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Title: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: The Skarzs on February 04, 2014, 11:32:22 PM
Seriously, this never happened. There were more creatures than just badgers with the Bloodwrath, so what would happen if two such creatures fought?
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Tam and Martin on February 05, 2014, 01:56:39 AM
That would be....bad....
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: The Skarzs on February 05, 2014, 02:20:29 AM
I know, right? While it never happened in the books, it would have been sure to have happened. I think they would both end up dying.
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Tam and Martin on February 05, 2014, 01:25:19 PM
That would be a great fan fic for someone to do. Maybe, per say, two badgers meet head to head?
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: MeadowR on February 05, 2014, 03:25:14 PM
It would get rather gory! A bit too much so for my liking! Brian was sparing us the 'horror'. :D
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on February 05, 2014, 03:59:00 PM
That would be, like, the most bloodiest, gory-est, hardest, most intense Redwall universe duel ever! Though, I think it would have been intresting to see something like this happen in some Redwall book.
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: rachel25 on February 05, 2014, 05:10:08 PM
I agree with Ungatt.
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Rusvul on February 05, 2014, 07:06:50 PM
Two words. Mutual suicide.
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on February 05, 2014, 07:09:20 PM
Quote from: rusvulthesaber on February 05, 2014, 07:06:50 PM
Two words. Mutual suicide.
Yup!
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: The Skarzs on February 05, 2014, 07:12:07 PM
Someone start writing ;D
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on February 05, 2014, 07:19:45 PM
I wonder, can any type of vermin get the bloodwrath? Just think, for example, a Wildcat with the bloodwrath fighting a badger with the bloodwrath. Very possible....
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: The Skarzs on February 05, 2014, 07:36:48 PM
Death all around! Give these creatures a generous round of death! Care to have some death? Do you like death on your toast, or in your tea? I would like to propose a toast to death!
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Tam and Martin on February 05, 2014, 07:49:21 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on February 05, 2014, 07:19:45 PM
I wonder, can any type of vermin get the bloodwrath? Just think, for example, a Wildcat with the bloodwrath fighting a badger with the bloodwrath. Very possible....
Possible. BTW, did Razzid Wearet have Bloodwrath? Anyone remember?
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: The Skarzs on February 05, 2014, 09:02:42 PM
No, I'm afraid I don't remember. Haven't read the Rouge Crew in a while.
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Tam and Martin on February 05, 2014, 09:21:20 PM
Quote from: The Skarzs on February 05, 2014, 09:02:42 PM
No, I'm afraid I don't remember. Haven't read the Rouge Crew in a while.
Neither have I.
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on February 06, 2014, 06:41:05 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on February 05, 2014, 07:49:21 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on February 05, 2014, 07:19:45 PM
I wonder, can any type of vermin get the bloodwrath? Just think, for example, a Wildcat with the bloodwrath fighting a badger with the bloodwrath. Very possible....
Possible. BTW, did Razzid Wearet have Bloodwrath? Anyone remember?
Of what I remember, Razzid didn't get the bloodwrath.
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Tam and Martin on February 06, 2014, 08:06:04 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on February 06, 2014, 06:41:05 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on February 05, 2014, 07:49:21 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on February 05, 2014, 07:19:45 PM
I wonder, can any type of vermin get the bloodwrath? Just think, for example, a Wildcat with the bloodwrath fighting a badger with the bloodwrath. Very possible....
Possible. BTW, did Razzid Wearet have Bloodwrath? Anyone remember?
Of what I remember, Razzid didn't get the bloodwrath.
Alright. I didn't think so but I didn't know.
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Norham Waterpaw on February 07, 2014, 12:37:48 AM
Nah, he didn't. But it would make sense to have a wearat or Wolverine get the bloodwrath. (Considering only brawny and buff animals get it)
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Blaggut on February 07, 2014, 12:41:35 AM
Badger vs badger duel, anyone? ;D
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Iamthatis on February 07, 2014, 02:38:43 PM
Wow just thinking about something like that happening makes my head just wanna explode. That would a all out war til the death.
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: The Shade on February 07, 2014, 09:03:56 PM
Come to think of it, did any bad guys get the bloodwrath? I don't believe so, which seems a shame.
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: The Skarzs on February 07, 2014, 09:17:32 PM
I know; t'would be epic.
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Tam and Martin on February 07, 2014, 11:43:32 PM
Quote from: The Shade on February 07, 2014, 09:03:56 PM
Come to think of it, did any bad guys get the bloodwrath? I don't believe so, which seems a shame.
I don't seem to recall any villain getting it.
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Lutra on February 08, 2014, 01:52:20 AM
They both bleed to death is all I can honestly think of when you look at how the bloodrath is described.  Both will fight to the end, and essentially their bodies will expire before the will to defeat the other does. ;)
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on February 08, 2014, 08:34:18 PM
Is it possible that one could triumph over the other?
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Tam and Martin on February 08, 2014, 10:23:52 PM
Not likely. Since both of them would continue fighting on and on, one would eventually kill the other but the one who live would probably die of wounds.
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on February 08, 2014, 11:49:18 PM
Ah can imagine zomebeazt'z arm gettin' ripped off in ze ztruggle...

