I don't know about the rest of you, but reading this series has improved my knowledge of oceanic travel and of seafarer culture. It's great that Mr J. put in so much based on his days as a sailor.
Fiction + facts = a good read. ;)
I LOVE THIS SERIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sometimes I think it's better than redwall, however that's okay since it's by the same author ;D . I think the second book, "the angel's command" was one of the saddest books I've ever read. I'm really upset Mr. Jacques didn't write more of this series :'(
I've looked at these, but I thought I wouldn't be interested because, I'm not much of a water guy!
( hate the water! )
I've never read them but I appreciate that this thread is here. Now I have to read them...
Quote from: Galedeep on July 08, 2011, 11:23:17 PM
I've never read them but I appreciate that this thread is here. Now I have to read them...
I need to read them too...
They're worth looking into. ;)
THEY'RE AMAZING!!!!!
I've been meaning to get my hands on this series for a while. Now... now I absolutely have to. XD
I didn't like the first book especially, but the last two blew me off my feet and into shark infested waters (reference to Voyage of the Slaves). I found Voyage of the Slaves to have a sadder ending than the other two. i mean, poor Ben.
I WISH BJ TOLD US OR MANAGED TO TELL US WHAT HAPPENED TO BEN AND NED IN THE END!!!!!!
There is no end, they live forever!
Quote from: sabretache5611 on July 10, 2011, 03:13:08 AM
I didn't like the first book especially, but the last two blew me off my feet and into shark infested waters
Aw, man. I was at the book store today and couldn't find the first book in the series, but I did see the other two. I didn't get them because I didn't want to read it out of order.
Now I really wish I'd gotten them. XD
You have to read them in order. But that's also a good thing, it keeps you into it :D believe me it's worth reading 10 times over!
This may sound weird, but I'm glad BJ only wrote 3 of these books. It makes for a nice trilogy, and the series didn't get to the point where it became too big. It seems ideal to introduce people to BJ's work through three books rather than an intimidating 22 volumes.
Quote from: Matthias720 on July 11, 2011, 02:26:22 PM
This may sound weird, but I'm glad BJ only wrote 3 of these books. It makes for a nice trilogy, and the series didn't get to the point where it became too big. It seems ideal to introduce people to BJ's work through three books rather than an intimidating 22 volumes.
This is a very good point. I hadn't thought of this.
I'm trying to get them from my library can anyone tell me the names of the 3 books in order?
Sure. The books are:
1. Castaways of the Flying Dutchman
2. The Angel's Command
3. Voyage of Slaves
Thanks!
I might read them. My friends say they are really good. Sounds interesting!
My favorite character in the series is Ned, A.K.A. Den, short for Denmark. He's got a great sense of humor.
Neb and den and Ben and Ned are the best team EVER!
Quote from: Matthias720 on July 11, 2011, 02:26:22 PM
This may sound weird, but I'm glad BJ only wrote 3 of these books. It makes for a nice trilogy, and the series didn't get to the point where it became too big. It seems ideal to introduce people to BJ's work through three books rather than an intimidating 22 volumes.
I hadn't thought of this, kind of hoping for at least one more Ben and Ned adventure, but its absolutely true. I'm one those "you read one Redwall story, you've read them all" types, and too many stories can create writing ruts. I didn't see the Dutchmen stories getting into those ruts, though they definitely parallel Redwall when it comes to the character of Ben/Ned doing no wrong, always outwitting their captors without much effort.
Anyone know if there was another Dutchmen book out there Mr. Jacques had started or finished before his passing?
I don't think so. At least, not unless someone decides to do a fanfic. :(
Well I just finished the Redwall series, so I'll read Castaways now...
Oh and about series I like trilogies but I LOVE huge series of books.
So it's nice that Brian wrote 2 different series, 1 a trilogy, and one a huge series.
Question: Are these books any good? I don't wanna read them and have them be a HUGE letdown, if Jacques is only good at animal stories...
THEY ARE AWESOME!!! READ THEM!!!
O.K. Thanks! :)
I would like to read them, because a book I'm going to write after my first one is about ocean traveling. Is it a really good series?
