Redwall Abbey

This is the thread of the HP fandom.  I grew up reading both Redwall and Harry Potter, and both hold a special place in my heart.  I'm a proud Hufflepuff.

According to the sorting quiz I just took, I am a Hufflepuff as well. ^_^ I have only watched the first movie, but I like it a lot.

I'm glad you liked it.  It just feels like childhood.  You can see how the styles of the films change as time passes.  You haven't yet read the books, Kit?

No, I am afraid I have not found the time to yet. I do want to, though.

Check this out (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_ubmjE21SY), Potterheads.

Proud Ravenclaw here!

Isn't it funny how different Albus Dumbledore's reaction is during the GoF movie? In the original book he is said to be reacting calmly, but during the movie, he is sort of freaking out like he's going to shut Harry's lights out!

"HARRY! DIDYA PUT YA NAME IN DA GOBLET OF FIYAH??!!"

I'm a Hufflepuff as well! ;D

Ah, I used to be obsessed with these books!

When two of my current fandoms collide:

I'm a Slytherin and I'm proud!
*and I'm surrounded by Hufflepuffs :'0 *

Ravenclaw here

Ha no Gryffindors

*Raises hand*

Every test I've taken I've been sorted in Gryffindor.

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When two of my current fandoms collide:

That's a strange order. And I'm not sure how one assigns themesongs to someone with only one piece of characterisation and/or very little screentime (Pansy Parkinson, Crabbe, Goyle, Dean, Seamus, Parvati and Padma, Zabini, Lavender, Romilda Vane, the Founders).

Eurovision is not a fandom, it's a competitive event. Being in the "Eurovision fandom" is like being in the "Reading Festival fandom." (For anyone who doesn't know, Reading Festival is a music festival in Reading.)

I'm a self-diagnosed Slytherin and I've never taken a test.

Quote from: Jet the binturong on March 18, 2016, 09:57:30 PM
I'm a self-diagnosed Slytherin and I've never taken a test.

Hoorah!
Except I've taken multiple tests. :P
But still...

*high fives*

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Quote from: Jet the binturong on March 18, 2016, 09:57:30 PM
I'm a self-diagnosed Slytherin and I've never taken a test.

Hoorah!
Except I've taken multiple tests. :P
But still...

*high fives*

I took the tests as well. I kind of expected the answer...

Spoiler

Slytherin

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Quote from: Jet the binturong on March 18, 2016, 09:57:30 PM
I'm a self-diagnosed Slytherin and I've never taken a test.

Hoorah!
Except I've taken multiple tests. :P
But still...

*high fives*

I took the tests as well. I kind of expected the answer...

Spoiler

Slytherin

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WELL, BESTIES MUST STICK TOGETHER!! ;D 8) ;)

  I'm a Ravenclaw...

heh

(http://orig08.deviantart.net/fe66/f/2016/067/d/6/me___ravenclaw_student_by_rainshadow_chan-d9uf8ee.jpg)

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O-O
...Cool picture.

Quote from: Kitsunére Lunaura on December 10, 2015, 03:06:12 AM
According to the sorting quiz I just took, I am a Hufflepuff as well. ^_^ I have only watched the first movie, but I like it a lot.

Well, this was proven wrong today. :P According to the official Pottermore Sorting Hat quiz, I'm a Slytherin.

I got Gryffindor with Ravenclaw in second place. DARN IT I WANTED HUFFLPUFF OR SLYTHERIN. Although, when I first read Harry Potter it was the sole desire of my heart to be in Gryffindor...

I think I'd probably be a Hufflepuff or a Ravenclaw. Certainly not Gryffindor, I'm the cautious sort.

As stated before, I'm hardly surprised at my result.

/me eats a kitten.

I just found out that there's a new Harry Potter book coming out soon.

Technically not. Harry Potter and the Cursed Child is a novelisation of the play that's going to happen at some point. I think it follows one of Harry's kids, but I can't remember which, if any.

Quote from: Jet the binturong on March 25, 2016, 10:15:00 PM
I think it follows one of Harry's kids, but I can't remember which, if any.

Actually it's his second son, Albus.

Still, though.

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Quote from: Kitsunére Lunaura on December 10, 2015, 03:06:12 AM
According to the sorting quiz I just took, I am a Hufflepuff as well. ^_^ I have only watched the first movie, but I like it a lot.

Well, this was proven wrong today. :P According to the official Pottermore Sorting Hat quiz, I'm a Slytherin.

You just took the quiz?  Is the original Pottermore still up somewhere?

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Quote from: Kitsunére Lunaura on December 10, 2015, 03:06:12 AM
According to the sorting quiz I just took, I am a Hufflepuff as well. ^_^ I have only watched the first movie, but I like it a lot.

Well, this was proven wrong today. :P According to the official Pottermore Sorting Hat quiz, I'm a Slytherin.

They got rid of Pottermore?! D:
You just took the quiz?  Is the original Pottermore still up somewhere?

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Quote from: Kitsunére Lunaura on December 10, 2015, 03:06:12 AM
According to the sorting quiz I just took, I am a Hufflepuff as well. ^_^ I have only watched the first movie, but I like it a lot.

Well, this was proven wrong today. :P According to the official Pottermore Sorting Hat quiz, I'm a Slytherin.

You just took the quiz?  Is the original Pottermore still up somewhere?

I'm pretty sure. I made an account and everything.

I'm either Gryffindor or Ravenclaw, depending on the source.

  If you want to take the official quiz without having to make an account, someone took all the possible questions from the Pottermore sorting quiz and put them all right here. (http://www.gotoquiz.com/pottermore_sorting_quiz_all_possible_question)  The scoring is a bit weird, in that you can be 80% something, 60% something, 40% something, and 30% something, but it's a legitimate quiz that's really nice and easy if you don't want to have to make a Pottermore account.

