I can't seem to find a decent answer to this - cheese is present in so many of the books, in feasts and also in making cheese as Skarlath did in Outcast. But what is this cheese made from? Milk? There aren't any cows/buffaloes/goats/etc as far as I know... ???
So what did they use for the cheese?
QuoteYep, it's answered.
Greensap milk or something similar to soy milk - a plant based milk in any case, and they use that to make cheese and possibly creams and other dairy equivalent foodstuffs.
i have no clue ??? ??? ???
They have mentioned milk before too in some of the books. They called it Greensap milk or something.
That is right, Greensap milk. However, Mattthias drank goats milk in Redwall, so yeah...
Hmm, if I remember right, wasn't there cheese rolled in the book MoR?
Honestly I can't remember many specifics not having read the books in years.
Hmm, greensap milk. Ah so like some plant produce, similar to soy milk? That would make sense.
I read somewhere that the milk they use is made from plants, not animals.
What kind of plants? That could be interesting
you can get milk from dandelions 8)
But in Redwall, Matthias drank goats milk. Where did that come from?
um a goat. that book had a horse in it.
Well yes, the book was his first...
And a dog.
And pigs.
;D
And a beaver and a porcupine.
But not the last one.
That always had me stumped. Its made clear that there aren't any cows or anything like that, so it is a mystery...
Hey they are walking talking animals with swords and we are trying to logically explain why they have cheese!
^ True, but sometimes you have to make sense out of a set situation/story, even if said situation is not quite true to life... if that makes sense!
Quote from: rachel25 on September 19, 2013, 04:48:22 PM
you can get milk from dandelions 8)
What oh, old chap, if I remember correctly, you can make a butter substitute with it, or maybe I'm mistaking it with young unrippened hickory nuts...
Anyway, my best guess would be that the bally greensap milk is what they use, wot?
I'm not positive but I thought it was made from something called "meadowcream". I don't know what that came from, however. Probably a sap from a plant. Didn't they make a cheese with sliced almonds in it and put it on celery? Yum-yum, wish I had some right now!
Actually meadow cream was a topping like whipped cream.
Lookin' up greenzap ah found ziz:
QuoteIf there are no cows in Redwall, where do they get the milk and cheese?
This is a good question. There are indeed no cows or goats in Redwall. There are, however, plants that produce milk-like substances. This is what is referred to as "greensap milk". Besides, how could you have an abbeyful of mice with no cheese?
Zae aye, tiz indeed greenzap milk. Ah found it 'ere (http://www.sullivanet.com/redwall/faq/rwfaq_universe.htm).
Yep, it's answered.
Greensap milk or something similar to soy milk - a plant based milk in any case, and they use that to make cheese and possibly creams and other dairy equivalent foodstuffs.
I'll add that to the OP.
Maybe it's made of mouse milk, or hedgehog's milk, or something like that. They are all mammals, after all.
The answer is a few posts above. ;)
Quote from: Emperor Ublaz on September 27, 2013, 01:49:48 AM
Maybe it's made of mouse milk, or hedgehog's milk, or something like that. They are all mammals, after all.
O_o Yeah. I don't think Brian would have knowingly implied that.
^ Yeah, let's keep it at female characters probably fed their newly borns with their milk - but no more use of it than that!
Ok, someone help me.
How the heck did the Redwallers make cheese???? Where did they get the milk? I'm confuuuseeeddd....
Well, I can't help you there. :P
Was just about to post a topic on the same matter no idea myself! ???
Many times throughout the series something called "greensap milk" was mentioned. They probably made cheese, butter etc. using that.
That's probably it, Jukka!
Oh, that makes sense! Thanks!
Very true.
Quote from: MeadowRabbit on September 27, 2013, 03:11:17 PM
^ Yeah, let's keep it at female characters probably fed their newly borns with their milk - but no more use of it than that!
Yes, let's please keep it at that. I'm not entirely sure that they would it. No offense meant to anybody, but that just sounds kinda gross to me.
I wonder what green sap cheese would taste like. :P
No!! it says in the series that they had goat cheese so they must have gotten that somehow.
The goat cheese was only mentioned in the first book, which also had other quirks like the horse and mentions of a town dog and piglets. Brian Jacques wasn't even planning to write a 22-book series at that point, so he hadn't hammered out all the details. And since he never mentioned those things again, I don't think goat cheese should be considered canon.
Quote from: Jukka the Sling on November 15, 2014, 03:08:59 AM
The goat cheese was only mentioned in the first book, which also had other quirks like the horse and mentions of a town dog and piglets. Brian Jacques wasn't even planning to write a 22-book series at that point, so he hadn't hammered out all the details. And since he never mentioned those things again, I don't think goat cheese should be considered canon.
I agree. Most series do not make it to 22 books.