Yes, these books are good. So good in fact, that I'd say that it doesn't matter that there are only 3 books in the series. It's just as good as the 22 books in Redwall. 8)
Quote from: Martha Braebuck on July 30, 2011, 06:01:56 PM
I would like to read them, because a book I'm going to write after my first one is about ocean traveling. Is it a really good series?
While it might be a good intro to some sea travel, most of the stories take place on land. So I'm not sure what you will gain from it. They are good reads. Ben reminds me a lot of Matthias, and Ned like Cornflower just based on how they act.
I think that the second book, "The Angels Command" would be a good one to learn about the sea, because it mostly takes place on a ship. The first and third books do take place mostly on land, but the second one doesn't.
Did anyone else notice that Al Misurata implies that he is an atheist/agnostic but refers to Ben as an infidel?
Infidel: A person who does not believe in religion or who adheres to a religion other than one's own.
Atheism is still a religion, so it makes sense
Atheism is not a religion, it's lack of a religion.
Let's not start that debate.
Aggghhhh!.... So... Tempted... Must... Debate!.....
Buuuut out of respect,
Then I'm not sure why he said it. Wasn't he Arabian? Most Muslims are Arab so it'd make sense as to why he said it. Or maybe it was just a word he heard a lot
I HIGHLY doubt that he just uses words because he hears them, he seems intelligent enough not to do that.
On another note it appears that the series has traces of Redwall in it. For example, after Eli (SPOILER) kills Padre Maltanese, he says that he didn't want to kill a CREATURE, yet he isn't vegetarian.
I dont understand what you mean?
Quote from: Lutra on August 02, 2011, 01:45:29 PM
Ben reminds me a lot of Matthias, and Ned like Cornflower just based on how they act.
I don't think I'd have ever compared Ned and Cornflower...but that's just me!
I was about ready to cry at the end of the 3rd book! (but I didn't...to hard hearted or something) I wish (and I may get in trouble for this) that BJ hadn't written as many Redwall books and wrote more of these instead. *ducks all knives, arrows, and rotten tomatoes aimed her way* OK I loved all the Redwall books (except Doomwyte), but 22 is kind of overkill.
Quote from: Icefire on August 21, 2011, 04:37:27 AM
Quote from: Lutra on August 02, 2011, 01:45:29 PM
Ben reminds me a lot of Matthias, and Ned like Cornflower just based on how they act.
I don't think I'd have ever compared Ned and Cornflower...but that's just me!
I was about ready to cry at the end of the 3rd book! (but I didn't...to hard hearted or something) I wish (and I may get in trouble for this) that BJ hadn't written as many Redwall books and wrote more of these instead. *ducks all knives, arrows, and rotten tomatoes aimed her way* OK I loved all the Redwall books (except Doomwyte), but 22 is kind of overkill.
I agree. But I wouldn't want the castaways series to be overkilled either. I just wish Brian made things in less of a pattern in the later redwall series
Quote from: Captain Tammo on August 21, 2011, 03:23:08 PM
Quote from: Icefire on August 21, 2011, 04:37:27 AM
Quote from: Lutra on August 02, 2011, 01:45:29 PM
Ben reminds me a lot of Matthias, and Ned like Cornflower just based on how they act.
I don't think I'd have ever compared Ned and Cornflower...but that's just me!
I was about ready to cry at the end of the 3rd book! (but I didn't...to hard hearted or something) I wish (and I may get in trouble for this) that BJ hadn't written as many Redwall books and wrote more of these instead. *ducks all knives, arrows, and rotten tomatoes aimed her way* OK I loved all the Redwall books (except Doomwyte), but 22 is kind of overkill.
I agree. But I wouldn't want the castaways series to be overkilled either. I just wish Brian made things in less of a pattern in the later redwall series
True, I wouldn't want castaways to be overkill also, but I think one more book would have been nice. The third book kind of leaves you hanging.
Well to an extent yes. After the third story, that's when Ben and Ned go to Chapelvale. So technically, the sequence if events is:
Book 1: The ship
Book 1: The Shepard
All of book 2
All of book 3
Book 1: The village
And did anyone else know that Brian was approached by STEVEN SPIELBERG to make a movie of the castaways of the flying Dutchman and Brian turned him down because he wanted kids to read instead!?!??
