Poll
Question:
Do you find Abbot Mortimer's peacefulness good or annoying?
Option 1: Great; he is wise to seek peace.
votes: 10
Option 2: Annoying; he is too over protective and peace-obsessed.
votes: 16
Personally, I find Abbot Mortimer really annoying.
Rather annoying, I'll have to admit.
Well, you have to keep in mind that the Abbey of Redwall was a peaceful establishment. Martin built it for peace, and the only reason they fought was to defend and to keep the peace.
He was ok I guess... Assuming Cluny would give up on Redwall was rather a big misjudgement though...
I didn't like him personally. He was too, anti-war? Now as Leatho said though, Redwall was a peaceful establishment so it wasn't meant for war though I did feel he wouldn't let them take action against the foe.
Despite all the comments, the vote seems to be going on the first option...
Not now. I just voted ;D
IS Abbot Mortimer a hippie or a peace-loving maniac? ;D
A maniatic hippie. :P
I don't think Mortimer being a pacifist makes him that annoying. But personally, I wouldn't have minded if the book included that scene from the TV series where he takes part in the battle, but is apologizing as he does so. ;)
Can I vote both. ;D
Quote from: General Ironbeak on December 24, 2013, 12:25:49 AM
I don't think Mortimer being a pacifist makes him that annoying. But personally, I wouldn't have minded if the book included that scene from the TV series where he takes part in the battle, but is apologizing as he does so. ;)
That was a funny scene.... ;D
*bang*
I'm Sorry!
*bang
Bless you!
Quote from: Tam and Martin on December 30, 2013, 03:28:45 PM
Quote from: General Ironbeak on December 24, 2013, 12:25:49 AM
I don't think Mortimer being a pacifist makes him that annoying. But personally, I wouldn't have minded if the book included that scene from the TV series where he takes part in the battle, but is apologizing as he does so. ;)
That was a funny scene.... ;D
*bang*
I'm Sorry!
*bang
Bless you!
Did he really? I'm SO watching more Redwall tonight!!
Quote from: Cornflower MM on December 30, 2013, 08:31:42 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on December 30, 2013, 03:28:45 PM
Quote from: General Ironbeak on December 24, 2013, 12:25:49 AM
I don't think Mortimer being a pacifist makes him that annoying. But personally, I wouldn't have minded if the book included that scene from the TV series where he takes part in the battle, but is apologizing as he does so. ;)
That was a funny scene.... ;D
*bang*
I'm Sorry!
*bang
Bless you!
Did he really? I'm SO watching more Redwall tonight!!
You should. ;D
That part's my favorite
I know! He was hilarious.
I said annoying. He was good character, but peace was all he thought about, never self defense.
I didn't answer because he was wise to seek peace in the beginning, but to still seek peace when Redwall was being attacked and when Cluney clearly didn't want peace was foolish and annoying.
Quote from: PluggFiretail on January 03, 2014, 05:25:02 PM
I didn't answer because he was wise to seek peace in the beginning, but to still seek peace when Redwall was being attacked and when Cluney clearly didn't want peace was foolish and annoying.
I am agreed with that. Mortimer wanting Redwall to be a peaceful establishment was not wrong of him but when he was faced with battle and had no other but to fight back, and when he didn't fight back, I found him annoying.
Annoying
annoying
This thread triggers me but I'll stay calm. Abbot Mortimer is one of my favorite all time characters in the series. I didn't find him annoying, I found him very respectable and interesting. His peace loving and Matthias's war need clashed really well and interested me immensely.
God it was hard to keep calm!
Honestly, I think it was great that Abbot Mortimer loved peace so much, and would do anything to keep it. But I have to say, his choices would sometimes annoy me as a reader, because as a reader I could tell that Cluny was probably not going to change, and that beasts would end up paying dearly if he was allowed to live.
Quote from: Sebias of Redwall on May 28, 2020, 02:06:17 AM
Honestly, I think it was great that Abbot Mortimer loved peace so much, and would do anything to keep it. But I have to say, his choices would sometimes annoy me as a reader, because as a reader I could tell that Cluny was probably not going to change, and that beasts would end up paying dearly if he was allowed to live.
For a second, I thought you were talking about me! :D I can see where you're coming from. Some of his choices weren't smart and I could see how they could be annoying to people. I was like that when I first read redwall. But I like how his choices fill in to the plot.
Wait, you thought I was saying you were annoying? Good gracious no!
Quote from: clunylooney on May 28, 2020, 02:17:09 PM
Quote from: Sebias of Redwall on May 28, 2020, 02:06:17 AM
Honestly, I think it was great that Abbot Mortimer loved peace so much, and would do anything to keep it. But I have to say, his choices would sometimes annoy me as a reader, because as a reader I could tell that Cluny was probably not going to change, and that beasts would end up paying dearly if he was allowed to live.
For a second, I thought you were talking about me! :D I can see where you're coming from. Some of his choices weren't smart and I could see how they could be annoying to people. I was like that when I first read redwall. But I like how his choices fill in to the plot.
Yes! I most definitely agree with you about how his choices fit in the plot. That goes for a lot of things. I might find certain individual characters annoying, but absolutely love them for plot-related purposes. I did like Mortimer a lot, though.
Spoiler
And was quite sad when he died.
Also, why does peace-loving hippie = annoying on this post?
I'm... actually not sure. Good question.