(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/zn82OJKrzzs/0.jpg)
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: The Skarzs on February 09, 2014, 05:12:38 AM
That is one of the most hilarious skits done by Monty Python :D (Not recommended for those younger than 10 or older) Personally, my favorite is the parrot skit.

It is possible (in fact, probable) that they would both die, but whether before the battle is really over or at around the same time, would have to be seen :P
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Wylder Treejumper on February 27, 2014, 03:10:44 AM
Slaughter. Complete, utter, absolute slaughter. They would literally batter each other to pieces.
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Lady Amber on March 14, 2014, 01:21:11 AM
Aye!
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Norham Waterpaw on March 18, 2014, 02:12:00 AM
I would feel bad for the bystanders. The collision of those two beasts would blow most off their feet.

Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Jetthebinturong on March 23, 2014, 03:09:35 PM
In the words of the Ultimate Showdown, it would be "The bloodiest battle that the world ever saw with billions looking on in total awe"  :P
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: 321tumbler on March 24, 2014, 09:24:40 PM
What's the ultimate showdown?
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Jetthebinturong on March 24, 2014, 09:28:01 PM
A song, I used to listen to it a lot as a kid and, as such, the lyrics are burnt into my brain
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Lady Amber on March 24, 2014, 11:38:01 PM
Quote from: Norham Waterpaw on March 18, 2014, 02:12:00 AM
I would feel bad for the bystanders. The collision of those two beasts would blow most off their feet.


Yeah, imagine if you were somebeast standing there watching! :o
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: The Skarzs on March 25, 2014, 03:34:34 AM
Quote from: Jetthebinturong on March 24, 2014, 09:28:01 PM
A song, I used to listen to it a lot as a kid and, as such, the lyrics are burnt into my brain
. . . Chuck Norris. . .
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Jetthebinturong on March 25, 2014, 08:11:00 AM
Got killed by a bunch of people including both iterations of Gandalf and the Black Knight from Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Romsca on March 25, 2014, 12:08:20 PM
This would probably happen if two badgers both thought they were supposed to be the badger lord of Salamandastron
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: The Skarzs on March 25, 2014, 03:35:21 PM
Or if there were a wildcat or wolverine with the bloodwrath.
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Krantor the Brutal on October 14, 2017, 12:09:21 AM
Quote from: Romsca on March 25, 2014, 12:08:20 PM
This would probably happen if two badgers both thought they were supposed to be the badger lord of Salamandastron
That would be an interesting RP...
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Sanddunes on October 14, 2017, 01:18:03 AM
I wander for along time why only woodlanders have the Bloodwrath (at first it was just badgers)
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Krantor the Brutal on October 14, 2017, 01:33:54 AM
Axtel Sturnclaw (a mole) had Bloodwrath
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Sanddunes on October 14, 2017, 08:57:40 AM
Quote from: Krantor the Brutal on October 14, 2017, 01:33:54 AM
Axtel Sturnclaw (a mole) had Bloodwrath

What I'm saying is at first it was just badgers that had it then other creatures had the bloodwrath throughout the series
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: The Skarzs on October 14, 2017, 07:03:23 PM
Quote from: Sanddunes on October 14, 2017, 01:18:03 AM
I wander for along time why only woodlanders have the Bloodwrath (at first it was just badgers)
It would be interesting for vermin to have it. Indeed, like in the case of the wolverines and their viking-likeness, it would seem like a berzerker rage would be fitting.
The only thing against this is that it is not in vermin's character to fight so recklessly. Their selfishness would not allow them to go into bloodwrath for any reason other than to prove themselves the best.
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Ashleg on October 14, 2017, 08:32:52 PM
Plus, plot.