+1 fer Anti-techz
Quote from: Captain Tammo on August 24, 2011, 01:28:03 AM
So technically, the sequence if events is:
Book 1: The ship
Book 1: The Shepard
All of book 2
All of book 3
Book 1: The village
Oh, so
that's why there's so much time between
The Shepard and
The Village. I just finished the first book and I was wondering...
I think this was Brian's masterpiece. It certainly was the best set of supernatural/historical fiction I've ever read... Twas a shame that Serafina died, though. Poor Ben. Brian, may he rest in peace, was the one author who got me started reading... I will miss his work. REDWALLLL!!
Quote from: Captain Tammo on August 06, 2011, 01:58:29 AM
Aggghhhh!.... So... Tempted... Must... Debate!.....
Buuuut out of respect,
Then I'm not sure why he said it. Wasn't he Arabian? Most Muslims are Arab so it'd make sense as to why he said it. Or maybe it was just a word he heard a lot
He isn't Arab
precisely. Brian says that Al Misurata hails from the Misurata coast. That's in Libya. SO, Al Misurata might be the ancestor of a certain Libyan Colonel... ;) One note I might add: When all the trouble in Libya started, I already knew where every place was, thanks to Brian's book.
Quote from: White One6193 on August 24, 2011, 02:14:11 AM
I think this was Brian's masterpiece. It certainly was the best set of supernatural/historical fiction I've ever read... Twas a shame that Serafina died, though. Poor Ben. Brian, may he rest in peace, was the one author who got me started reading...
Brian got me reading too. I think it's sad that Ben will most likely never see serafina again, unless someone kills him. So wait, if Ben was stabbed through the heart, would he still live?
I doubt it.
Ooooooo I get it now. he can still die, he just doesn't AGE
Quote from: Captain Tammo on July 19, 2011, 09:05:47 PM
Neb and den and Ben and Ned are the best team EVER!
I like how they completely messed up their names. Shortened them, then turned them inside out.
Coobreedan-------Coob------------Booc---------Book
Cool.
Quote from: Captain Tammo on August 24, 2011, 04:12:39 PM
Ooooooo I get it now. he can still die, he just doesn't AGE
I never gathered he could die, because the angel always forced Ben and Ned to move on to others who needed help. I also felt it was to prevent suspicion that there was something unusual about him (the fact he did not age).
my second favorite series besides Redwall the first one is my favorite
I simply can't decide which is my favorite, they're all awesome!
well my older way older sister got me voyage of the slaves from the library when i was sick so i read the last one first and i love it but i also love the first one i am still on the second so do not spoil why it is so sad i mean anaconda dies but i am sure thouron (I think that is spelled right) does too but he is awesome
I really liked this series. Castaways of the Flying Dutchman was my favorite.
I agree with Tammo. I am so sad that Brian was not able to write anymore books in this series. :'( It was a very good well done book series and I enjoyed it when I actually started reading it. It took my sister several attempts to get me to read that series. I was so absorbed by Redwall that I did not want to read anything else even books written by the same author.
I find them very hard to read compared to Redwall. I've read a bit of the first and a bit of the last.
he technically could not finish them i mean Ben lives forever and always oh i love Ben
I think if you went long enough and enough books in the series were written, you'd be stuck with another Redwall formula of predictability, so maybe it was good that Mr. Jacques chose not to focus a lot of writing time on this series to make each story a bit more unique and less predictable. :)
I actually came close to having a crush on Ben. Sigh...yet another made-up book character that I have fallen in love with.
Quote from: Nightfire on October 07, 2011, 03:33:14 PM
I actually came close to having a crush on Ben. Sigh...yet another made-up book character that I have fallen in love with.
LOL Funny how that works, huh?
I want a black lab now! Hahaha
Last time I read it I was tired so I thought Denmark was a human! Fail. I read some again today, and although it was a completely different genre, you can still tell it's Brian Jacques.
Castaways is very much written like Redwall, so even if you didn't know the author per se, you could see the connection.
