Poll
Question:
which redwall book do you like best?
Option 1: Taggerung
Option 2: Doomwyte
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Chosing is pretty hard but I think that I should say taggerung is just a wee bit better. It had may twists and turns. Not to mension the epic warm quality. Redwall! ;D
Doomwyte. I physically cannot reread Taggerung SPOILER, because of what happens to Cregga at the end. :'( :'(
I liked Taggerung a lot better. For some reason I didn't like Doomwyte as much as the other books
Quote from: Log-a-Log on September 10, 2011, 06:00:55 PM
I liked Taggerung a lot better. For some reason I didn't like Doomwyte as much as the other books
exactly i liked it but i liked Tagerung so much better and i read that before The long patrol oops
Quote from: Log-a-Log on September 10, 2011, 06:00:55 PM
I liked Taggerung a lot better. For some reason I didn't like Doomwyte as much as the other books
Taggerung is a whole lot better than Doomwyte. I personally think that Doomwyte, Eulalia, and the Sable Quean aren't as good as the others. The Rogue Crew was awesome, though.
i loved the sable queen
Taggerung is way better than doomwryte ::)
The sable quean was good, Doomwyte wasn't my favorite, but I liked baliss and the MAIN villain (so ironbeak doesnt count) was a bird which made it interesting. The final fight was amazing. Taggerung didn't really have the end fight I wanted. So they're tied in my mind.
Taggerung flat-out. I didn't care for Doomwyte's characters, really didn't like its villains, seemed boring... I have to admit its final act was stellar, but that wasn't enough to save it. Whereas I LOVE Taggerung's characters, sense of adventure, the interesting and exciting events, getting better as it went on to result in an excellent final act... Taggerung was done perfectly.
please use the poll it is there for a reason
Wha-- but-- they both have hares, how do I pick?!
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.......Taggerung had Cregga, so I pick that. XD
Boorab or Bosie! I love both (being as they are both hare and both musicians). I think I like Bosie better (hey, he's my profile pic). So, Doomwyte.
(http://www.sullivanet.com/redwall/encyc/scans/taggerung/boorab1.jpg)
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081125190853/redwall/images/thumb/f/fd/Lairdbosie.jpg/250px-Lairdbosie.jpg)
I mean, how noble and cute is that? ^^^
Well okay, Doomwyte did have a better illustrator and art, no debate there. Bosie looks great. Boorab... well, unusually he's one of the few hares in the series I hated.
I wonder how Taggerung and Doomwyte were both misspelled in the topic title, yet spelled correctly in posts and the poll. Just bugs me when there's blatant errors that suggest people don't proofread or spell check.
Doomwyte is pretty cool.
Quote from: Folgrimeo on September 12, 2011, 08:01:01 PM
Well okay, Doomwyte did have a better illustrator and art, no debate there. Bosie looks great. Boorab... well, unusually he's one of the few hares in the series I hated.
I wonder how Taggerung and Doomwyte were both misspelled in the topic title, yet spelled correctly in posts and the poll. Just bugs me when there's blatant errors that suggest people don't proofread or spell check.
sorry i am still young enough to make mistakes Folgrim!
That's okay, just ignore the negative people. :) You can always change the title of the topic, if you go back and edit your very first post. Folgrimeo, it would also help if you were a little less negative with the younger element.
And as for the two books, well...I liked Doomwyt, because of the Gonfelins and just the general amount of awesome Gonff-ness, but I have to say that Taggerung is the better of the two books. I mean come on, how epic is it when -SPOILER ALERT!- and otter is raised from infancy to be a vermin, and yet somehow he still remains a goodbeast throughout his life. I think that the general storyline in Taggerung is better. I also regret to say this about something that Mr. Jacques wrote but...I think that the plot in Doomwyte needed to be a little better.
Nightfire, Folgrimeo was pointing out he didn't like the fact the topic was misspelled so inconsistently. And the problem is over with.
