Martin to Matthias

Started by BadgerLordFiredrake, January 14, 2012, 03:04:13 PM

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BadgerLordFiredrake

I'm pretty sure that Matthias is related to Martin directly.  Who are the missing generations?
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Skipper

well matthias did have a sister but she died, martin had no children, i dont think they were related anyway, matthias was born a hero and he is is like martin -his role model-

Bragoon

Like Skipper said, they can't be, since Martin had no children, and Luke only had one child. 

It just seems to be another case of Martin's spirit intervening to help a beast realize their true potential as a warrior. 
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Melody

But he could be indirectly related what if Luke had another sibling or something?
But I do agree Matthias and Martin are not Related by blood but by spirit.

Tiria Wildlough

Quote from: Skipper on January 14, 2012, 03:15:18 PM
well matthias did have a sister but she died...
That was only in the cartoon, if I remember correctly.
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Skipper

you're probably right, i haven't read 'redwall' in abit

BadgerLordFiredrake

On the wiki's family trees it said that...
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Bragoon

I only see the books as canon, so for all I know Matthias could have had ten sisters like Jube, since they found him when he was a baby. 
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BadgerLordFiredrake

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Melody

the truth is we will never know. 8)

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Nightfire

I think that Redwall makes it clear that Matthias is a random mouse. If you look at mice in real life, then aside from fur color, then they all look identical, unless one had a scar or deformity. Matthias just looked similar to Martin, he wasn't identical. And I think Redwall also makes it very clear that Martin's spirit inhabited Matthias at the Battle of the Late Rose, then he left and Matthias acted like himself again. Every now and then, Matthias was inhabited by Martin's spirit.
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Lutra

Mice generally look like...mice, not much different.  Same was said of Watership Down...basically its a group of rabbits that look a whole lot alike.  Its probably no surprise Matthias looks like Martin, but as far as the book is concerned, Matthias was an orphan and taken in by the abbey.  I can't see a relative of Martin not living at Redwall during its construction.
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redwallgurl

id ont remember them saying that martin had a wife so i dont thin kthat they could be related. as they say in other books though martin the warriors spirit is how they can be connected right?
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