Yeah, that one says I'm strongly Gryffindor, but most others I've taken say Ravenclaw

  I say you go with Ravenclaw, then.  Join the smart side; we have cookies.  ;D

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Quote from: Kitsunére Lunaura on December 10, 2015, 03:06:12 AM
According to the sorting quiz I just took, I am a Hufflepuff as well. ^_^ I have only watched the first movie, but I like it a lot.

Well, this was proven wrong today. :P According to the official Pottermore Sorting Hat quiz, I'm a Slytherin.

You just took the quiz?  Is the original Pottermore still up somewhere?

I'm pretty sure. I made an account and everything.

Ah, got it.  So the original Pottermore is gone.  What's up is a new format with a lot of the old stuff.  I resented the fact that I couldn't log in with my old account, but when I made a new account, I could look up my original account and reclaim my house and wand without having to take the quizzes again.  However, the interactive story is gone.  It's lost its... fun.

Hufflepuff, then Slytherin.

A local cheese TV ad from 2003 with trying-hard HP references (including the Wingardium Leviosa spell on cheese bits):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMEkI8mn90k&feature=youtu.be&list=PLyVEgWjtxEg5e6-pK2SNjdpJJbmbj9NNR (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMEkI8mn90k&feature=youtu.be&list=PLyVEgWjtxEg5e6-pK2SNjdpJJbmbj9NNR)
Nice try, Magnolia, but those costumes look more like stereotypical wizards than Hogwarts ones.

Strange. XD

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Quote from: Kitsunére Lunaura on December 10, 2015, 03:06:12 AM
According to the sorting quiz I just took, I am a Hufflepuff as well. ^_^ I have only watched the first movie, but I like it a lot.

Well, this was proven wrong today. :P According to the official Pottermore Sorting Hat quiz, I'm a Slytherin.

You just took the quiz?  Is the original Pottermore still up somewhere?

I'm pretty sure. I made an account and everything.

Ah, got it.  So the original Pottermore is gone.  What's up is a new format with a lot of the old stuff.  I resented the fact that I couldn't log in with my old account, but when I made a new account, I could look up my original account and reclaim my house and wand without having to take the quizzes again.  However, the interactive story is gone.  It's lost its... fun.

Wait, I thought that they took away role played altogether?

I gotta get back on.

@Sagetip yes, the roleplay, unfortunately, seems to be gone.  I wish there'd been some sort of warning or they hadn't taken it away altogether.

I'm a Hufflepuff if anyone wanted to know ;)  Does anyone else think there should be a Witch Harry Potter House Are You? Poll in this Thread?

I tied between Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw on the quiz.

This is odd to me, as I always figured I like Gryffindor the most.

On a side note, did anyone else find Snape's memories in the last movie, to be really sad?

Quote from: Fatch of Southsward on June 17, 2016, 02:53:58 PM
On a side note, did anyone else find Snape's memories in the last movie, to be really sad?

Snape was my favorite character, and they were extremely sad. ?_?

Poll added. :) I'm also a Hufflepuff! The new Pottermore put me in Gryffindor, so I retrieved my old Pottermore account from before the update to stay in Hufflepuff.

Snape is a wonderfully complex character. I love the story of his past with Lily. I also love the antagonistic relationship he shares with Harry and Ron throughout the books.

I'm Hufflepuff.... and we're winning the house cup!

Your Result: HUFFLEPUFF! 78%

62%
SLYTHERIN!

50%
GRYFFINDOR!

50%
RAVENCLAW

Hmmmmm......I guess I'm averagely average and fit into all houses. Also highfive Banya!

*highfives Leatho*

I have been so obsessed with Harry Potter for the past 2-3 years, that when ever I read the books again I just know it so well, I can almost predict what they are going to say next every time ;D I took the real Pottermore quiz, but I think I rushed it a bit, because I got HufflePuff as my house, when I have always gotten Ravenclaw on every other quiz I have taken :P

I just took the one Rain posted, and I got

RAVENCLAW 81%

HUFFLEPUFF 72%

GRYFFINDOR 33%

SLYTHRIN 15%

These answers make sense with everything else I know about these things, and I think it is pretty accurate.

:( RIP Snape.

I find it very interesting that none of us get Gryffindor! Are we perhaps, not the boldest of groups? Pure coincidence? Theories?

Glad to hear I'm not the only one intrigued by Snape's part in the story. Snape will be missed, but even more so, Alan Rickman.

Apparently I was wrong, and I am not a Slytherin but a Ravenclaw. In fact, I had Gryffindor in second place and Slytherin in third.

I don't know what to think.

I think I still consider myself a Slytherin.

(yeah jet my pottermore quiz put me in hufflepuff but i still consider myself a ravenclaw. dont tell anyone tho its a secret.)

Quote from: Aimless Gallivanter on June 20, 2016, 04:09:06 PM
(yeah jet my pottermore quiz put me in hufflepuff but i still consider myself a ravenclaw. dont tell anyone tho its a secret.)

You're a Hufflepuffle XD

(no shoosh im ravenclaw)

Now my results are Gryffindor, Slytherin, Huffelpuff, Ravenclaw.

I'm a proud Gryffindor ;D

Yay! More variety! Before none of us were Gryffindors!

I think some might appreciate this? Im pretty sure I censored it all the way
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I think one of the reasons the Harry Potter Epilogue was so poorly received was because the audience was primarily made up of the Millennial generation.

We've walked with Harry, Ron and Hermione, through a world that we thought was great but slowly revealed itself to be the opposite. We unpeeled the layers of corruption within the government, we saw cruelty against minorities grow in the past decades, and had media attack us and had teachers tell us that we 'must not tell lies'. We got angry and frustrated and, like Harry, Ron and Hermione, had to think of a way to fight back. And them winning? That would have been enough to give us hope and leave us satisfied.