And out of curiosity, did you purposefully go and misspell the book titles yourself?
I personally choose Taggerung. Doomwyte is a very good book, but it lacks the tone of adventure that I loved in Taggerung.
Sorry for overreacting, misspellings that look intentional or careless drive me up a wall for some reason. I didn't mean to come across as attacking, that's not the kind of person I want to be.
Just recalled that Doomwyte had Tugga Bruster in it. He was an interesting character for how unlikable he made himself, which is unusual for a shrew (let alone a goodbeast) in the Redwall series. Also liked the idea of Jeg having a mother, you almost never hear of vermin having family. Anything that gives vermin an added bit of complexity is very welcome given the series is quite powerful when it can make me sympathize with a vermin.
I haven't reada Doomwyte in ages, but I know I don't like Taggerung, not just because SPOILER Cregga dies, but also because it doesn't have much action, and because there is not really a main villain. :(
Therefore, I voted for Doomwyte. :)
Quote from: Folgrimeo on September 12, 2011, 08:01:01 PM
Well okay, Doomwyte did have a better illustrator and art, no debate there. Bosie looks great. Boorab... well, unusually he's one of the few hares in the series I hated.
*Sighs* (I love alla hares)
Anyways, I was just pointing out the I always picture Boorab as a fool, since he is called "Boorab the Fool". Whereas Bosie, I picture him as more of a polite and noble gentlemen. Plus to compare instruments, I find the Bowlaynee a ton more majestic. *sighs again* Oh how I've come to like Bosie!
I loved Boorab's hardee gurdee
I can't like Taggerung, however hard I try, but I do like Boorab. His first meeting with Cregga was so funny.
Quote'Oh corks! Oh crumbs! Marm, oh marm! You must be Lady Cregga Rose Eyes, the wild-eyed warrior queen, the belle of the blinkin' Bloodwrath, the kill--'
Hahahaha. I laugh, or at least giggle, every time I think of that. :D :D
I'm about half way through Doomwyte, and I really can't say I'm enjoying it much. Taggerung, I thought, was pretty good. I agree with Folgrimeo that the art in Doomwyte is much better than the illustrations in Taggerung, though. David Elliot is an amazing artist. I don't know how he does it...
but Taggerung is awesome and i found Doomwyte boring
QuoteSorry for overreacting, misspellings that look intentional or careless drive me up a wall for some reason. I didn't mean to come across as attacking, that's not the kind of person I want to be.Quote
that is perfectly fine sorry i misspelled it :) :) :) :) forgive me for overreacting :( :(
easily taggerung it was my first redwall book read it about 15 times never gets old
I assume you meant to say that Taggerung was your first Redwall book, not the first Redwall book; it's actually the fourteenth book in the series.
The last redwall book was really good, don't get me wrong. But I seem to notice that the redwall books get slightly worse as time goes by. The first like 7 where awesome, the next few were slightly not as awesome, but still awesome, and so on.
Quote from: Mad Maudie on September 10, 2011, 01:17:02 AM
TAAAAAAAAAAGEEEEEEEEEErUUUUUUUUUUUNGGGGGGGGG :o
wid ye wid that one matey
QuoteJust recalled that Doomwyte had Tugga Bruster in it. He was an interesting character for how unlikable he made himself, which is unusual for a shrew (let alone a goodbeast) in the Redwall series. Also liked the idea of Jeg having a mother, you almost never hear of vermin having family. Anything that gives vermin an added bit of complexity is very welcome given the series is quite powerful when it can make me sympathize with a vermin.
Tugga Bruster wasn't really evil like some people I know say. He was harsh to vermin, killing them while they were surrendering. He actually shows Brians take on vermin being black and woodlanders being white. Why keep vermin alive, their vermin, their
evil. I don't agree with it but it's the truth. He steals one of the Doomwyte jewels because he lost face in a insult contest. I wouldn't clasify him as evil.
