@Flor ,
@Ashes How do ya'll want to do these? Anything specific or unique that's come to mind? I would like to do very story driven battles, with lots of substance; focused less on the separate moves and more on the characters interactions.
I personally want to do a duel of wits with one of you, and maybe a more standard fight with the other. ;)
(Thank heaven for Mentions.)
A duel of wits sounds fun, but I've never been very good at coming up with witty comebacks. So, if Ash doesn't mind, perhaps you and I can do a more standard battle?
Comebacks are perfect.
Yiss yiss. ;D
@Flor ,
@Ashes Alright cool,
So Flor, any character you want to see fight in particular? I know you like to use squirrel characters, maybe we could do a friendly bout between two squirrels from our RPs, or the original books. Do you remember Martin's fight with the Gawtrybe leader? We could something like that. But I'm open for suggestions.
Ashes we could do this, lots of clever come backs and fiendish tricks, maybe where the characters are competing some sort of brain challenge. Where the one with the better intellect lives and the lesser one dies. I was wanting to use Slagar but there are a lots of cool characters to potentially use. This of course would be a shorter duel, but we're not being judged by length.
One thing I thought was worth noting is that your duel doesn't even have to happen at one time. If you wanted the 'duel of wits', it could be split into several separate scenes, over the course of some time, like with Ublaz and Rasconza in Pearls of Lutra. You could also use characters in addition to your main ones, as flunkies or to fill it out.
Slagar vs.... Vilu, maybe?
@James
Good to know.
SO.
Sorry I was waiting for Flor to respond.
But yeah, Vilu would be fine. I was thinking more along the lines of Lantur, or Ublaz, maybe I could use one of them while you use Vilu... So many good choices...
Now as for what we're going to do.
So going off what James said we could have them competing in a fight of assassinations attempts, or just a raw game of wits. Each one trying to outsmart the other in some way to get the upper paw. This'll be a little more difficult to plan, but lets start with the basics.
Where should this take place? I was thinking we could have them both on an island with their own personal guards, and they could be trying to take control. Maybe our characters were visiting some powerful vermin lord at the same time, who conveniently dies and they're both trying to use the opportunity to expand their personal empires.
What do you think?
I think that's great!!
And Ublaz vs. Vilu would be cool. ;D
Awesome. The Pine Marten Corsair Emperor of Samperta versus the Stoat Pirate King of the High Seas. Both struggling to gain the advantage over the other, using any means necessary. Poison, assassination, trickery and vicious backstabbing diplomacy.
What should be the rules?
By the way Ublaz has his trident rats, lizards, and magic eyes. While Vilu commands the most dangerous dreadnaught on the ocean. Should we be able to utilize these advantages? Since its not going to be a battle, per say, but they may still have an impact.
@Flor Have you thought about any of the suggestions I've listed above?
Yes yes, they have everything, Let me PM ye.
I was thinking they should arrive, go inside, and then as they're waiting in the audience chamber they receive the news that Corsair King Foulder, a great wildcat pirate, has just died in his sleep, and move on from there.
You wanna make the thread? ;D
*Wails* My Mentions didn't tell me!
Anyway. I was thinking of using Arya? Is that okay, Sand?
@Peony, yeah that's fine. Arya is an OC you've used several times in RPs before right? Maybe I could dig up one of my old characters named Kasta Longeye and use him. Or maybe I could use Bracklew...
Anyway what should this duel be about. Would you rather it be a training session, or an actual fight? I do want it to take place in a squirrel tree village, like what the Ewoks in Star Wars have. If its going to be a squirrel duel they've got to be doing aerobatics through the treetops. ;)
@Ashleg Sure, I'll make the thread and first post.
Several times is an understatement. :P
I like the idea of a training session, with some fancy tumbling thrown in. And I was thinking about James' idea of it not happening all at once. It could be a small short duel, then a rematch (And rematch and rematch. :P) Thoughts?