But instead. There was skip scene. And suddenly they were all over 30 and happy with their 2.5 children.

And the Millennials were left flailing in the dust.

Because while we recognised and empathised with everything up to that point. But seeing the Golden Trio financially stable and content and married? That was not something our generation could recognise. Because we have no idea if we're ever going to be able to reach that stage. Not with the world we're living in right now.

Having Harry, Ron and Hermione stare off into the distance after the battle and wonder about what the future might be would have stuck with us. [...],have them move into a [bad] flat together and try and sort out their lives would have. Have them with screaming nightmares and failed relationships and trying to get jobs in a society that's falling apart would have. Have them still trying to fix things in that society would have. Because we known Voldemort was just a symptom of the disease of prejudice the Wizarding World.

But don't push us off with an 'all was well'. In a world about magic, JK Rowling finally broke our suspension of disbelief by having them all hit middle-class and middle-age contentment and expecting a fanbase of teenagers to accept it.

Also. Since when was 'don't worry kids, you're going to turn out just like your parents' ever a happy ending? Does our generation even recognise marriage and money and jobs as the fulfillment of life anymore? Does our generation even recognise the Epilogue's Golden Trio anymore?
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#i think this one of the reasons why the james/lily/albus naming theme bothered me #because there's a sense of going in a circle rather than pressing forward #the only way the wizarding world will survive if it changes dramatically from this point #having the station seem exactly the same #right down to the names being thrown around #makes it seem stagnant #so i'm guessing another dark lord should turn up in a couple of decades (x)





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Seriously.

Harry and crew at Hogwarts in what is technically their eighth year, studying for their NEWTs and trying to fit back into a life they've half outgrown, the teachers never bothering to treat them like students under their authority anymore and half the other students going to them for Defense Against the Dark Arts lessons.

Harry shoving money at people, hey, you were a muggleborn who lost your wand to the Muggleborn Registration Committee? here have enough to buy your wand back and some more besides, you need to get your house back, how much do you need? starting a business, here have some start-up cash. injured in the final battle? take this money and get trained for a new line of work that doesn't require legs. bitten by a werewolf? here's money to buy potion. and he just keeps handing it out without paying any attention to it and there keeps being money there, and how is it okay that he has so much while others have to buy secondhand books and use secondhand wands?

Harry wanting to burn Grimmauld Place to the ground, and Harry wanting to donate Grimmauld Place as a home for people with bad family situations and people whose family have died and don't want to be alone, and Harry never wanting to see Grimmauld Place again.

Harry wanting to snap at Molly's mothering, at Molly's being after him to cut his hair, at Molly's invitations to him to come stay at the Burrow. Harry knowing she's probably going to be his mother-in-law and knowing she's lost a son and settling for pointing out that Aunt Petunia always hated his hair too, which shuts her up.

Harry and Draco walking on eggshells around each other. Harry making a few overtures of reconciliation and being rebuffed. Harry finally saying, well, be [that way] then, and Draco snapping and slamming him into the wall, Muggle-style, and ranting for five minutes straight on how much it sucks to have believed in someone and been betrayed, to have lost, to have been saved by the person who defeated his side of the war, to have his dad in Azkaban and to have been handed Dumbledore's life on a silver platter and been unable to take it, to have trusted Severus Snape and find out he was working for the other side and the war is over and Harry's so covered in glory while Draco will never escape the stigma of having been a Death Eater when he wasn't even a good Death Eater.

Harry looking at him and saying, yeah, that sucks, that's [mess]ed up. Saying, he watched Dumbledore die, watched his godfather die, lost Fred lost Mad-Eye lost Remus and Tonks, watched Cedric die because he was being too noble to take the Triwizard Cup for himself even though Cedric tried to insist. Saying war is [mess]ed up, war [messes] you up, shatters everything and you're left with fragments that cut you open when you try to pick them up.

Draco telling Harry he's dating Astoria, who doesn't believe in blood supremacy. Harry telling Draco that if he likes Astoria, he should date Astoria, and he can give his kids magic and love and he doesn't need to give them a position at the top of the social hierarchy to be a good father to them. Harry telling Draco that when he was faking being dead, Draco's mother lied to Voldemort for him because he told her Draco was alive.

Harry taking part and giving evidence in the trials of captured Death Eaters and snatchers and others. Harry offering Lucius a plea bargain that will let him go home. Harry telling Lucius he understands people don't like being in debt to their enemies, and if Lucius wants to hate him, that's fine, but Harry thinks Lucius ought to go home and be with his family. Lucius saying nothing, but going home, and when Christmas break ends Draco comes back to school looking human for the first time in two and a half years.

School ending, and the whole double class of students sort of milling, cast adrift into an adulthood they're not quite prepared for and at the same time are too familiar with. Half the flats above Diagon Alley being rented out by students in small groups and pairings who have no idea how to keep house; Diagon Alley getting an unofficial expansion as the Muggle flats nearby get rented to more of the same, with back doors leading to alleyways that lead to back ways into Diagon.

Some of the abandoned businesses in Diagon Alley getting opened by former Hogwarts students who don't quite know what they want to do; a few of them importing Muggle concepts with a touch of magic: a store that's a different Muggle fast-food restaurant every day of the month, a store that brings in Muggle items, Muggle music, Muggle technology. An internet cafe that serves butterbeer and Mountain Dew, cauldron cakes and Cheetos, side by side.

Knockturn Alley getting cleaned out by a new Ministry crackdown on the Dark Arts, and being taken over by those who feel shattered or tainted by the war. Stores trickle in to replace the old places, and shrines to the departed line the storefronts, here a fountain placed in memory, here a quote graffiti'd on the wall, here a mural, there a pile of flowers and trinkets. It's a quiet place, contemplative; somehow the bustle of Diagon never touches it. Wildflowers grow through the cobblestones, and generations of future witches and wizards will grow up thinking "Nocturnally" refers to the twilight of the passage between worlds.