I've been obsessed with the Castaways for years and was always desperate for another one. Alas, I had to resort to writing fanfiction. If not for this series, I don't think I would have ever become a writer. I think Mr. Jacques could have written many more without it becoming a rut, with Redwall its mostly the same story, but with Castaways they can go anywhere in the world and any time after 1620. The possibilities are endless!
If anyone is interested in reading an Adventure featuring Ben and Ned, I'm on Fanfiction.net under Castaway5, or you can just go to books and go to the Castaways of the Flying Dutchman page. I've written about half of the stories on there, including one that takes place on the Titanic!
Quote from: Castaway5 on November 18, 2011, 06:43:30 AM
I've been obsessed with the Castaways for years and was always desperate for another one. Alas, I had to resort to writing fanfiction. If not for this series, I don't think I would have ever become a writer. I think Mr. Jacques could have written many more without it becoming a rut, with Redwall its mostly the same story, but with Castaways they can go anywhere in the world and any time after 1620. The possibilities are endless!
If anyone is interested in reading an Adventure featuring Ben and Ned, I'm on Fanfiction.net under Castaway5, or you can just go to books and go to the Castaways of the Flying Dutchman page. I've written about half of the stories on there, including one that takes place on the Titanic!
NO WAY THAT'S AWESOME!!!! Ill go check it out! How long are they?
Well I'm still posting Titanic, but its almost done. It'll probably be around 40,000 words...
The others are shorter, one's 13,000 words, the others range from a couple thousand to a couple hundred.
Quote from: Castaway5 on November 20, 2011, 05:39:15 PM
Well I'm still posting Titanic, but its almost done. It'll probably be around 40,000 words...
The others are shorter, one's 13,000 words, the others range from a couple thousand to a couple hundred.
I just read the noodling one and left a review, can't wait to read the others!
I started the titanic one, at the bottom of ch. 1 you mention someone named Amy? Who's Amy? Is she a character from another fanfiction, if so what one?
I will certainly look into the Titanic writing....curious to see how you pull that one off. :)
haha, I wrote Titanic a while back, so I took some liberties I normally wouldn't do. I decided to random add Amy, who was a character from Chaplevale, into that chapter so I could Ben go through some angst of seeing someone he knew.
Today I wouldn't have done it, but it doesn't really add much to the story besides chapters one and two.
Ooooooohhhh that Amy ok I get it now, I forgot about her for a sec.
I've just borrowed "Castaways of the Flying Dutchman" from the library, can't wait to start it!
it's amazing! i just lent it to someone i know and hope i get it back in tact!
I love this series. I almost have enough monney to buy the third book. I've read them all at least twice!
That's one thing I have forgotten to put on my amazon wishlist...I have Angel's Command but don't actually own copies of the Castaways and Voyage of Slaves. Those were library reads.
(goes to make some mods to his amazon wish list)
i want to get them for my B-day
I have all three books. the last one was my favorite sad one.
Actually checked my books for the "What Redwall stuff you have" topic and found I don't have Angel's Command but have the other two. Odd I wouldn't have the second book, but that's the one I need to buy....amazon marketplace here I come. :) All three of these are well worth owning.
I like pirates! ;D
How does one pronounce Chapelvale? (Chap-ay-vale), (chap-ul-vale) what?
dunno ;D
Chapel (Like the Church)
Vale (Rhymes with sail)
I've listened to them all on tape/cd. Brian Jacques is actually the narrator.
And I have two copies of book one, one nice hard back and a paperback I kept in my backpack for three years in highschool so I could read it whenever I wanted.
cool, I have one hard back the other two paperback.
i think that serie is very good i like it alot its kinda like redwall except with humans
i have the first on paperback got it for $1 yay!
wow thats a great deal
Chap-ul-v-ale - that's how Brian pronounced it in the audiobook ;)
Al Misurata and Van der Decken were the best villains of the series, in my opinion. Maude Bowe from the first book was sufficiently snarky, but not as well developed.
Kostas Krimboti was definitely my favorite supporting character, with the possible exception of big, lovable Otto. I see a lot of myself in those two. Speaking of crushing on a character, I fellhard for Serafina. ::) ;D
In
Anybody who read Martin the Warrior guessed how that one was going to end.