That could certainly work. I'm certainly down with doing several rematches, but how would you want to do them? We could have one character win, and then skip to the next bout, or RP a bit in-between and return to the next bout for the loser to try again.
@James Gryphon Do we post the duel on the duel board, or in the Tournament Board? I suppose you can move it if you need to, but for now I'll be following Sage's example.
Tourney board.
Quote from: LT Sandpaw on October 08, 2016, 04:00:29 PM
That could certainly work. I'm certainly down with doing several rematches, but how would you want to do them? We could have one character win, and then skip to the next bout, or RP a bit in-between and return to the next bout for the loser to try again.
*Shrugs* Perhaps RP a bit in between?
@LT Sandpaw: Looks great so far. Barranca's a stoat, though, not a fox.
Are you sure? I could have sworn he was a fox.
Rasconza was the fox. Barranca (http://redwall.wikia.com/wiki/Barranca) was Conva's (another stoat) brother.
(http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/redwall/images/1/12/Barranca.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/200?cb=20051025015148)
Ah, well good spot.
I'll go edit that.
One more thing: I might reconsider the designation of Sagitar as his "right paw"; if memory serves me, Ublaz referred to Lask by a title not dissimilar to that in the book, and he (as Monitor General) certainly seemed like a more feared and valued asset than the chief trident rat.
Can't wait to start this, Sand, but I'll reply when I have energy.
Was up 'till three last night watching movies with friends.
Cool, take your time Ashes, I certainly did. ;)
@James Gryphon So just to confirm, are you going to take over for Peony, and if so does that mean I get an automatic win?
Quote from: LT Sandpaw on October 23, 2016, 11:47:52 PM
@James Gryphon So just to confirm, are you going to take over for Peony, and if so does that mean I get an automatic win?
On who takes Pny's place, quite possibly. I'd like to ask someone if they'd like to take her place in the tourney, but the most likely answer to that is no, and in that event I'll likely take over her immediate duels (although I'm thinking about asking a few prominent RPers if they'd like to do one duel here or there, in the stead of the people who dropped out; not as much work as a full-time tourney player, but enough to be a little involved).
As far as "wins", that's not how I imagined the scoring working. Your scores are independent of each other's play and the outcomes of the duels.
Finally, I hate to sound like a broken record, but this is something that'd bug me if it stuck around (and something I'd probably grade on), so I do want to emphasize the importance of Lask and Sagitar's relative ranks.
Quote from: Pearls of Lutra, chapters 2 and 3Lask Frildur the Monitor General stood before the Emperor, flat reptilian eyes unblinking, scales making a dry rustle as his heavy spiked tail swished lazily against the marble floor. Ublaz nodded approvingly. The Monitor General had never let him down; everybeast on Sampetra knew and feared the reputation of Lask Frildur.
"Does all go well with you, my strong right claw?" Ublaz said, as he poured wine for them both.
...
Sagitar Sawfang was bigger than most searats, lean and sinewy with a mean disposition. She was second only to Lask Frildur, the Monitor General.
Besides Lask's unrivaled power and reputation, I think Ublaz would especially appreciate him for his absolute loyalty, something which the corsairs and other wave vermin are much more loathe to give.
Quote from: James Gryphon on October 24, 2016, 03:19:15 AM
Finally, I hate to sound like a broken record, but this is something that'd bug me if it stuck around (and something I'd probably grade on), so I do want to emphasize the importance of Lask and Sagitar's relative ranks.
Ok, ok, if its that big of a deal I'll change it. It just made more sense at the time due to reasons. :-\ And then I didn't want to bother changing it because I was to lazy to fix the paragraph. :P
One nitpicky detail: according to the intro, Ublaz didn't style himself as Mad Eyes; that's just what he was called out of earshot: "though none ever called him that to his face and lived".
There's also one minor typo, where it was "Bowfly" instead of "Blowfly".