Hermione and Ron clashing over Ron's expectations growing up with a mother who did everything for him and expecting a wife who'll do the same. Hermione moving in with George and Angelina above the joke shop. (Angelina loved Fred, and is halfway in love with George; they are united in their missing of Fred. Hermione is growing to love George, who under his pranks and devil-may-care attitude is quite clever and inquisitive. The three of them make a decent vee, and Angelina can go travel with her international Quidditch team without worrying about George being neglected.)

Ron rebounding with Pansy Parkinson, of all people, who's rebounding from Draco; their relationship being first built on a temporary cure for loneliness and rejection and an indulgence of spite at their respective exes, and then surprising them by continuing to work well once all that has faded.

Ollivander taking Cho Chang as an apprentice wandmaker. Susan Bones and Hannah Abbot undertaking the work to turn Grimmauld Place into Phoenix House, a home for abused, orphaned, and neglected magical children, squibs, homeless or familyless witches and wizards, and convalescents from St. Mungo's.

Ginny's first child is a daughter, with Harry's black hair and green eyes; she indulges Harry by naming her Sev, like the boy Harry's mother once played with when the world was new and full of wonder. It's short for Severa, which is Latin in the old wizarding tradition, and it reminds Harry of Evans and of ever, which has about the same meaning as Always.

Draco and Astoria end up having five kids, and Draco scandalizes his younger self by loving every aspect of fatherhood times five. Daphne Greengrass, Astoria's sister, ends up marrying Percy Weasley, which means Draco's kids have Weasley cousins. Family get-togethers are very interesting, but somehow Narcissa and Lucius survive.

My heart.

I retook the quiz, and I'm actually a Ravenclaw by a long shot. I guess I changed over the years!

Quote from: Skyblade on July 24, 2016, 04:19:33 PM
I retook the quiz, and I'm actually a Ravenclaw by a long shot. I guess I changed over the years!

Ah, a fellow Ravenclaw!

If you've read the 7th book, you're supposed to answer a question to get into the common room.

Do you think you would be able to answer the questions? I don't think I would be able to.

These are the questions from the book:

Question: "Which came first, the phoenix, or the flame?"

Question: "Where do Vanished objects go?"

I'm Hufflepuff, and Here are my test results :D

79% Hufflepuff,

64% Ravenclaw,

45% Gryffindor

17% Slytherin :)

I don't know, but guess what I'm going to Google?

Oh my goodness, Galli, I love that post so, so much. It hits so many notes, and it feels real reading about the Hogwarts kids I grew up with being almost exactly where I am in life, too.

I prefer the timeless shenanigans of 3-5 year. All this gritty reality...

Have you muggles read the new Harry Potter book, I hear that it is not so good  :-\

I think that it's important to note that Harry Potter and the Cursed Child is not a book, it is a script for a play. They are two entirely different mediums with different requirements and execution.

That being said, what I've heard about it is either
A) Ravings of fans saying it was awesome.
B) Ravings of fans saying it was terrible.
C) Objective reviews saying it was alright.
or D) Objective reviews saying it was just bad.

If we are to discount the ravings of fans, it would appear that Cursed Child is nothing special, and may in fact be sub-par.

It's also worth baring in mind that I don't think Harry Potter itself is especially good.

Quote from: Jet the binturong on August 16, 2016, 05:26:30 PM
I think that it's important to note that Harry Potter and the Cursed Child is not a book, it is a script for a play. They are two entirely different mediums with different requirements and execution.

That being said, what I've heard about it is either
A) Ravings of fans saying it was awesome.
B) Ravings of fans saying it was terrible.
C) Objective reviews saying it was alright.
or D) Objective reviews saying it was just bad.

If we are to discount the ravings of fans, it would appear that Cursed Child is nothing special, and may in fact be sub-par.

It's also worth baring in mind that I don't think Harry Potter itself is especially good.

??? ??? ??? really? you don't think Harry Potter is especially good? Why? It was my favorite book until I read Redwall.

Harry and his friends are extremely overpowered in my opinion, and that's why I, personally, don't like it. Plus, such a formula. Jet likely has different reasons, but those are mine. I'll pick up a HP book now and then, but around halfway through it gets annoying.

My one glaring problem with the series is Voldemort.

He's a really boring villain.

His motivation is literally just that his muggle father abandoned his mother and that turned him completely irredeemably evil. He's fun to watch to see what awesome magic he pulls, but he's literally just pure evil incarnate, with lackluster motivation and very little character. He's a fairytale villain, which are fine in fairytales, but for an in depth series, you need something more interesting.

J. K. Rowling's writing style is also not particularly impressive, and the books themselves were incredibly formulaic.

Her world is quite interesting, but we don't get to see enough of it.

Plus the only characters I really cared about were Hagrid, Hermione, Dobby, Molly, Remus and Sirius. I really couldn't care less about any of the other characters and that's a bit of a problem, considering Harry isn't on that list.

I also have some major problems with the fandom, and specifically how they treat Snape and Dumbledore like good but misunderstood people, when both of them were terrible. (But that's a fandom issue, not a JKR issue).

I got the new book from the library...slowly making my way through it (it's called too much crafting and DVDs  :P )

Quote from: Jet the binturong on August 16, 2016, 05:45:25 PM
My one glaring problem with the series is Voldemort.

He's a really boring villain.

His motivation is literally just that his muggle father abandoned his mother and that turned him completely irredeemably evil. He's fun to watch to see what awesome magic he pulls, but he's literally just pure evil incarnate, with lackluster motivation and very little character. He's a fairytale villain, which are fine in fairytales, but for an in depth series, you need something more interesting.

J. K. Rowling's writing style is also not particularly impressive, and the books themselves were incredibly formulaic.

Her world is quite interesting, but we don't get to see enough of it.