Well, yes. Different reasons though...how would you like to stay with a stud who never turned older while you aged and wrinkled? ;) That would be really hard to explain...then I don't think Serafina would've been so happy.
I think she would have understood. Ben wouldn't have stayed, he's not selfish.
Well, Ben was actually about to tell her the entire truth about himself, but trouble interrupted. Talk about bad timing!
my personel favorite (SPOILER) was when that evil old lady got killed by seeing ben's memories
yeah but could you imagine having that happen to you ^
Quote from: eualaia on February 14, 2012, 12:26:59 AM
my personel favorite (SPOILER) was when that evil old lady got killed by seeing ben's memories
Maguda wasn't killed by seeing his memories, she was killed by seeing the angel. That was my favourite part.
Aside from that, I just read
The Angels' Command and it was EPIC!!
so, that "castaways of the flying dutch man'' book. It always reminds me of "pirates of the carribean"for some reason. probably the pirates.
I just started reading Castaways. At first, I tried reading it like it was a book from another author, since it's quite a different story from Redwall, but I soon realized that Mr. Jacques style of writing and colloquialisms are inescapable. Now I've settled into a more familiar habit of actually looking for those sorts of things in the book. It's almost comforting to see little things like that a book that I'm still unsure about.
Also, I know Luis (the shepherd) is a Spaniard, but I can't help but imagine him as looking and sounding exactly like Lloyd Alexander. I honestly have no idea why.
Quote from: Bragoon on February 17, 2012, 09:41:00 PM
I just started reading Castaways. At first, I tried reading it like it was a book from another author, since it's quite a different story from Redwall, but I soon realized that Mr. Jacques style of writing and colloquialisms are inescapable. Now I've settled into a more familiar habit of actually looking for those sorts of things in the book. It's almost comforting to see little things like that a book that I'm still unsure about.
thats what i noticed to but i liked the book. i think what i like about Brian Jacques books is the style of witting
I didn't take the time to read through the whole topic, so this may have already been asked. What kind of dog is it? I haven't gotten to where the dog comes into play, but on the cover of my book there is a black dog that looks like a black lab. I kinda' hope it is. I had a black lab for ten, almost eleven, years!
well how its described ii agree with you i think it is a black lab or at least thats how i imagined it. also i dont have the book for refrence so idk but i think it does say it is a black lab
Ned is a black Labrador Retriever. It says so in several places throughout the series. =)
I finished Voyage of Slaves last night, although I wish I hadn't. Honestly truly, I think I like Castaways better than Redwall. I never thought I'd say that about any series, but Castaways speaks to me on a more personal level than even Redwall does. I loved the whole, sadly short, arc, and there's so much room for imagining how other adventures could have gone on.
I think the ending of Voyage of Slaves was excellent. One thing that I always felt a little irritated about was that Ben always just up and left (not that he had any choice, but still) and it tended to give me a hopeless feeling about the series, but his vision of Serafina was a magnificent way to point out that just like he had been provided for throughout the previous hundred years, he would still be provided for richly in the future.
I agree completely Bragoon.
And while Ben doesn't age, I get the feeling that he wouldn't be forced to wander the earth forever, just until the world is a place where his gifts aren't needed. In that case, Ben and Ned would would indeed be rewarded for their efforts, even if it took thousands of years.
I must have taken the ending of Voyage of Slaves differently to everyone else. When I read it, I thought the angel meant someday Ben and Ned will be allowed to live an ordinary life in some place of their choice. They would start at the age they're at, and then they'd live a normal life until death. Although it probably isn't what Brian Jacques had in mind, I think it is a nice thought (might make a nice fanfiction story...). That's what I liked about the ending, it could be taken in many different ways.
I agree, and I think that's part of what makes it such a good ending, is that it can be taken in several different ways. It's up to the person in question to decide how they would like it to end.
Quote from: mattimouse20 on February 17, 2012, 07:24:38 PM
so, that "castaways of the flying dutch man'' book. It always reminds me of "pirates of the carribean"for some reason. probably the pirates.
