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Brian Jacques' Works (Spoilers) => History, Legends and Myths => Topic started by: Jarky Thistlebrush on August 25, 2019, 12:25:01 AM

Title: Redwall's Sentient Fish
Post by: Jarky Thistlebrush on August 25, 2019, 12:25:01 AM
I'm pretty sure the only sentient fish in Redwall was the Snakefish. Why? Any ideas?
Title: Re: Redwall's Sentient Fish
Post by: LordTBT on August 25, 2019, 03:51:39 PM
Mossflower was book 2, and character traits were still being sorted out.
Title: Re: Redwall's Sentient Fish
Post by: Verdauga on August 25, 2019, 09:49:07 PM
@Jarky Thistlebrush  I think it's because some of the animals are carnivorous. That, and Jacques never needed to delve into an aquatic storyline.
Title: Re: Redwall's Sentient Fish
Post by: One-Eye the wildcat on August 25, 2019, 09:50:09 PM
*nods*
Title: Re: Redwall's Sentient Fish
Post by: Jarky Thistlebrush on August 25, 2019, 10:10:45 PM
Quote from: Verdauga on August 25, 2019, 09:49:07 PM
@Jarky Thistlebrush  I think it's because some of the animals are carnivorous. That, and Jacques never needed to delve into an aquatic storyline.

??? Explain further, ole' chap.
Title: Re: Redwall's Sentient Fish
Post by: Verdauga on August 26, 2019, 06:38:25 PM
@Jarky Thistlebrush I haven't checked, but I think badgers are carnivorous, at least. They might not eat fish, but foxes do, as do felines (like wildcats). But on the tack of the storyline, the only fish that could help out the Redwallers' cause was the snakefish. If most of the other fish could not do anything to help, there would be little reason to add characters and dialogue. That's at least my point of view.
Title: Re: Redwall's Sentient Fish
Post by: Jarky Thistlebrush on August 26, 2019, 11:30:24 PM
Hmm...
Title: Re: Redwall's Sentient Fish
Post by: The Skarzs on September 01, 2019, 07:19:53 PM
It may have just been a plot device for that book. And, frankly, I'm glad he was the only sentient fish. That would add some interesting layers of moral problems, since woodlanders eat fish.
Title: Re: Redwall's Sentient Fish
Post by: Kade Rivok on October 21, 2019, 09:56:59 PM
Quote from: The Skarzs on September 01, 2019, 07:19:53 PM
It may have just been a plot device for that book. And, frankly, I'm glad he was the only sentient fish. That would add some interesting layers of moral problems, since woodlanders eat fish.
Yeah, I agree.  That's why vermin were the only ones that really ate eggs and birds as well (except in the beginning of course, the first few books were the wild west of Redwall).  Since it was a known fact that birds were sapient, of course woodlanders wouldn't eat them or their eggs, even if there seemed to be a distinction between sapient and non-sapient birds.  Mr. Jacques knew that it wasn't really appropriate in the context.
Title: Re: Redwall's Sentient Fish
Post by: Sebias of Redwall on October 22, 2019, 08:42:19 PM
Quote from: Kade Rivok on October 21, 2019, 09:56:59 PM
except in the beginning of course, the first few books were the wild west of Redwall
This is one of the best ways that I've ever heard to describe this.  :P