Plus the only characters I really cared about were Hagrid, Hermione, Dobby, Molly, Remus and Sirius. I really couldn't care less about any of the other characters and that's a bit of a problem, considering Harry isn't on that list.

I also have some major problems with the fandom, and specifically how they treat Snape and Dumbledore like good but misunderstood people, when both of them were terrible. (But that's a fandom issue, not a JKR issue).

How were they terrible??
I thought they were great?

Snape: Bullied Neville so much that he became his worst fear (and bear in mind, Neville's parents were tortured into insanity). Was the wizarding equivalent of a Nazi and only stopped because Voldemort killed the girl he creepily obsessed over for years even after he'd mocked her, called her a mudblood and generally been horrible to her. Took his frustrations with James out on Harry, an eleven year-old boy who could barely even remember his dad.

Dumbledore: Wizarding equivalent of a Nazi until his late teens. Only stopped when he contributed in killing his sister. Kept important secrets from the rest of the magical world, including Harry, whom they heavily concerned. Placed himself into Harry's life so that he could influence him to do what he deemed necessary. Was okay with Harry dying if it meant it killed Voldemort too and wasn't planning to let Harry make his own choice until the last possible second.

Don't get me wrong, they were both great characters, but horrible people.

I've read the new book! Here's my semi - objective - subjective review!  :P

If you don't like reading: It's not as good or in - depth as the books. BUT - it's not a book, its a play. This makes the difference in quality more of a given than a surprise. It's not as in depth and Rowling didn't write it, so some of the ideas and characters have changed.

Spoiler

It lacks a lot of the details and setups of the original series. This was something Rowling was an expert at. To give you perspective - in the first seven books, one school year passes within each book. In this new edition (a single book), I believe four school years pass. And it's not as though this book is four times longer - no - it's actually shorter than most of the other ones. Lots of characters are hardly developed or introduced. Some are completely ignored (Little James and Lily Potter!)

However, this is not a bad thing. Indeed, if it was written as the originals were, that would actually be a bad thing, because it's not a book - it's a script. Imagine a play where someone read through the entirety of a Harry Potter book. No one would be paying attention by the end! To make the thing work as a play it had to be short and to the point. Every line will be acted or spoken aloud - remember.

There are some fundamental things in the book that don't make sense. For example, a third year student outsmarts Hermione, the minister of magic, and infiltrates the ministry of magic. Also, dementors seem to have increased in power as a few of them were able to take down Hermione, Snape and Ron (all three are full grown adults at that point!) in minutes! Finally, some old characters act in ways they never would have in the original series. Harry - who seems to have developed a very cold side in his older age - especially acts different. He acts towards other characters in a way that the old Harry never would have - mistreating McGonagall, for instance. (A witch he had a lot of respect and love for.)

However, once again this is only to be expected. Rowling didn't even write most of this one - someone else did, with Rowling helping a limited amount. This automatically results in some differences. Luckily all the really important rules of the world of Harry Potter still stand.

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Now to weigh in with @Jet the binturong

Concerning Snape, I concur. He's a loved character and a great character but despite his, perhaps, good heart - he was a bad person.

Neville and Harry are definitely great points of proof, but the deciding factor for me was his treatment of Sirius. Sirius had a childhood with parents that hated him, ran away from home, lost his brother, lost two of his best friends, was betrayed by one of his two remaining best friends (causing his last best friend to hate him for years), spent years in Azkaban for a crime he did not commit, and then was forced to stay inside, unable to help fight the most evil wizard in history who ruined his life and killed the people he loved the most.

Rather than feel pity, Snape mocked him and prodded him - perhaps contributing to Sirius' death. With the good side in constant peril, Snape attacking the few people on his own side certainly wasn't a move that an intelligent adult with morals would make. While he's a great character, he is indeed a bad person.

With your view on Dumbledore, I have to disagree. His youth was all wrong - there's no mistaking or denying that. But in his adulthood he acted completely contrary to that. His plans with Harry were not made in evil. Dumbledore just had to do what was best to save the world. If Harry had to die to stop Voldemort from taking over, then that was what would have to happen. Harry himself eventually agrees with what Dumbledore had planned, and fulfills it. This plan ends up saving the world from Voldemort, so I'd say it was the right idea, albeit a bit messy.

Also Dumbledore was only okay with Harry dying because he was a Horcrux keeping Voldemort alive. Given the alternative of Voldemort taking over, I think I would prefer Harry to die as well.  :)

PS: We get to see the world under Voldemort's control in The Cursed Child, and I definitely prefer Harry dying over that.

Dumbledore's morality is a lot more complex than Snape's. Dumbledore very much clings to the idea of doing things for the greater good, and it is my belief that his personal interest in Harry was partly due to the fact that he needed to groom him into becoming someone who would sacrifice themselves "for the greater good." He was only planning to tell Harry this when it was absolutely necessary, thus giving him very little time to make a decision. Ultimately, I think Harry would have done it anyway, but the way Dumbledore went about his plan was incredibly sketchy.

EDIT: Oh and good point about Sirius. I knew there was something I was missing.

Quote from: Jet the binturong on August 16, 2016, 08:44:34 PM
Snape: Bullied Neville so much that he became his worst fear (and bear in mind, Neville's parents were tortured into insanity). Was the wizarding equivalent of a Nazi and only stopped because Voldemort killed the girl he creepily obsessed over for years even after he'd mocked her, called her a mudblood and generally been horrible to her. Took his frustrations with James out on Harry, an eleven year-old boy who could barely even remember his dad.

Dumbledore: Wizarding equivalent of a Nazi until his late teens. Only stopped when he contributed in killing his sister. Kept important secrets from the rest of the magical world, including Harry, whom they heavily concerned. Placed himself into Harry's life so that he could influence him to do what he deemed necessary. Was okay with Harry dying if it meant it killed Voldemort too and wasn't planning to let Harry make his own choice until the last possible second.