Bloodwrath is meant to be unstoppable and vermin aren't allowed to be unstoppable or else the Woodlanders would lose.
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Unimaginative on October 16, 2017, 03:05:40 AM
Quote from: Krantor the Brutal on October 14, 2017, 12:09:21 AM
Quote from: Romsca on March 25, 2014, 12:08:20 PM
This would probably happen if two badgers both thought they were supposed to be the badger lord of Salamandastron
That would be an interesting RP...

Honestly, I love the idea of a civil war for Salamandastron in a Role-play.

I'll make it if you don't!  ;D
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Krantor the Brutal on October 16, 2017, 12:29:54 PM
Quote from: Unimaginative on October 16, 2017, 03:05:40 AM
Quote from: Krantor the Brutal on October 14, 2017, 12:09:21 AM
Quote from: Romsca on March 25, 2014, 12:08:20 PM
This would probably happen if two badgers both thought they were supposed to be the badger lord of Salamandastron
That would be an interesting RP...

Honestly, I love the idea of a civil war for Salamandastron in a Role-play.

I'll make it if you don't!  ;D
Aye, it does. I'll GM Blood and Vinegar;  you  GM Salamandastron: Civil War, what do you say?
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Unimaginative on October 16, 2017, 05:55:38 PM
Quote from: Krantor the Brutal on October 16, 2017, 12:29:54 PM
Quote from: Unimaginative on October 16, 2017, 03:05:40 AM
Quote from: Krantor the Brutal on October 14, 2017, 12:09:21 AM
Quote from: Romsca on March 25, 2014, 12:08:20 PM
This would probably happen if two badgers both thought they were supposed to be the badger lord of Salamandastron
That would be an interesting RP...

Honestly, I love the idea of a civil war for Salamandastron in a Role-play.

I'll make it if you don't!  ;D
Aye, it does. I'll GM Blood and Vinegar;  you  GM Salamandastron: Civil War, what do you say?

Sounds like a plan! I'll have everything posted by the end of the day.
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: The Skarzs on October 16, 2017, 05:56:46 PM
OooOOOOoohhhh.
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Sanddunes on October 18, 2017, 08:30:39 AM
Quote from: Ashleg on October 14, 2017, 08:32:52 PM
Plus, plot.

Bloodwrath is meant to be unstoppable and vermin aren't allowed to be unstoppable or else the Woodlanders would lose.

Have the good guys beat large number of enemies is cool an all but after awhile it gets kind of old.
If vermin did have the bloodwrath the woodlanders would have to think of ways to beat them which to me would be more interesting
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Ashleg on October 18, 2017, 01:13:14 PM
Never said I didn't want to see it--Brian didn't want to do it.
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Krantor the Brutal on October 18, 2017, 04:11:56 PM
Bloodwrath is simply just killing all in ones path. The vermin do that already...
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Ashleg on October 18, 2017, 11:23:49 PM
Quote from: Krantor the Brutal on October 18, 2017, 04:11:56 PM
Bloodwrath is mindlessly and uncontrollably killing all in one's path.
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Krantor the Brutal on October 19, 2017, 04:12:24 AM
Alright.
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Ashleg on October 19, 2017, 04:55:49 AM
Well, it's true. Vermin that are good fighters are still in tune to the world around them, whereas a creature suffering from the Bloodwrath will kill anybeast that gets in his oath, be they friend or foe, and will recklessly endanger his own life until he completes his task.
Sort of like a bloody, violent sleepwalker.
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Krantor the Brutal on October 19, 2017, 10:10:03 AM
Has a badger ever kil an ally? Don't remember.
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: The Skarzs on October 19, 2017, 02:05:20 PM
It was never said exactly, but it was written like he didn't care who he killed.
Title: Re: What would Happen if Two Beasts of the Bloodwrath went Head on Head?
Post by: Ashleg on October 19, 2017, 02:30:38 PM
Exactly.