It could be because of the Flying Dutchman itself. In Pirates of the Carribean 2, Dead Man's Chest, then you see Davy Jones, captain of the Flying Dutchman, ghost ship that ferries the souls of the dead to the underworld. ;)
To be honest, I don't really like Pirates of the Caribbean. I've watched the first two, and I just can't see the appeal in it. Some people I know admit that they really only like it because of Johnny Depp's role, which I find more understandable, but the story of the movies themselves just never hit me as particularly good.
Ben and Ned dying: Here's how I imagine it going down.
1. They get killed, shot at, bombed, trying to help someone, ect.
2. Sun exploding.
3. Beginning to age (Which would be sad because Ned would die first?).
4. Sudden Death. (Suddenly appear in heaven)
5. They don't die, they simply get raised into heaven.
Personally, and I've begun a fanfiction for the idea, I like to think that either 2 or 5 happens. In the story, 2 happens and Ben goes through Heaven like in the book The Five People You Meet in Heaven. Then at the end, since time won't matter anymore, Ben and Ned can be a person for all the people they've helped in the past, thus getting to explain to all of their friends why they had to leave.
In my view, they would continue working until the Second Coming.
Well, the Dutchman was cursed until the end of time. Its suggested that time will end... :o
Right, the Second Coming when Jesus Christ takes those he's saved to the new heaven and new earth, meaning the end of our conventional time.
That is the only part in the books that I do not like is all the religious things about it.
I think it's one of the best parts of the books, despite the fact that I disagree with a good deal of the nitty-gritty details. I'm willing to overlook it, considering there are few glaring theological problems, and no major ones that I can bring to mind quickly.
I suppose it depends on your religious beliefs, but I think it's a healthy dose of reality that some people could use.
I think without the religious overtone, the story wouldn't make much sense without diving into mythology, magic or something of that nature. Mr. Jacques chose religion instead.
It a great book but it is just kind of weird. I am glad that there was no magic involved and stuff, that is the only reason I don't like Lord of the Rings.
The story has a lot of Christian overtones, but that's how the legend of the Flying Dutchman goes.
After the first book, it doesn't really talk about religion too much, but instead focuses on good and evil.
I noticed that and was a little glad. I if only my dog was like Ned.
I have the book but I haven't read it yet
Read it! This is (almost) the best series ever!
NO WAY!!! Redwall CAN'T be beat by anything! (except possibly Bryan Davis or The Guardians of Ga'Hoole)
( almost)
iT IS WONDERFUL
It have to do this media presentation for English on verbs and My two characters names are Ben and Ned. ;D
Brian sure does love riddles
Oh great is ned going to be a dog or a boy
I love the series :D
I was watching a movie and they mention cape horn and my bro goes:"is that?-" and I go:"yep". ;D
Yep?
he meant was cape horn in cotfd
one of my favorite series of all time. I love these books, perhaps even more than redwall series. I just wish there were more :-\
Quote from: Bragoon on March 23, 2012, 10:14:04 PM
I think it's one of the best parts of the books, despite the fact that I disagree with a good deal of the nitty-gritty details. I'm willing to overlook it, considering there are few glaring theological problems, and no major ones that I can bring to mind quickly.
I suppose it depends on your religious beliefs, but I think it's a healthy dose of reality that some people could use.
Well, the books place forth a very Catholic idea of justice and theology, so Brian was probably using that most ancient of writing axioms: "Write who and what you know'.
Is the serie good? And what is the summary?
QuoteThe story starts by vaguely introducing a fourteen-year-old nameless boy, who at the beginning has no parents and is a mute. He is apparently running away from his life as an abused orphan, and accidentally slips on the Flying Dutchman as a stowaway. He is found, and made to work with the cook, Petros, an antagonistic character who abuses him. Petros names the boy Neb, which is short for Nebuchadnezzar. One day, while the crew is off drinking in the port town of Esbjerg, a dog wanders onto the ship and is befriended by Neb. He names the dog Denmark, after the country he found the dog in. They strike up an immediate friendship.
That's the first part. I'm not showing any more.
Sound good. I migh buy it.
It's a great book you definetly should read it
you should read it its like Mr. Brian's style of wirting but with a different plot
And it has people, not animals, and each book has the same main characters, rather than new ones every book
I just started Voyage of Slaves.
That's the last one right?
Correct The order is Castaways, Angel's Command, and Voyage of Slaves.