Don't get me wrong, they were both great characters, but horrible people.

I guess when you put it that way they don't seem so great but in the end they played a critical role in defeating voldemort

Quote from: Jet the binturong on August 16, 2016, 11:17:50 PM
Dumbledore's morality is a lot more complex than Snape's. Dumbledore very much clings to the idea of doing things for the greater good, and it is my belief that his personal interest in Harry was partly due to the fact that he needed to groom him into becoming someone who would sacrifice themselves "for the greater good." He was only planning to tell Harry this when it was absolutely necessary, thus giving him very little time to make a decision. Ultimately, I think Harry would have done it anyway, but the way Dumbledore went about his plan was incredibly sketchy.

EDIT: Oh and good point about Sirius. I knew there was something I was missing.

Thanks.  :) 

It's hard to deny these points so I'm going to go with the over - used proverb: Desperate times, desperate measures.

I found a review that perfectly sums up my feelings about Cursed Child.

Haven't read it, probably won't for a while. Sounded terrible.

If you don't already want to, I would not recommend bothering to pick it up. Quite frankly, I'm surprised Rowling gave it her seal of approval. (And that she thinks Snape actually loved Lily, I mean come on). She could have just been like "this is authorised fanfiction, you can have it but it's not canon" but no, it's canon. And it just doesn't deserve to be. It reads like two terrible fanfics fell in love and produced this abomination as a result. The only things that come close to saving it are Scorpius and Draco.

I read the summary a while back, it didn't appeal to me. I think I'll steer clear of it for a while, then.

From what I've heard about it from the Reddit community, it poorly portrays the old characters and fumbles with the new ones. Doesn't help that it's a play, either.

I still can't believe I'm the only Gryffindor on here.

I think Lt said he was a gryffindor

I haven't read The Cursed Child yet. Thanks for all your reviews and feedback on it, it's shaping my desire to read it. New, relevant poll going up.

Poll results:

'Witch' Hogwarts House are you in?

Gryffindor
    - 1 (5.6%)
Hufflepuff
    - 8 (44.4%)
Ravenclaw
    - 6 (33.3%)
Slytherin
    - 3 (16.7%)

Total Members Voted: 18

EDIT: Would you like to see other options on the new poll? Would you like the poll to include the play?

Y'all ought to read the Cursed child.::)No, it wasn't very good, but you aren't a true Potter fan if'n you don't bother to read one of the books just because of what others say.

That's like saying you aren't a true Star Wars fan if you don't watch the prequels. You don't need, want, or should watch the prequels. There are probably millions of Star Wars fans who enjoy the franchise without watching the prequels. The same should be applied to Harry Potter fans and The Cursed Child.

Quote from: alexandre on September 30, 2016, 05:45:35 AM
Y'all ought to read the Cursed child.::)No, it wasn't very good, but you aren't a true Potter fan if'n you don't bother to read one of the books just because of what others say.

I was never a true Potter fan anyway - Too formulated. Also, 11-yr-olds running easily able to do what adult wizards couldn't? Nope, not for me.

It was Hermione doing all the work. Harry and Ron just tagged along for the ride, and because they were needed at key points in the book.

... see what I did there? Key points in the book?

*Claps*

Well, even though my family's had it for 3 weeks, I finally got around to reading The Cursed Child. My main reaction: meh.

It was a decent enough story, but the fault is on J. K. Rowling, because it was excellent as a play script but disappointing as a novel. It could easily have been turned into an excellent two or three books. As it is, the whole thing feels rushed and ill-defined. Furthermore, the main character is not really sympathetic, and most of the supporting characters are vague.

Scorpius, on the other hand, is brilliant. He is easily among my favorite characters, up there with Ron, Fred and George, and Lupin. A nerdy, nervous, nice Malfoy. Perfect!

My general feeling after reading it was, "Oh, that was nice, but she could have done a lot better." As it is, she lazily released the play script instead of novels, no doubt having already sold the movie rights. It disconcerts me that she treats her readers as mere commodities to milk profit from. An aesthetic, she is not.

Has anyone taken the new patronus quiz on Pottermore? I took it and got a crow, which is legitimately what I've always said my patronus would be, so go figure. :D

(Also, I got Ravenclaw and Pukwudgie, and my wand is alder, dragon heartstring, 13" slightly springy.)

I got a bunny ;D

I got a husky. :P I do love huskies though, so that's cool.

I got a freaking bird. I will find a way to reset this. :P

Seems like you have to be a member to do it. :P

Also, I finally saw the first movie.

 I liked the Cursed Child script, you can't go in expecting a book though, there is only dialogue, and a tiny bit of description thrown in here and there, which means the action scenes are a bit... Lackluster.

All in all though I thought it was a good story, and it has that charm that all the Harry Potter books have. It was a fast enough read that you didn't get bogged down in the middle. The story was fun, and it helped smooth out some of the issues with the time turners.

FYI
I'd have a wolf patronus, and I'd be in Gryffindor, or in Wampus at Ilvermorny.

I deleted my account and made a new one.

I got Slytherin again, and this time I got a fox patronus! I'm so happy. :D

I forgot my Ilvermony house, but I was sorted into Slytherin.

Quote from: Skarzs on October 06, 2016, 04:28:52 PM
Seems like you have to be a member to do it. :P

Also, I finally saw the first movie.

Yep.
What'd you think of it, @Skarzs?

It was good.

I have a dolphin patronus, also I am in Thunderbird in Ilvermorny, though I am a Ravenclaw in Hogwarts. I am not sure what any of the Ilvermorny houses symbolize though.

