka Longtooth's bunch
Quote from: daskar666 on July 14, 2011, 06:46:32 PM
Abbot Daucus is now my favorite abbot, mainly because he actually did something while being abbot.
Yes, I liked how he whipped his sling out of his sleeve with a ouch of pebbles. ;)
I really like Abbot Carrul. He was funny. It was like a teenager abbot. I especially liked it when he sang the "Voyage of the Leakylea" or whatever it was called. So funny! :D
Actually, there are quite a number of Abbots and Abbeses that we get to see before they achieve their elevated positions. Most notably, there is Mhera in Taggarung, but there's also Fenna in Loamhedge and several others.
I liked Abbot Saxtus too
I love Abbess Lycian. She was so young, yet so wise. :)
Also, I like Abbot Daucus. He would have to be my favourite Abbot. ;D
I still love Abbot Carrul. My second favorite is Abbess Mhera. Have you ever noticed how there has never been a mole or a vole as abbot or abbess? I know that a hare would be too irresponsible, unless it was Martha Braebuck.
Hmmm. I like Mhera, and Tansy as far as abbesses go. I also like abbot Saxtus.
Quote from: martins#1fan on July 07, 2011, 01:21:35 PM
Have you ever noticed that in almost every book, there's a different abbot or abbess?
what about tansy in pearls then long patrol then marlfox?
Tansy was in 3 books?(scratches head)
Quote from: Plugg Firetail on October 10, 2011, 11:28:31 PM
Tansy was in 3 books?(scratches head)
I think she was only mentioned in
Marlfox.
Quote from: daskar666 on July 14, 2011, 06:46:32 PM
Abbot Daucus is now my favorite abbot, mainly because he actually did something while being abbot.
What book is he from???
I really like Abbot Humble. And Saxtus is cool. I think Lycian is one of my favorite abbyses too! Besides having a pretty name, I love how she has tea with Burbee every day and wacked that vermin over the head with her teapot! :D
Abbot Daucus was from Eulalia!. ;) And I like Abbess Lycian as well. She is really nice. :)
Quote from: daskar666 on July 12, 2011, 08:18:29 PM
Quote from: Nature Lover on July 10, 2011, 08:35:09 PM
Quote from: Captain Tammo on July 07, 2011, 09:39:40 PM
Well there has to be time in-between warlords and their conquests, otherwise they'd just kill each other instead of going after redwall.
That would be interesting; to have two vermin armies going against each other. Of course there would have to be a threat to good beasts somewhere in there.
It happens in Redwall quite often. Ie...
Greypatch's crew vs Garrtail's crew.
Badrang's horde and Clogg's crew (not sure if there was a real battle but there might have been).
Swartt's horde vs Krakulat's crows. (not vermin vs vermin but crows are always villains so although Krakulat was technically not a villain he was of a villain species)
Ublaz's trident rats and monitors vs Rasconza's wave brethren.
Gulo and horde vs crows (again not technically vermin but certainly villains).
What about in Marlfox, that fat rat and his horde against the Marlfoxes and their horde?
in the bok after pearls of lutra the abbot was there for like three books
my favorite abbot was abbot durral
Durral and Daucas. Durral was nice to Romsca and in Eulalia, Daucas got out a sling and fought.
yeah I forgot about Daucus he's cool too