I have only read Doomwyte and it was really good.
Then read tethering!
I can't decide, to me, both had their good qualities.
I have to make sure I come back when I mae up my mind and run through both stories thouroughly. :)
Taggerung is better, in fact Taggerung, The Bellmaker, and Marlfox I believe are the best books in the series.
oh lord.....its hard to compare to books :-[ i'm not gonna choose a favorite becuase they each brought individual things to the table. I can't determine if one is simply "better" then another.
Hard decision...I liked them both! I think I'll have to pick Taggerung, but there were lots of things I loved about Doomwyte, as well.
I had to say Doomwyte here... It just simply had better plot design, and much more ingenuity. Nothing against Taggerung though. :)
Taggerung. The only thing I don't like about Taggerung is the ending...I wanted a huge epic battle D:
I know right? I wonder why Brian didn't add a battle in that book.
taggerung is the BEST REDWALL BOOK EVER! er... taggerung and a few others.... as this poll clearly shows.
Quote from: rusvulthesaber on August 21, 2012, 06:43:53 PM
taggerung is the BEST REDWALL BOOK EVER! er... taggerung and a few others.... as this poll clearly shows.
I say Mossflower is the best one ever. I immediately knew I was in for something great after I finished chapter one when I was first reading it from my library.
Hmph, doesn't even come close to the best! Rilflag
Spoiler
DIES!
I personally reall like Marlfox, and Salamandastron.
oh! thats my other favorite i couldnt remember! taggerung and marlfox! (how awesome would it be if deyna and (non power-drunk) mokkan fought!
Meh... Dannflower is better than Tagg. :P ;D
Quote from: danflorreguba on August 22, 2012, 03:38:29 PM
Meh... Dannflower is better than Tagg. :P ;D
True...Tagg couldn't scare a fly!
Quote from: Tiria Wildlough on August 30, 2012, 01:19:40 AM
Quote from: danflorreguba on August 22, 2012, 03:38:29 PM
Meh... Dannflower is better than Tagg. :P ;D
True...Tagg couldn't scare a fly!
Hey, I liked Tagg! His alter ego Deyna is kind of boring but as Tagg he's cool.
I like Deyna better than Tagg for a few reasons, One, it's a much cooler name ( ;D) two Deyna is happy where as Tagg is confused. Three, Deyna lives at Redwall instead of running with an evil vermin horde. Four, Deyna has a nice family instead of jumped up vermin with knives. :)
P.S. But Dannflower is still better! ;D (I WOULD say that wouldn't I? :D)
I just thought that the tattoos were cool. I want to get temporary tattoos that look like Tagg's.
I like both of these books they are in fact sensational. ;D but I really like taggarung because it's so different 8). I'm in fact only finishing doomwyte and I think it's brilliant. ;)
Doomwyte!!!
Aye!
Doomwyte!
Taggerung! The Juska are cool! 8)
Doomwyte again!
my favorite part about doomwyte was how the gonffers were finally accepted as family among the redwallers instead of thieves.
Evil post, stretches the screen
Doomwyte is definautly better!
Taggerung
Ooooh this is a very very hard choice.
Personally I find all books after Loamhedge to be a little weaker than those before, HOWEVER for me Doomwyte has an excellent story which stands out from the books around it (in chronological order). The plot is refreshing and well woven.
BUT, Taggerung has Cregga and Boorab... And her final scene is one of the most memorable and touching things I've ever read.
Hmm... I can't decide!
Quote from: curunen on July 24, 2013, 12:33:27 AM
BUT, Taggerung has Cregga and Boorab... And her final scene is one of the most memorable and touching things I've ever read.
Yeah--same here. That scene has brought me to tears on more than one occasion.
HOW CAN TAGGERUNG BE MORE THAN DOOMWYTE!
Easily because its better oh and for Doomwyte fans out there I have something I need to say that my brother said about Doomwyte he said that He thinks Brian Jacques had lost is edge and was out of ideas when he wrote it I know hit my Brother NOW!
