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Brian Jacques' Works (Spoilers) => Character Discussion => Topic started by: Blaggut on September 16, 2015, 06:13:51 PM

Title: Animal to Size Ratio
Post by: Blaggut on September 16, 2015, 06:13:51 PM
So, if you guys wanna make more humanoid, furry-ish characters post size ratios here. I'll post some as well.

(By size ratio I mean animal height and size converted to human size. Hedgehogs at 5', otters and squirrels at 6', Badgers at 17-18'.)
Title: Re: Animal to Size Ratio
Post by: LT Sandpaw on September 16, 2015, 06:37:10 PM

I always thought of Mice and shrews along with moles at the four foot range, with squirrels, hedgehogs, and voles being about the same height at five feet. Then there would be the otters, hares, and cats at about five and a half to six feet. Then badgers averaging around nine feet.

That's the way I always imagined it for Woodlanders anyway.
Title: Re: Animal to Size Ratio
Post by: Blaggut on September 16, 2015, 07:45:53 PM
I imagine rats at being a head shorter then humans, with weasels and stoats being a head taller, with foxes at 6'
Title: Re: Animal to Size Ratio
Post by: Vilu Daskar on September 16, 2015, 09:48:44 PM
Woodlanders around 5ft, Vermin around 5.5ft, otters around 5.5ft, hares around 6ft, and badger anywhere between 7ft and 10ft.
Title: Re: Animal to Size Ratio
Post by: Damug Warfang on November 06, 2015, 11:11:02 PM
I imagine it as in different "tiers" of animal sizes.

At around 5 feet are moles, shrews, voles, mice, and rats/

6 feet: Ferrets, weasels, stoats, hedgehogs, squirrels, otters.

7 feet: foxes, maybe some big otters and hedgehogs...

8 feet:wildcats and badgers.  The only reason you might get the impression badgers are stronger and bigger is because they get Bloodwrath.
Title: Re: Animal to Size Ratio
Post by: The Skarzs on November 07, 2015, 05:45:11 PM
It's a bit skewed how to think of it, and it really depends upon the reader. I know that some people have imagined the animals as being on all fours, though I have never thought of them that way.
The height of squirrels, mice, and moles is rather unclear. While it is understandable why some would imagine moles to be smaller than mice because of their persona, in reality moles can be considerably larger than mice. Squirrels and mice appear to be around the same size in the books, but, as with moles, squirrels are obviously much larger. Rats can get very big in real life, and because of that variety the sizes are up to interpretation.

Quote from: Damug Warfang on November 06, 2015, 11:11:02 PM
At around 5 feet are moles, mice, and rats/

6 feet: Ferrets, weasels, stoats, voles, hedgehogs, squirrels, otters.
Hold up. . . voles are pretty much the same size as mice. Not sure why you would put voles at 6ft and rats at 5.
Title: Re: Animal to Size Ratio
Post by: Damug Warfang on November 08, 2015, 12:47:20 PM
Quote from: The Skarzs on November 07, 2015, 05:45:11 PM
It's a bit skewed how to think of it, and it really depends upon the reader. I know that some people have imagined the animals as being on all fours, though I have never thought of them that way.
The height of squirrels, mice, and moles is rather unclear. While it is understandable why some would imagine moles to be smaller than mice because of their persona, in reality moles can be considerably larger than mice. Squirrels and mice appear to be around the same size in the books, but, as with moles, squirrels are obviously much larger. Rats can get very big in real life, and because of that variety the sizes are up to interpretation.

Quote from: Damug Warfang on November 06, 2015, 11:11:02 PM
At around 5 feet are moles, mice, and rats/

6 feet: Ferrets, weasels, stoats, voles, hedgehogs, squirrels, otters.
Hold up. . . voles are pretty much the same size as mice. Not sure why you would put voles at 6ft and rats at 5.

Well, we do see some big rats in the series, like gloomer, me and cluny, but most of the time rats are about the same size as moles and bigger-sized mice. 
Title: Re: Animal to Size Ratio
Post by: The Skarzs on November 08, 2015, 03:28:39 PM
I have never seen a rat the same size as a mouse unless it was not fully grown, nor have I heard of a vole larger than a rat. :P That's what I'm saying, I think the two should be switched in your list.
Title: Re: Animal to Size Ratio
Post by: Hickory on November 08, 2015, 08:14:34 PM
It's also fair to say that Cluny wasn't a native British rat, he came from a ship. Or the sewer.
Title: Re: Animal to Size Ratio
Post by: Damug Warfang on November 09, 2015, 10:58:15 PM
Quote from: The Skarzs on November 08, 2015, 03:28:39 PM
I have never seen a rat the same size as a mouse unless it was not fully grown, nor have I heard of a vole larger than a rat. :P That's what I'm saying, I think the two should be switched in your list.

You have a point, but you haven't see n everything.  Also, rats are definetely not the same size as ferrets.  I will, however, take your advice and move voles down.  Thanks!

I forget shrews.
Title: Re: Animal to Size Ratio
Post by: Hickory on November 10, 2015, 12:00:31 PM
Well, the pygmy shrews are incredibly tiny. Normal shres are slightly smaller than a mouse.
Title: Re: Animal to Size Ratio
Post by: Ashleg on November 10, 2015, 01:24:34 PM
(http://orig14.deviantart.net/e324/f/2013/264/6/b/redwall___table_of_proportions__2013_by_fortunatafox-d6n5v7o.jpg)

Left to right:
(Top)
shrew, mouse, mole, vole, squirrel, hedgehog, hare, otter, badger,
(Bottom)
weasel, rat, stoat, ferret, marten, cat, fox, wolverine.

This is always how I pictured it except swap the wildcat and the fox.
I did not draw this, by the way. :P
Title: Re: Animal to Size Ratio
Post by: Jewel Thief on November 10, 2015, 01:46:34 PM
I always pictured both wolverines and wildcats being much taller, actually.
Kinda wish we could've seen how well Gulo would fare against a full-grown badger...
Title: Re: Animal to Size Ratio
Post by: The Skarzs on November 10, 2015, 04:06:35 PM
Quote from: Ashleg on November 10, 2015, 01:24:34 PM
(http://orig14.deviantart.net/e324/f/2013/264/6/b/redwall___table_of_proportions__2013_by_fortunatafox-d6n5v7o.jpg)

Left to right:
(Top)
shrew, mouse, mole, vole, squirrel, hedgehog, hare, otter, badger,
(Bottom)
weasel, rat, stoat, ferret, marten, cat, fox, wolverine.

This is always how I pictured it except swap the wildcat and the fox.
I did not draw this, by the way. :P
That's actually pretty accurate in the order in my mind, but I feel like the little guys should be a mite bigger.
Title: Re: Animal to Size Ratio
Post by: Wylder Treejumper on November 10, 2015, 05:18:12 PM
^^Yeah, pretty much. Although I would make the wildcat almost the same size as a badger (but not quite). They are about equal in power (though badgers have more raw strength, wildcats more agility).
Title: Re: Animal to Size Ratio
Post by: The Skarzs on November 10, 2015, 07:04:17 PM
Agreed. The wolverine and badger are pretty good, though.
Title: Re: Animal to Size Ratio
Post by: Dante8002 on January 11, 2020, 04:32:35 AM
I agree with the Lt Sandpaw guy.