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Brian Jacques' Works (Spoilers) => History, Legends and Myths => Topic started by: mattimouse20 on January 06, 2012, 11:37:29 PM

Title: salamandastron: exactly how old is it?
Post by: mattimouse20 on January 06, 2012, 11:37:29 PM
is salamandastron a myth? who discovered it? how does it tie in with redwall? some say many a horde of vermin raided it in search of treasure. According to the book, "Salamandastron", young Mara, the daughter of the famed lord urthstripe, befriended a couple of vermin against her fathers wishes. After all, vermin are considered vile, dangerous creatures and should never be associated with. evidently, can we unlock the true secrets of salamandastron?
its rulers? it's treasures, it's history? or could it be locked away and forgotten forever?
Title: Re: salamandastron: exactly how old is it?
Post by: Skipper on January 07, 2012, 10:56:56 AM
salamandastron is obviously not a myth since ceatures visit and live here.
no one knows who discovered it or who the first ruler was.
it ties in wih redwall because they boh try to help each other in times of need and vermin are drawn to both.
Mara was adopted by Urthstipe; yes vermin did seek treasure there and there was.
i truely doubt we can unlock its secrets, we know little of it, we know some of the early rulers and we know here was treasure there.

Title: Re: salamandastron: exactly how old is it?
Post by: Lutra on January 07, 2012, 12:38:55 PM
My obvious guess is the volcano was active long before anyone lived in the area.  The growth of Mossflower was due to volcanic ash and other nutrients.  When someone tried to actually inhabit it, well, as Skipper said it was never explained clearly.  So the landmark is very old but Salamandastron as a place is a mystery.
Title: Re: salamandastron: exactly how old is it?
Post by: Coobreedan on January 08, 2012, 02:20:02 PM
But Salamadaastron wasn't a volcano, that was just the smoke from Boar forging weapons.
Title: Re: salamandastron: exactly how old is it?
Post by: Plugg Firetail on January 08, 2012, 05:48:03 PM
Well, we don't know. It was known for the fire lizard thing long before Boar was born. It mentions it as a volcano a few times I think.
Title: Re: salamandastron: exactly how old is it?
Post by: Blademaster on January 13, 2012, 08:48:19 PM
Why it's as old as Mossflower itself mate.  ;)
Title: Re: salamandastron: exactly how old is it?
Post by: Bragoon on January 13, 2012, 08:58:36 PM
I think Salamandastron is older than Mossflower.  It has been theorized that Mossflower grew up so lush and thick as a direct result of the volcanic activity of Salamandastron. 

I think, like with rather a lot of things in Redwall, we'll never know exactly how old it is.  It is an interesting landscape in the Redwall series, but it's also intended to be surrounded in mystery.  No-one knows who first lived there, or who made all the carvings on the walls of the badger lords'/ladies' chambers.
Title: Re: salamandastron: exactly how old is it?
Post by: Melody on January 14, 2012, 08:33:55 PM
all I know is..................It's old ;D
Title: Re: salamandastron: exactly how old is it?
Post by: Captain Tammo on January 19, 2012, 09:53:58 PM
I'd say thousands, if not millions of years old! Tink about it, it's like saying "how old is mt. St. Helen's or mt. Everest. There's no exact year, but it has to be as old as some dinosaurs or the ice age animals at least.
Title: Re: salamandastron: exactly how old is it?
Post by: Evamurray on February 03, 2012, 01:37:13 AM
Yes,it has to be very old and it was probity a volcano because it does say it was a couple times I think ???
Title: Re: salamandastron: exactly how old is it?
Post by: Log-a-Log on February 13, 2012, 10:35:50 PM
I wonder that if throughout all  of Salamandastron's existence that only the badger lords and long patrol lived there. There could have possibly been other beasts living there before
Title: Re: salamandastron: exactly how old is it?
Post by: Bluefire on June 04, 2012, 01:36:40 AM
It's probably not much younger than mossflower country. i wouldnt be surprised if other animals did live there before, interesting point
Title: Re: salamandastron: exactly how old is it?
Post by: Dannflower Reguba on June 04, 2012, 05:17:26 PM
Quote from: Coobreedan on January 08, 2012, 02:20:02 PM
But Salamadaastron wasn't a volcano, that was just the smoke from Boar forging weapons.
Actually it WAS a volcano, hence the dragon myth. It was called the fire mountain for a reason, the mountain was there WAY before Boar the fighter, nad do you actually think it is possible that the hares and badgers dug out that entire system of caves?
Title: Re: salamandastron: exactly how old is it?
Post by: Redwaller on June 04, 2012, 05:19:24 PM
Maybe they dug some of them; but maybe the majority was made by the volcano
Title: Re: salamandastron: exactly how old is it?
Post by: Skipper on June 04, 2012, 08:33:42 PM
They wouldnt have dug any since the mountain was rock and not soil or earth.
Title: Re: salamandastron: exactly how old is it?
Post by: Dannflower Reguba on June 04, 2012, 09:30:57 PM
They could have EXPANDED some... But not much.
Title: Re: salamandastron: exactly how old is it?
Post by: gorath on June 05, 2012, 04:33:57 PM
Yea.
Title: Re: salamandastron: exactly how old is it?
Post by: MatthiasMan on June 24, 2012, 11:55:41 PM
Lord Brocktree is the first book in chronological order, right? Figure it out from there.