Redwall Abbey

I guess y'all pretty well know the drill at this point!

The basic roles, as usual, are Mafia, Detective, and Doctor. In this game, the Doctor cannot heal themselves. Extra roles will be determined, listed and explained before the game starts, but after a sizable number of y'all have registered. Given the popularity of the Lovers role in previous games, I will give that particular consideration when I decide what to use. When I pass out roles to begin the game, they will be determined by RNG.

I haven't decided on the plot yet, but I'll get back to y'all as soon as I have worked that out. I intend to do my best to provide ample evidence in the stories, as in an actual mystery story, to try to give you some grounds to work on besides personality judgements.

Signup below:

1) Delthion - Goon
2) Gonff the Mousethief - Town Citizen
3) Soren - Role Cop
4) Groddil - Goon
5) Eulaliaaa Town Anti-Blue Doctor
6) Skyblade - Roleblocker
7) Aimless Gallivanter Town Anti-Blue Stalker
8) Fatch of Southsward Town 1-Shot Blue-Finding Detective
9) Lord Ashenwyte Town 1-Shot Red-Finding Detective
10) Rosie Willowwater - Goon
11) Sagetip - Town Anti-Red Jailkeeper
12) Peony - Town Citizen
13) Jet the binturong Town Citizen
14) Chipster of Noonvale - Goon
15) Lord Daskar Town Citizen
16)
...)

15 members
5 players
3 Red Mafia left
0 Blue Mafia left

I'm signing-up!

Add me please, Mr. James

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Sign me right up.

*Breaks through the door with a machete* Heeeeeere's Euly!

I'm in.

sign me up please!

I'm in.

As a fairly addicted Mafia player, I do have a few roles you could incorporate. It's really up to you.

1 - Lookout : the lookout chooses one person to watch each night. If anyone visits that person they will know. They won't know that person's role.

For example, if I visited Peony and I'm Doctor, and Soren visited her and he's Mafia - the lookout will know that Soren and I visited Peony - but he won't know who is who. Lookouts can catch Mafia if only one person visits and the person dies.

2 - Blackmailer : A third Mafia could be incorporated if we get a lot of players. Blackmailer works with the Mafia, and chooses one person to blackmail each night. That person will not be able to talk or post during that day - when people are voting. It's very useful for keeping a detective quiet...

3 - Framer : An alternate to the blackmailer. This role chooses one person each night to frame. If the detective investigates the person who was framed, the host will tell the detective that person is Mafia, causing the detective to get confused and possibly hang the wrong person

If both Mafia die and either of these two remain, the game is over and town wins

3 - Jester : Jesters want to be hanged by the town. If they trick the town into lynching them - the jester wins. The only problem is - it can make games pretty short of the Jester is smart

4 - Retributionist - this is one of my favorites - they can choose one person to revive (only one!) for the whole game. It can mess things up though, in combination with a lookout or a doctor. (They just watch the revived person who is usually detective and the detective finds all the Mafia

5 - Bodyguard - the Bodyguard can choose one person to watch each night. That person will not be able to perform their ability. If that person is a Mafia they won't kill anyone (if there are two Mafia, the other one can still kill someone). If the bodyguard watches a town person, they won't be able to do their role (Doc won't save anyone / detective can't check anyone.

6 - Janitor - Another possible Mafia role. The Janitor works with the Mafia, and can clean the body of two people for the whole game. If the Mafia successfully kill that person, their role will not be revealed.

7 - Vigilante / gunman - you already know about this role - he actually ended the last game early!

8 - Mayor - the mayor can choose to reveal his role to everyone. If he does, his vote counts twice. It's dangerous because the Mafia could just kill the mayor after he reveals himself.

9 - Vereran - A retired army soldier who can choose to alert twice throughout the whole game. If the veteran goes on alert anyone who visits him dies (be it town or Mafia.) if the Mafia visit, only one of them will die

Those are some roles that would probably work. I definitely wouldn't try to use them all - but a couple could spice things up a little ( it can be boring as a townsperson). A few crazy roles I wouldn't use, but they are fun:

Arsonist : They choose one person each night to douse in gasoline (that person will know they were doused) One night the Arsonist can choose to ignore all his victims, resulting in a pile of dead bodies the next day. The Arsonist wants to be the last one standing. (Kill all Mafia and town)

Werewolf : Every other night (on full moon) this person turns into a werewolf. They choose one person to visit, and that person, and anyone who visits them, dies. Werewolf wants to kill everyone

Serial Killer: This person wants to kill everyone as well. He or she chooses one person to stab each night.

Witch: the witch chooses one person each night to control. They can force the person to use their ability on another person. So if the Witch controls a mafia, they can force the mafia to kill anyone - even one another. The witch just wants to survive until either only town or only Mafia remain.

Vampire: The vampire can choose one person to bite every other night. The bitten person also becomes a vampire. Mafia cannot become vampires. The vampires win if only vampires remain. The Mafia can kill vampires

Vampire Hunter: the Vampire Hunter chooses one person to investigate each night. If they investigate a vampire, they kill that vampire.

Jailor: the Jailor can choose one person to jail each night. That person will not be able to fulfill their role. The Jailor can execute their prisoner if they feel they are evil.


Anyway - that's about every role I've heard of. I'm in, regardless of whether you use any of them.

I'm in.

I'll join!

Fatch: Town of Salem much?

I'm in.

Quote from: Sagetip on September 05, 2016, 03:14:22 PM
Fatch: Town of Salem much?

I'm in.

IKR?

Sure, I'll join.

Well Town of Salem is based on Mafia.

Eh, why not, I'll join.

Also I find it very unfair that people are able to dibs games so far in advance.

I read the title as Mafia: The Jesus Edition.

I need to go to sleep.

Signups close at 7 PM CST; I'll announce the game setup at that time.

Quote from: James Gryphon on September 05, 2016, 03:31:29 AM
13) Jett

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Dot dot dot indeed.

I'm joining.

Haha, it is from Town of Salem! Very good y'all!  :)

That's about the only video game I still enjoy playing - getting too old for 'em these days....

Looking forward to it James!

I guess I'll try again.

This is looking like it'll be a big 'un.

I'm honestly a little impressed and intimidated; I don't think I've ever run one this big before.

Just remember that in a little while it wont be so big. Several, if not most of us, will be dead.

While you're in the mood for hosting things, James - Overlord's Orders...? *wink wink* *nudge nudge*

James has already hosted one, a while back.

I wouldn't mind hosting it :P

Anyway, I'm looking forward to playing Mafia again.

Quote from: Skyblade on September 06, 2016, 01:59:36 AM
I wouldn't mind hosting it :P

Neither would I...

Quote from: Groddil on September 06, 2016, 02:10:03 AM

Quote from: Skyblade on September 06, 2016, 01:59:36 AM
I wouldn't mind hosting it :P

Neither would I...

I think we all would like to.

Maybe y'all should cast lots for it. ;)

All right, signups are closed. I've decided on the theme, and it's going to be a bit lighter than the usual Mafia fare. The story, clues, and assignments are incoming. In the meantime, familiarize yourself with the rules of the setup we're going to be using (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Two-Fold_C9%2B%2B#Power_Notes).

It took months of planning, fundraising, and begging their parents, but at last the First Loamhedge Abbey Forum 'Convention' was cleared and ready to go. 15 forum members, plus Matthias, James, Rainshadow and Daniel, representing the Staff, were been scheduled to meet at a reasonably affordable, out-of-the-way hotel in Georgia, for two weeks of recreation and solidarity.

By 3 PM, on a warm Monday afternoon, the majority of the guests had found each other, and, having dropped off their luggage for the bellhops to transport up, assembled in a small conference room that the convention had been able to hire out for the duration of their stay. After the administrators spent some time fiddling with the sound equipment, Matthias finally took to the podium and started to speak.

"I'm glad to see you could all make it here today. I fully expect that we'll have a wonderful time here together over the next couple of weeks. As you might know, Daniel and Rainshadow haven't made it in yet; their flight was delayed, and they won't be in until later this evening. We'll get the boring stuff out of the way now, though, so the fun can begin."

"We have three rooms, all on the second floor, 204, 208, and 218. 208 and 218 are connected by an adjoining door. The girls will get room 204, and the rest of us will stay in the other two rooms. I'll be in 218, and James and Dan will be in 208. Me and James each have a key to both of our rooms, so ask us if you need to get in. I'm holding on to a key for 204 to give to Rain when she gets here; in the meantime, I've given Gallivanter the other key, to hold on to. Be sure you don't lose it."

"Now on to something more interesting. We've noticed lately that a lot of you like playing Mafia on the forum. With that in mind, we thought it might be fun to run a real-life version of the game while we're here! This is James' production, so I'll step away for a moment and let him explain how this'll work."

James somewhat nervously stepped up to the microphone, and nodded to Matthias. "Well then..."

"This is inspired by those games of "Assassin" you might have heard about. The difference is that instead of it being a free-for-all, y'all will have distinct roles and be on teams, with Mafia-inspired objectives. I've based the rules for this game on a website I found; if you look under your chairs, you should see some pieces of paper that describe the rules and roles of the regular Mafia game. Read through those as soon as you can; it should clarify some things. I'll talk to each of you individually after this meeting is over, to tell you your roles or non-roles."

"There are two Mafia teams, Red and Blue, plus Townies. Each Mafia team can only get one person each night. I got a few squirt guns for y'all to use; talk to me or Matthias and we'll make sure they get to you in time. We'll also pass out some food coloring to put in the water, so that people who get killed will know which team got 'em."

"Remember, if you're shot, you're out of the game! No talking to other people about it or getting in the way after that. Don't worry too much if you get eliminated, though. We're going to be doing a lot of other fun stuff over these weeks besides this. This is just to help fill in the gaps between other activities."

"We thought it'd be fair to start things off with some advice, and give y'all a Day vote before the mayhem begins. Pay close attention because I'm not going to give you information like this again; you'll have to watch each other closely and figure it out on your own. With the way the luggage is being distributed, there will be at least one Mafia, from any team, in each room. If y'all manage to get rid of a Mafia in your room, and suddenly the people in the other rooms start taking an interest in getting access to yours, that's a pretty good indication that they could have an ulterior motive."

"Anyway... I guess this meeting's adjourned. Come talk to me to find out your role, and your partners' roles, if you have any, then go get settled in. Dinner'll be at 6 in the hotel cafeteria. Meet back here, say, at 8:30-ish to vote, and then the rest of the night'll be free. Meeting adjourned."

The next few minutes passed by in something of a blur as each member, in turn, talked quietly to James in the corner. That task done, they began to mill about, many of them starting to seriously converse with one another for the first time. Delthion and Daskar began animatedly arguing about something pointless, as Delthion took every opportunity to show off his trademark grin to anyone who would look, and Daskar said that it didn't do the ones on the forum justice. Skyblade appeared to be in the middle of a serious conversation with Gonff and Fatch about innermost feelings. Sage took over the air hockey table and challenged all comers. James sat down and set up the hotel's chess board, trying to attract someone to play a game, but after hours of travel, and with the excitement of being with their friends, nobody seemed interested in slowing down. Gradually, however, hunger overcame the group's energy, and everyone began to gravitate towards the cafeteria. There was some soup and salad, as well as the customary fruit lying in bins and the hotel juice machines, and they were able to secure an adequate repast. There was a spark of tension when Eul mentioned within Peony's earshot that the chicken salad was excellent, but otherwise things went along well. After the members retired to the convention room, Matthias retrieved the copies of Apples to Apples he had brought in his luggage, and was able to get a sizable number of people to join in; Rosie was particularly hot, with Gallivanter at her heels and Jet coming in a more distant third. The others, tired from the long day, lazed about, talking quietly or using their phones. Time passed by almost too quickly, and before they knew it, it was 8:25. James stepped up to the microphone.

"I hope y'all have been enjoying your time here. I'm ready for some sleep, though, so I asked Matthias if we could get this over with. You've had a few hours to observe each other. It's time to talk about who y'all think about who the red and blue Mafia are, and vote on who, if anyone, should be eliminated. I open the floor for discussion."

I'm now sending out role assignments to everyone. If by 11:15 PM CST you haven't got one, you're a vanilla Townie.

Air hockey. ;D

Great! ;D After missing the last two games, I'm really excited to play, especially in this legit new setup.

Quote from: Sagetip on September 06, 2016, 12:02:01 PM
Air hockey. ;D

Do you have nothing to say about the actual game? :P I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who's a bit confused right now.

~~~

This game is obviously going to work a bit differently, with two Mafia teams instead of one. Before we start investigating, we need to understand how everything's going to work. I tend to start my Mafia games by asking questions about game mechanics, so I'll do that housekeeping right now.

@James Gryphon
Thanks for the creative new setup. I checked out the link you provided and am drawing some parallels, but might as well clarify.

How many Red and Blue Mafia are there?

So, two people die each night (provided doctor saves don't work)?

For Town to win, ALL the Red Mafia and ALL the Blue Mafia must be dead?

Can you explain how Town Power Roles were assigned? I'm really confused about that.

Is there a Cupid?

Might as well ask, are there any clues in this first post?

When we vote, are we allowed to change it? If so, how many times?

This is gonna be fun :D

Quote from: Skyblade on September 06, 2016, 01:30:34 PM
How many Red and Blue Mafia are there?

The Red Mafia are the regular Mafia, and the Blue are the Wolves, so there's three of each. All of the town roles are Red or Blue specific, so they can deal with one set, but not the other.

Quote from: Skyblade on September 06, 2016, 01:30:34 PMSo, two people die each night (provided doctor saves don't work)?

It seems that way, yes.

Quote from: Skyblade on September 06, 2016, 01:30:34 PMFor Town to win, ALL the Red Mafia and ALL the Blue Mafia must be dead?

That's correct.

Quote from: Skyblade on September 06, 2016, 01:30:34 PMCan you explain how Town Power Roles were assigned? I'm really confused about that.

It's a sort of lottery system. Basically, I generate some random numbers that correspond to different letters, and depending on how many of each letter there are, that determines the power of the roles.

Quote from: Skyblade on September 06, 2016, 01:30:34 PMIs there a Cupid?

No Cupid or lovers in this game. I think there'll be enough mayhem to make up for that, though.

Quote from: Skyblade on September 06, 2016, 01:30:34 PMMight as well ask, are there any clues in this first post?

I don't intend to tell y'all how many clues there are right now. That said, there should always be information in the story posts that's relevant to something (now, that might not necessarily be somebody's Mafia status). You might have to sift through it, though, to avoid false leads.

Quote from: Skyblade on September 06, 2016, 01:30:34 PMWhen we vote, are we allowed to change it? If so, how many times?

Last game, people were permitted one vote change, and that seemed to work out okay, so I think we'll stick with that.

I really don't understand limiting the number of times people can change their votes. Mafia is about working out who the bad guys are, if you've changed your mind about that, then why must you be forced to stick to it?

Well, you can indicate that you're leaning towards voting for someone without actually typing their name out in bold. Anyway, limiting vote-changing is mainly for the convenience of the moderator, so it's easier to keep track of who's doing what.

There's a good chance I might run a poll, though; if I do, vote changing will be available for that. The vote changing rule only applies to votes made in posts.

Arguing about something pointless, I would do that. Anyway, I hope those rules aren't too important as I can't access them on my computer.

Quote from: Lord Daskar on September 06, 2016, 05:01:45 PM
Arguing about something pointless, I would do that. