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Brian Jacques' Works (Spoilers) => Character Discussion => Topic started by: rachel25 on July 28, 2013, 03:59:55 PM

Poll
Question: was Romsca in love with  Barranca
Option 1: yes votes: 2
Option 2: no votes: 9
Option 3: maybe votes: 12
Title: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: rachel25 on July 28, 2013, 03:59:55 PM
was Romsca in love with  Barranca I'm not sure it's been a long time since I read Pearls of Lutra so I'll have to go back and check   :)
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: BadgerLordFiredrake on July 28, 2013, 04:02:47 PM
Recently finished it, so I'd say perhaps, but probably not... she just admired him.
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: rachel25 on July 28, 2013, 04:04:04 PM
OK
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: Redwaller on July 28, 2013, 04:04:42 PM
Probably not. Romsca did not show much affection to anybody.
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: BadgerLordFiredrake on July 28, 2013, 04:07:51 PM
Quote from: Redwaller on July 28, 2013, 04:04:42 PM
Probably not. Romsca did not show much affection to anybody.
Viola and Durral?
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: rachel25 on July 28, 2013, 04:08:56 PM
Um I'm going to have to read the book now bye  :-*
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: Romsca on July 28, 2013, 04:42:29 PM
Quote from: BadgerLordFiredrake on July 28, 2013, 04:07:51 PM
Quote from: Redwaller on July 28, 2013, 04:04:42 PM
Probably not. Romsca did not show much affection to anybody.
Viola and Durral?

Not in that way! :-X

It wasn't actually in the book, but it's been one of those I've thought about for so long I've just kinda accepted as fact
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: BadgerLordFiredrake on July 28, 2013, 04:54:52 PM
Quote from: Romsca on July 28, 2013, 04:42:29 PM
Quote from: BadgerLordFiredrake on July 28, 2013, 04:07:51 PM
Quote from: Redwaller on July 28, 2013, 04:04:42 PM
Probably not. Romsca did not show much affection to anybody.
Viola and Durral?

Not in that way! :-X

It wasn't actually in the book, but it's been one of those I've thought about for so long I've just kinda accepted as fact
Not sure what you mean, but I mean she was nice to them, showing affection.  Don't forget when she died...
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: Romsca on July 28, 2013, 04:55:37 PM
Well not like she would've liked Barranca
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: Shadowed One on July 28, 2013, 05:35:06 PM
But she was a ferret and he was a stoat. I don't think that Brian would have had them together.
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: Romsca on July 28, 2013, 07:43:29 PM
Ferrets and stoats are related closely enough :D

Do you remember the otter Bragoon in Loamhedge? Do you remember how he disguised himself as a ferroat? (;D!) Was that meant to be a mole and a fox? No! He disguised himself as a cross between a ferret and a stoat, which is very possible IRL!
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: Tam and Martin on July 28, 2013, 08:04:14 PM
I say maybe. I won't say yes because I never really gave the idea much thought. Not impossible though  :)
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: Romsca on July 28, 2013, 09:02:24 PM
Quote from Orinoco in a different topic (Read second paragraph please):

Quote from: Orinoco on December 05, 2012, 10:11:36 PM
The Wearet was very...odd. I could never quite picture him clearly when I read the book. How could he have virtually no neck or ears? Very odd indeed.

As a side note, it is possible for a female ferret to successfully produce offspring with a male stoat, but I'm not sure about a weasel and a ferret. Of course, weasels are very closely related to stoats, so it might have worked.

This is off-topic, but as for Razzid Wearat...I really don't see how he came to be. Weasels and rats aren't even in the same family (Mustelid + Rodent makes absolutely no sense).
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: rachel25 on July 29, 2013, 02:57:44 PM
Quote from: Romsca on July 28, 2013, 09:02:24 PM
Quote from Orinoco in a different topic (Read second paragraph please):

Quote from: Orinoco on December 05, 2012, 10:11:36 PM

As a side note, it is possible for a female ferret to successfully produce offspring with a male stoat, but I'm not sure about a weasel and a ferret. Of course, weasels are very closely related to stoats, so it might have worked.

good point  ;)
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: Vilu Daskar on July 29, 2013, 11:22:20 PM
no
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: rachel25 on July 30, 2013, 05:46:45 PM
Quote from: Vilu Daskar on July 29, 2013, 11:22:20 PM
no

could explain why
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: Captain Tammo on July 31, 2013, 04:46:38 PM
I'm not sure. Brian never really wrote about vermin love like he did "good" creature love. I recall him mentioning it maybe once in a book (sorry, I can't remember which one, there's 22 books it's hard to keep track!). I wouldn't rule it out, but I would also say that there was not enough evidence to support it. Maybe he wanted the reader to decide?
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: rachel25 on August 01, 2013, 08:18:04 PM
Quote from: Captain Tammo on July 31, 2013, 04:46:38 PM
I'm not sure. Brian never really wrote about vermin love like he did "good" creature love. I recall him mentioning it maybe once in a book (sorry, I can't remember which one, there's 22 books it's hard to keep track!). I wouldn't rule it out, but I would also say that there was not enough evidence to support it. Maybe he wanted the reader to decide?
good point  :)
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: Romsca on August 02, 2013, 03:58:17 AM
Quote from: Captain Tammo on July 31, 2013, 04:46:38 PM
I'm not sure. Brian never really wrote about vermin love like he did "good" creature love. I recall him mentioning it maybe once in a book (sorry, I can't remember which one, there's 22 books it's hard to keep track!). I wouldn't rule it out, but I would also say that there was not enough evidence to support it. Maybe he wanted the reader to decide?

That book was probably Outcast of Redwall, Loamhedge, High Rhulain, or The Bellmaker. Those are the only ones I can recall that have vermin couples in them
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: rachel25 on August 03, 2013, 04:58:17 PM
what about Taggerung
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: Romsca on August 05, 2013, 12:30:18 AM
That too
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: The Shade on August 05, 2013, 04:51:21 PM
There's not really anything about vermin when they meet, its always after they have met.  And I havn't seen any true love between vermin. So I think, possibly, but unlikey :P
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: Ungatt Trunn on August 06, 2013, 07:24:48 PM
Quote from: The Shade on August 05, 2013, 04:51:21 PM
There's not really anything about vermin when they meet, its always after they have met.  And I havn't seen any true love between vermin. So I think, possibly, but unlikey :P
Yes, you see allot of vermin have 'Mates', but they never seem to actually show likeness to each other.
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: Mariel on August 08, 2013, 09:36:13 PM
Quote from: Ungatt Trunn on August 06, 2013, 07:24:48 PM
Quote from: The Shade on August 05, 2013, 04:51:21 PM
There's not really anything about vermin when they meet, its always after they have met.  And I havn't seen any true love between vermin. So I think, possibly, but unlikey :P
Yes, you see allot of vermin have 'Mates', but they never seem to actually show likeness to each other.
Yep, most vermin are too fickle to have true love.
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: rachel25 on August 10, 2013, 02:00:50 PM
Gingervera met another wildcat and they fell in love
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: Leatho Shellhound on August 10, 2013, 11:31:44 PM
Quote from: rachel25 on August 10, 2013, 02:00:50 PM
Gingervera met another wildcat and they fell in love

True, her name was Sandingomm.
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: Tam and Martin on August 12, 2013, 11:51:25 AM
Quote from: Leatho Shellhound on August 10, 2013, 11:31:44 PM
Quote from: rachel25 on August 10, 2013, 02:00:50 PM
Gingervera met another wildcat and they fell in love

True, her name was Sandingomm.
But he wasn't a true vermin either.
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: Leatho Shellhound on August 12, 2013, 03:18:40 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on August 12, 2013, 11:51:25 AM
Quote from: Leatho Shellhound on August 10, 2013, 11:31:44 PM
Quote from: rachel25 on August 10, 2013, 02:00:50 PM
Gingervera met another wildcat and they fell in love

True, her name was Sandingomm.
But he wasn't a true vermin either.

He was a wildcat though. And you might say Romsca wasn't a "True vermin". The Point is even if they were on the "good side" they were still vermin.
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: Tam and Martin on August 12, 2013, 05:06:50 PM
Quote from: Leatho Shellhound on August 12, 2013, 03:18:40 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on August 12, 2013, 11:51:25 AM
Quote from: Leatho Shellhound on August 10, 2013, 11:31:44 PM
Quote from: rachel25 on August 10, 2013, 02:00:50 PM
Gingervera met another wildcat and they fell in love

True, her name was Sandingomm.
But he wasn't a true vermin either.

He was a wildcat though. And you might say Romsca wasn't a "True vermin". The Point is even if they were on the "good side" they were still vermin.
Yep that is true. Although most vermin are evil so they probably don't even want to consider a mate but the good ones may have.
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: Maudie on August 12, 2013, 10:46:37 PM
In the Sable Quean there was a vermin who seemed to love her mate, two, in fact. Or at least they cared for them enough to want revenge on their deaths.
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: rachel25 on August 13, 2013, 04:40:20 PM
yeah I remember that
Quote from: Tam and Martin on August 12, 2013, 11:51:25 AM
Quote from: Leatho Shellhound on August 10, 2013, 11:31:44 PM
Quote from: rachel25 on August 10, 2013, 02:00:50 PM
Gingervera met another wildcat and they fell in love

True, her name was Sandingomm.
But he wasn't a true vermin either.
but maybe her family were good vermin
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: Tam and Martin on August 13, 2013, 07:34:39 PM
Quote from: Mask on August 12, 2013, 10:46:37 PM
In the Sable Quean there was a vermin who seemed to love her mate, two, in fact. Or at least they cared for them enough to want revenge on their deaths.
What were their names? Uhh...I can't remember.
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: The Shade on August 14, 2013, 09:23:05 AM
Same.  :P
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: Maudie on August 14, 2013, 05:08:05 PM
Quote from: Tam and Martin on August 13, 2013, 07:34:39 PM
Quote from: Mask on August 12, 2013, 10:46:37 PM
In the Sable Quean there was a vermin who seemed to love her mate, two, in fact. Or at least they cared for them enough to want revenge on their deaths.
What were their names? Uhh...I can't remember.

Letsee, I don't remember their names, but one was Thwip's mate and the other was the one who helped the Sable Quean after Zwilt almost killed her.
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: Jetthebinturong on August 14, 2013, 09:18:01 PM
Binta and Thwip, thanks for giving me Thwip it made me remember
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: Blaggut on August 22, 2013, 06:00:56 PM
This part of the series always confuses me. I know sometimes animals would show affection, such as veil and thingie. But that doesn't make sense because it's against instincts to care for creatures that aren't your race unless they may be useful, like cAveman hunting dogs...
Title: Re: was Romsca in love with Barranca
Post by: clunylooney on May 04, 2020, 04:41:21 PM
No.