I signed up, tried the patronus test, got a chow dog, was mortified and immediately deleted my account and resolved to be done with the whole thing permanently ::)

@Wylder Treejumper I could send you a PDF of what to answer to get any patronus. ;)

Quote from: Wylder Treejumper on October 07, 2016, 09:38:52 PM
I signed up, tried the patronus test, got a chow dog, was mortified and immediately deleted my account and resolved to be done with the whole thing permanently ::)

A chow? o.O

I've been enjoying reading the history of Ilvermorny. It's no Hogwarts, but it's nice to see the wizarding world shaped in to American history. The only parts of it I don't like are the interpretation of Native American spirituality as "witchcraft" and the fact that it was created by a member of the Gaunt family, making the wizarding world feel small. Whether or not it was based on Hogwarts, I would've preferred some random witch appearing in the history books as the founder of the American school instead of repeating the same old family names throughout wizarding history. Anyway, new poll reflecting the Ilvermorny Houses.

Poll results: The Cursed Child book?

I read it, enjoyed it, and would recommend it
    - 3 (27.3%)
I read it and was disappointed
    - 1 (9.1%)
I haven't read it but have interest in it because it's a part of the Potterverse
    - 3 (27.3%)
I haven't read it and am not interested in it
    - 4 (36.4%)

I'm pretty sure everyone who's interested would take the quiz, even if they're not American. I'm a Pukwudgie.

I don't even know what they all mean or stand for.

I took it twice, and I got Thunderbird the first time, Horned Serpent the second.

Here's the Ilvermorny page (http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Ilvermorny) on the HP Wiki, where you can read more. I'd equate it to Hogwarts as Horned Serpent being the "Ravenclaw of Ilvermorny" as it favours scholars, Wampus being the "Gryffindor" as it favours warriors, and Thunderbird and Pukwudgie both appear to have qualities similar to those sought after in Hufflepuffs (healers and adventurers). As Slytherin traits (resourcefulness, cunning, ambition, self-preservation) go, there doesn't appear to be an exact equivalent.

Ah, okay. Thanks!

So.
How do you get sorted?
Even though, as a Slytherin, I doubt one will fit perfectly.

They're not supposed to be equivalent to Hogwarts houses.

So, guys...
What are your opinions on Dudley? >:D

As Dumbledore pointed out, he's definitely a product of his spoiled upbringing, but I like him more as he gets older and starts to think for himself. He learned early on how easy it was to push around his parents and sought the same submissive behaviour in his peers/followers, but I don't at all think he's a wicked person. I never saw any of the cruel things he did as a child as anything more than childish, bullying behaviour. I can't call myself a fan, because he really made Harry's childhood miserable, but by the seventh book, I liked Dudley and enjoyed his and Harry's last parting. Of his family, I think he was the most emotionally attached to Harry, his equal in age, relied on Harry as a means to reinforce his own dominance in the household and neighbourhood, and eventually respected him as a human, relative, and wizard more than his parents ever did.

Well said, Banya.

I like the thought that JK almost wrote in a magical child for Dudley. That gives him and Harry another chance to start again. And, since redemption is a recurring theme (Snape, Dudleyish, Peter, Draco, Regulus, Kreacher, etc.) in the books, it would make sense they would reunite eventually.

Apparently from Pottermore, ah'm a Ravenclav...Ah 'ave alvayz loved ziz zeriez und enjoyed readin' zem again und again. Und Dudley vaz good, 'e vaz alvayz a fun vone tae upzet by Harry (zuch az viz ze buzh ah zink it vaz) und 'ov 'e ultimately ended up better zan 'ov 'e began.

Ravenclaw is the only house I haven't gotten. :D

I'm Slytherpuff mostly, though. And Thunderbird!

Has anyone taken their Patronus quiz yet? Mine is a tigress.

I'm a bunny ;D

Quote from: Rosie Willowwater on November 04, 2016, 04:21:40 PM
I'm a bunny ;D

Ah 'ave tae pozt ziz after zat pozt.

*sort of bump*
I can't believe that I've only started Harry Potter recently. I wanted to read it, but just didn't have the time/

Welcome, new Potterhead! I hope you're enjoying the books!!

Quote from: Banya on November 15, 2016, 02:56:48 AM
Welcome, new Potterhead! I hope you're enjoying the books!!

I am, thank you!  ;D

How much have you read so far?

About half of the first book. The part where... *looks at page* Harry plays the Quidditch match against Slytherin and his broom starts to go crazy.

Quote from: BlueRose on November 04, 2016, 03:48:48 PM
Ravenclaw is the only house I haven't gotten. :D

I'm Slytherpuff mostly, though. And Thunderbird!

Has anyone taken their Patronus quiz yet? Mine is a tigress.

Really? Slytherin was the only one I hadn't gotten before I checked out the new site. (Ravenclaw twice, Gryffindor once, and Hufflepuff multiple times) and. . . I don't remember my Ilvermony house.

My Patronus is a husky.

I saw Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them at the midnight premiere in my city the other day. I really enjoyed it, I liked how it's expanded the wizarding world so we get to see how magic operates in other parts of the world. I feel like 5 movies in the series could easily become overkill, but they got off to a good start.

Anyone else seen it yet, if so what are your thoughts?

Wizarding society (as portrayed in Fantastic Beasts) seems really unethical. (More in the spoiler.)

Significant spoilers for Fantastic Beasts

One, it seems like they look down upon no-majs a lot. I think they mentioned no interpersonal relationships of any kind are permitted between wizards and no-majs? That's kind of harsh.

Two, they're really overzealous with memory wiping- to the extent that they'll take memories from an entire city of people. I'm not sure that's okay.

Three, they can fix everything that was broken after Credence tears up the place... so where are they when natural disasters strike? Think about how many lives they could save or dramatically improve. Is it okay to not use that power for the good of others if you have it? I'm sure wizards never have problems with hurricanes or earthquakes...