I really liked voyage of slaves,
Spoiler
exept I cried when serefina died :'(
MOD EDIT: I think there are a couple here that don't want to know that until they've finished the book. Tiria just said she's reading it now. ;)
An amazing series, I liked just as much as redwall (as in the series, not just the book)
Quote from: Felldoh154 on July 04, 2012, 07:15:14 PM
one of my favorite series of all time. I love these books, perhaps even more than redwall series. I just wish there were more :-\
Blasphemy! :P
:D JK
I own the first book,... But I just can't pick it up. :-\
You should. They are good it's kinda like Redwall except with people. It has the same style of Redwall though
Of course it does! Brian wrote it! It's sehr gut, but in my opinion, it can't compare with Redwall.
I think there such good books!
I think the series is better than Redwall.
Juzt finizhed part 1. Pretty intereztin'.
I don't think Jacques "No Offense Please!" should have made Serafina and Captain Thuron die.
I don't think you can really compare Redwall and the Castaways.... They're both so similar and yet so different. I love the Brian Jacques style and I think he writes about people just as well as he does about animals.
The first book was really good, I'm going to read the second and third after I finish the second Seekers book.
would you guys recomend me reading these books?
Ah'd recomend any of his workz.
I like the castaways better than redwall.
Quote from: PrimroseWarrior on October 20, 2012, 03:43:24 AM
I like the castaways better than redwall.
I agree with this simply because Castaways didn't get into the predictable formula that Redwall did. Ben and Ned could basically traverse the world at different times, so there were always different plot lines to take. That made them far more interesting. :)
Finished reading Voyage of Slaves yesterday. I really liked the whole trilogy, but I'm not going to compare it to Redwall, because they are totally different books.
I wonder if Brian meant to write another Castaways book and never got around to it, or meant for VOS to be the last one.
I think he wanted to keep it a trilogy, why I'm not sure..
You would the think the ending of VOS was meant to the end entirely. However, I think if he did write another book after that, you'd get a lot of references to the past and maybe Ben longing for the past. ;) Not really interested in reading a teenage melodrama.
I feel as if this series never really ends, which is why I like it so much. I'm sure that Brian meant to write another one, or already had a manuscript done, but never got around to it.
Quote from: Castaway5 on January 24, 2013, 04:49:09 PM
I feel as if this series never really ends, which is why I like it so much. I'm sure that Brian meant to write another one, or already had a manuscript done, but never got around to it.
That's an interesting idea. But do you think his family would've released it?
I just finished Voyage of Slaves also. It was really good! However,
Spoiler
Serafina's death was really sad, especially because Ben was about to tell her the truth. She would have believed him, I know it! :'(
Hence, that too can be seen as the angel's curse on Ben and Ned. ;)
I havn't read them yet, but I hear that they're awsome!
I think you'll find it worth reading. :) The books can all be bought cheap from Amazon's marketplace if your library does not carry the three books. $4 each with shipping if you buy a used copy going for a penny.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_17?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=castaways+of+the+flying+dutchman&sprefix=castaways+of+the+%2Caps%2C276
:(Often when an author dies, someone attempts to finish the series. Jacques death has consigned the hero and his dog to an eternity of wandering. Had he lived I think Jacques would have done better by them thru some means-maybe even a "judgement day" that would free them to age and die. Any hope of another book?????
Not that I know of, unfortunately
Quote from: sabretache5611 on July 10, 2011, 03:13:08 AM
I didn't like the first book especially, but the last two blew me off my feet and into shark infested waters (reference to Voyage of the Slaves). I found Voyage of the Slaves to have a sadder ending than the other two. i mean, poor Ben.
I WISH BJ TOLD US OR MANAGED TO TELL US WHAT HAPPENED TO BEN AND NED IN THE END!!!!!!
Me too. My favorite was Angel 's Command.
Quote from: Captain Tammo on August 24, 2011, 01:28:03 AM
Well to an extent yes. After the third story, that's when Ben and Ned go to Chapelvale. So technically, the sequence if events is:
Book 1: The ship
Book 1: The Shepard
All of book 2
All of book 3
Book 1: The village
And did anyone else know that Brian was approached by STEVEN SPIELBERG to
make a movie of the castaways of the flying Dutchman and Brian turned him down because he wanted kids to read instead!?!??