Taggerung is in the lead still...
Well I've gone with Taggerung.
Doomwyte is an excellent book, but I cannot vote for it simply because character names are better in Taggerung.
I LOVE TAGGERUNG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't really like either of them, but Doomwyte had more tolerable characters and a more exciting plot;sometimes Taggerung/Denya seemed like a (forgive me) baby, he would kill for almost nothing >:(
Quote from: Mariel on July 26, 2013, 10:25:22 PM
I don't really like either of them, but Doomwyte had more tolerable characters and a more exciting plot;sometimes Taggerung/Denya seemed like a (forgive me) baby, he would kill for almost nothing >:(
I agree. *angry fans kill me*
Quote from: Tam and Martin on July 26, 2013, 10:38:39 PM
Quote from: Mariel on July 26, 2013, 10:25:22 PM
I don't really like either of them, but Doomwyte had more tolerable characters and a more exciting plot;sometimes Taggerung/Denya seemed like a (forgive me) baby, he would kill for almost nothing >:(
I agree. *angry fans kill me*
I'm definitely a Deyna fan, although I hope this doesn't come across at all like I want to kill you, heh. Now, I might be completely forgetting some important details, but at the moment, I can't think of anyone he just offs for no reason.
In fact, I'm thinking quite the opposite. He refuses to kill Felch because he knew Felch didn't deserve it. And then, in that moment, when he decides to break apart from the Juskarath clan, he doesn't take out any rage on anyone. He saves Felch's life (for the third time) by breaking Vallug's bowstring, he tells Sawney Rath they'll never see each other again, and then he simply leaves.
And then, when a bunch of vermin go off chasing him, and he finally comes face to face with one (Ribrow), he not only has no intention of killing him, but he expresses a mixture of shock and grief when he finds out the next day that the band of pygmy shrews he and Nimbalo were staying with
had gone ahead and killed Ribrow.
Add to this his non-lethal way of saving himself from Madd, or disarming Krobzy, or his constant patience during his time in the clan with Gruven's attempts to challenge his position, or his attempt to keep peace with Ruggan Bor when the fox's vermin horde comes to Redwall, or even the delicate way he reacts to Nimbalo's childhood traumas, or the way he makes sure that Nimbalo doesn't accidentally offend Ruskem, or the polite conversation he manages to maintain with the beasts at Redwall who had mistakenly locked him up (until he hears that his father's killer is waiting outside the doors, of course), and I feel like Deyna is actually one of the most level-headed warriors throughout the entire series.
Perhaps, as I said, I'm missing something? Who does he kill? Vallug--his father's killer, and one of two vermin threatening Redwall Abbey. Yo Karr--the monster who the Pygmy shrews were pointlessly sacrificing members of their own families to. And then Eefera. This is the only vermin I have slight trouble with understanding. He
was was the other of the two vermin threatening Redwall, and he had been trying to kill Deyna since the moment Deyna left the clan. But I suppose that once he started running away from Deyna, an argument might be made that Deyna could have let him go. ...At the same time, Deyna had to figure that Eefera would continue hounding him for the rest of his life if he was given the chance to live.
When does he kill for almost nothing?
The more I think about it, the more I realise how much I like The Taggerung. I forgot Broggle and Fwirl are also in it. And then you've got Boorab and Cregga...
Definitely the better book overall.
I do agree that Doomwyte has one of the most unpredictable stories in the entire series.
Please forgive me but I got a bite bored with Doomwyte I like it but after a while I was just waiting for the story to get going I wanted some more battles but I would like to read it again but it's the only Redwall book I don't own so I can't
When I was reading Taggerung for the first time I couldn't put it down I finished it in two days I just had to find out what would happen next and I've reread it three times so Taggerung gets my vote against anything :)
Ah like av o' zem!
Huh? ???
Ok I just couldn't read it :-[
oh I could read that ;D