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There's been some controversy around Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them. Rowling's handling of native american culture was criticized as being disrespectful and ignorant. With the American wizards there was speculation that Rowling was implying that they were less civilized and barbaric. Writers have to be careful when they choose to portray a culture that isn't their own, often times they push their own beliefs or views of what that culture is like. It's like if you're an expert in chemistry you wouldn't write critics about art or lecture on history because that's not your realm of experience. I've seen some of the Harry Potter movies and have read two or three of the books. It's not really my type of story, I'm not a big fan of wands, I like magic that's more natural and has an ancient and druidic feel.

There was a point in this movie where I thought it live up to the others, and then the last quarter came...
Rusvul explained why I'm unsure perfectly.

Quote from: Brocktress on November 20, 2016, 11:18:02 PM
There's been some controversy around Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them. Rowling's handling of native american culture was criticized as being disrespectful and ignorant. With the American wizards there was speculation that Rowling was implying that they were less civilized and barbaric. Writers have to be careful when they choose to portray a culture that isn't their own, often times they push their own beliefs or views of what that culture is like. It's like if you're an expert in chemistry you wouldn't write critics about art or lecture on history because that's not your realm of experience. I've seen some of the Harry Potter movies and have read two or three of the books. It's not really my type of story, I'm not a big fan of wands, I like magic that's more natural and has an ancient and druidic feel.

Native Americans?...

Native Americans or otherwise known as Indians, the people that originally inhabited North America before settlers from Europe came. I think Rowling took some of the Native American beliefs and legends to add to her story.

So, I've got this theory that Snape should've been sorted into Hufflepuff. Thoughts?

Absolutely not. Snape was forever ambitious and self-serving. Even after he joined the fight against Voldemort he did it for purely selfish reasons (Voldemort planned to kill the woman he "loved"). And even then he only helped because Dumbledore wouldn't do what he asked for free. Another piece of evidence is his ceaseless pursuit of the DADA teacher position.

Snape was a Slytherin through and through.

And being a Slytherin is not a bad thing.

Well, it seemed to be that the majority of his focus in life was on Lily. From the time he met her he seemed to be unwaveringly loyal to her. One of the things that set Hufflepuffs apart is their loyalty. Even after her death, one of his life ambitions was to protect her son that he utterly detested. I think that had he originally been sorted into a different house he would never have become cunning and ambitious to the degree that he was.

Also, in Deathly Hallows we witness a conversation between Snape and Dumbledore in which Dumbledore implies that Snape may have been sorted into the wrong house. Dumbledore implies that maybe Snape should have been put in Gryffindor instead, but to me Snape isn't exactly brave overall--just loyal to the point of bravery.

Yes, he was loyal, but he loved her.
That's one emotion causing him to be that way.

Everything else points Slytherin, and as you can see, Slytherins can be loyal. Not all of us are backstabbers.
Most Slytherins have strong loyalty to their house, that doesn't make them Hufflepuff.

Okay, I've become somewhat annoyed with the concept of sorting students into houses based on their values. First of all, you can value knowledge, ambition, hard work, and bravery equally. In fact, they kind of go hand in hand. To pick one over others is kind of ridiculous. Besides, there are an infinite amount of virtues/concepts that people can value and to single out just a handful of them really narrows the scope of what people can be like.

I also have problem with the Ilvermorny houses. They represent mind, body, heart, and soul. Why can't you value and be influenced by all four?

Well, now you have come to the intrinsic criticism of personality factors: people are integrated beings, and most will fall at various points on any scale at various times in their lives.

I'm not a Harry Potter fan, but you're taking the system too seriously.

There were several characters who could have been sorted into multiple houses. Dumbledore could have been a Slytherin or a Ravenclaw but he's a Gryffindor. Harry could have been a Slytherin but he's a Gryffindor. Having a dominant trait doesn't automatically mean you have to devalue the others. Dumbledore was cunning and deceptive for his entire life. Harry was ruthlessly ambitious. Hagrid (a Gryffindor) was kind and loyal (Hufflepuff traits).

Dumbledore was the ultimate troll of the Harry Potter universe.

Had he just been honest with Harry instead of trying to shroud everything in mystery so much could have been avoided.

I just had to show you guys this.

That is calm, though. ;D

Yeagh...

Maybe that is Dumbledore's way of calmly running into a room, grabbing a kid by the shoulders, and yelling at him.

Good thing we don't see what happens when he is really upset.

Yes.

I don't think the actor represented Dumbledore very well, and that is one of the several reasons I wasn't keen on The Goblet of Fire film.

It is my least favorite in the series...including the book.

So I have something to say regarding Fantastic Beasts.

"Oh but Jet, you don't like Harry Potter." You're right, I don't. However, the only things I cared about from Harry Potter were the world and Dumbledore's backstory (well, Hagrid, House Elves, and the scene where Fudge meets with John Major too, but those don't help illustrate my point) and the Fantastic Beasts series is all about those things. Add to that that I absolutely love Newt Scamander, and that makes the last film my favourite thing to come out of J. K. Rowling.

So.

Has anyone else noticed that Newt Scamander is the current master of the Elder Wand? He bested Grindelwald in combat and disarmed him at the end of the last movie, albeit he used a creature, and Grindelwald did not have the Wand on his person at the time. But prior stories seem to suggest that this doesn't matter. Harry won the Elder Wand from Draco when he physically pulled Draco's own wand out of his hand, and one of the stories of the Elder Wand includes someone slitting a master's throat in the middle of the night and then taking it. Therefore, if Rowling has paid attention to her own previously established lore, since Grindelwald was master of the Wand, and then disarmed by Newt Scamander, Newt is now the master of the Wand.

Just something to think about.

I expect that to be explained by Newt passing the wand to Dumbledore in the next movie, and should that be impossible, dueling someone, who then duels Dumbledore... or just dueling Dumbledore himself, though that wouldn't make sense.

Although, I think that Dumbledore won the wand from Grindelwald, so perhaps it'll go differently.