I knew that. I wish they made a movie of it.
I was just thinking about what a movie about the castaways of the Flying Dutchman would be like, it'd be pretty sweet with someone like Spielberg on it, but do you think it'd stay true to the books?
Ah doubt it.
The only book of this series I've read is, I think, The Angel's Command. I thought it was good, but not a patch on Redwall, which seems to be the thing with some authors: they do a great series, try something new and then it's not quite so enticing.
I disagree. I thought the trilogy of The Castaways of the Flying Dutchman was spectacular! Give the other books a chance and then tell us if you feel the same ;)
I loved Castaways of the Flying Dutchman! It's one of my favorite series.
*400th post in this board*
I'll try and seek more out if I can get to any car boot sales or charity shops, then. :)
amazon.com always has them for cheap.
http://www.amazon.com/Castaways-Flying-Dutchman-Brian-Jacques/dp/0142501182/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1375450724&sr=1-1&keywords=castaways+of+the+flying+dutchman
http://www.amazon.com/Voyage-Slaves-Castaways-Flying-Dutchman/dp/044101528X/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1375450724&sr=1-2&keywords=castaways+of+the+flying+dutchman
http://www.amazon.com/Angels-Command-Castaways-Flying-Dutchman/dp/0142402850/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1375450724&sr=1-3&keywords=castaways+of+the+flying+dutchman
Used copies for $.01, with shipping comes to $4 a book. :)
^ Oh yeah, I forgot about getting them cheap on the internet... duh me!
Thanks for letting me know!:)
Whether you like the sea or not, the stories of Ben and Ned are filled with all the witty banter, mystery and life lessons you find in the Redwall series.
I HIGHLY recommend the Angel's Command books.
Like all of Brian Jacques stories, we have read them over and over.
Quote from: Gonff on July 12, 2011, 01:56:24 PM
I'm trying to get them from my library can anyone tell me the names of the 3 books in order?
Castaways of the Flying Dutchman
Angel's Command
Voyage of Slaves
The Castaways series has Ned, the dog.
He is our favorite character, witty, wise and loves a good ear scratch.
Quote from: OtterMom on September 15, 2013, 03:16:16 AM
Quote from: Gonff on July 12, 2011, 01:56:24 PM
I'm trying to get them from my library can anyone tell me the names of the 3 books in order?
Castaways of the Flying Dutchman
Angel's Command
Voyage of Slaves
Those are in order
Should I read this? Sounds cool
Is it scary like The Ribbajack is?
Yes it's not scary at all. It's more like Redwall adventure but with humans.
Quote from: redwallgurl on November 07, 2013, 12:08:22 AM
Yes it's not scary at all. It's more like Redwall adventure but with humans.
Then it must be good!
Found a great poem about the Flying Dutchman.
See you, beneath yon cloud so dark, Fast gliding along, a gloomy bark? Her sails are full, though the wind is still, And there blows not a breath her sails to fill! Oh! what doth that vessel of darkness bear? The silent calm of the grave is there, Save now and again a death-knell rung, And the flap of the sails, with night-fog hung! There lieth a wreck on the dismal shore Of? cold and pitiless Labrador; Where, under the moon, upon mounts of frost, Full many a mariner's bones are tost!
Yay! Two days ago I bought the Castaways series, and am just waiting for it to arrive!
Love the voyage of slaves! And the song......Bellaraga the one that a wed....
Re-reading them...Again...For a long time, I wouldn't touch them. I was afraid they wouldn't be as good as the Redwall books, and then the small pedestal I have Brian would get tarnished, and fall to the ground.....(Don't judge me.) But now? I love em!
I think I may give them a re-read myself. I thought the whole series was absolutely fantastic! And the best part was it never got old or boring for me. I felt that the whole thing was of very high quality (of course, this is Brian Jacques we're talking about, so I suppose that's nothing new) and was a very dynamic trilogy
I just reread them. I am gaining a new appreciation of Mr. Jacques' clean, entertaining style. It's like a breath of fresh air. Aaaaah.