That said, though, things look great so far!
Was going to comment on the first thing but I see you beat me to it!
Though I do think that you should be lenient on typos lest it becomes consistent. Autocorrect can be a real rat sometimes. :P
Hey, seeing as how I've already taken Corn's duel with Tammleo, can I just take her place for the rest of the thing?
@James Gryphon@LT Sandpaw
Absolutely, if you want to. You'd be doing me a big favor. I was actually going to ask you if you had the time and if you'd mind doing so, but somehow our schedules never meshed.
My schedules actually free-ish now, aside from a couple exams, so I can actually participate now.
So, Snadpwa. Shall we plan what we're gonna do for this?
SNADPWA!!!
If ya'll can't tell I haven't read the book in some time. :P
Quote from: Groddil on October 27, 2016, 04:56:58 AM
My schedules actually free-ish now, aside from a couple exams, so I can actually participate now.
So, Snadpwa. Shall we plan what we're gonna do for this?
Sure, do you have any plans or suggestions that you'd like to make or see happen?
'S alright, that's what the wikia's there for. ;D
I have the book for reference, but if you don't just do the best you can, mate.
Not really. Maybe we could use one of the other ideas you and Ash had...?
Well, we didn't really have much planned other then what we're doing.
I suppose we could do one of James' suggestions, I like Greeneyes vs Barkstripe one myself.
Or maybe one of my ideas like Denya vs Gloomer or Orlando the Axe vs Dramz.
I've also been itching to write a story about Lantur for some time now, maybe I could use her and you select a character yourself from the series.
Honestly the options are pretty limitless. Heck we could even do a eating competition between two hares, like Dotti and Bucko's first competition.
Just take your pick. ;)
Quote from: LT Sandpaw on October 29, 2016, 10:02:57 PM
Well, we didn't really have much planned other then what we're doing.
I suppose we could do one of James' suggestions, I like Greeneyes vs Barkstripe one myself. Could be a good idea. If we did that one, I want Verdauga.
Or maybe one of my ideas like Denya vs Gloomer or Orlando the Axe vs Dramz.
I've also been itching to write a story about Lantur for some time now, maybe I could use her and you select a character yourself from the series. Maybe Mokkan v Lantur? Not as much a physical duel as a mental one, if you get my drift.
Honestly the options are pretty limitless. Heck we could even do a eating competition between two hares, like Dotti and Bucko's first competition.
Just take your pick. ;)
Yeah I could role with that. Should it been when they are younger, or should it coincide with the timeline in the book?
Younger gives you more flexibility and room for writing in the other Marlfoxes if you want. Book time period would be quicker.
So how about these duels. ;)
@LT Sandpaw
@Groddil I need some input man. I know everyone is busy, I know I am at least. We'll just take the duel real slow. I just need something from you. :)
@Ashleg Sorry, I posted in our duel.
Thanks, man!
They gonna go at it? It doesn't seem that Ublaz is likely to back down from that kind of a challenge, and with his scarf gone, and being a good duelist himself, I'd think he'd believe he has good odds.
They aren't (personally) going to go at it until the end.
We planned the whole thing out.
Their followers, however...
/me shrugs.
@LT Sandpaw: Hey, the original plan sounds good, but what're we gonna do it about? I haven't read Marlfox in ages, so I'm kinda short on ideas.
We could do something simple, like sibling rivalry when the foxes are in their teens. Or we could have them duel in line with the book.
Like instead of Mokkan pushing Lantur off the cliff, Lantur manages to avoid that particular assassination and they instead try to off each other in different ways.
I like the second option. Maybe we could have them try a few simple tricks to get rid of the other, then ultimately just resort to brute force at the end. Or maybe one of the plans could succeed.
Seems good, the brute force in the end when the other attempts don't work sounds fun. We could have them try a few things, and then have them do a short battle of sorts. It'd be kinda cool seeing Marlfoxes using their natural skills of stealth and trickery to try and gain the upper paw.
Do you want to start it?
Nah, you do it. I don't know how. :p
Okay, I shall.
Any preferred names?
Also do you want Mokkan to win, or Lantur?
Quote from: LT Sandpaw on November 14, 2016, 11:00:41 PM
Okay, I shall.
Any preferred names? Nope.
Also do you want Mokkan to win, or Lantur? Doesn't bother me. If we want to be semi-canon, Mokkan. If we don't care about canon connections, which we probably don't, it doesn't matter.
"Shut up ingrate" is my favorite quote so far.
@Ashleg You could use the horde vermin, as they technically are under Vilu's command.
Quote from: Sagetip on November 15, 2016, 09:43:46 PM
"Shut up ingrate" is my favorite quote so far.
For context, or you just like the line in general? ;D
It's funny, represents the character, and is just great coming from Ublaz's mouth and directed towards Sagitar.
I'm hoping that the Monitors will rock. :)
Yes but it would be more fun not to roleplay with myself. ;)
James is on team Ublaz.
Ok.
Everyone is on team Ublaz. 8)
Quote from: Sagetip on November 16, 2016, 01:48:13 AM
It's funny, represents the character, and is just great coming from Ublaz's mouth and directed towards Sagitar.
Well thanks, its always nice to get a compliment.
@LT Sandpaw Can Vilu kill the rat?
Yeah.
Is Vilu not going to interrogate him?
Whupdeediddle.
...
Sure.
He'll interrogate him.
You know what, do you want to control one of Ublaz's creatures, like Bowfly, or an OC?
@Groddil Hey let me know when your exams are done, and I'll start our duel.
Oh yes, let me just skim through my book to find somebeast good!
Also, it's Goreleech, not Gorleech.
Ya know mister....
Anyway, have you decided yet?
Sorry!
I'll get on it!
Are the guards going to respond to Ublaz?
ayaaaaaayyyyee I'm so sorry, yes.
Just give me a minute
Exam week is over. Let's get started.
Excellent, I'll start working on it right away.
Ublaz can apparently hypnotize even from a distance, so be sure that Vilu is on the lookout for that (if you don't want him to die leaping off of a wall ;) ).
Vilu doesn't know yet; but we have this planned, so don't you worry.
Ublaz has too see the target's eyes, and vice versa right? So the sun is shining right towards Ublaz semi-blinding him, problemo solved. ;)
The sun.
OH LT POST IN BOTH THREADS I'M TOO HYPED
Ok. Just give me a minute to think. :P
Think tock here's the clock.
much sorry
Guja was the steersrat of Freebooter, so he would have served under Barranca and Rasconza, respectively. He was never known for his loyalty to Ublaz.
There's a list of non-Sagitar trident-rats here: http://redwall.wikia.com/wiki/Ublaz%27s_Corsairs
The only trouble is that these are the ones that Ublaz appointed to captains and gave to Rasconza. It's safe to guess they're loyal, but that's it: "Do you think I gave you valuable fighters to captain these ships? Like Orlug, whom you slew, those five are worthless fools."
Some other options you have: You could make up a name and personality for a new trident-rat commander, or, if you want to stick with known characters, you could simply let Ublaz or Lask lead them directly.
Guja is just going to be used so that I'm not RPing by myself when Ublaz and Vilu aren't together.
That, and the events of the books haven't happened yet.
So technically Guja is still with Ublaz, loyalty out of the picture.
Out of curiosity, where's the other ships in Ublaz's fleet? It's mentioned he has three at this time, but only Freebooter's in the picture right now.
Well I didn't want Ublaz being overpowered with three full crews, so I just left the other two out. Story wise they're out looting and raiding, and would meet up with Ublaz at some later date at a preset location.
Sup...
Vilu Daskar? Guja's one of Ublaz's pirates.
HAAAAAH
Look how rusty I am. Hoo boy.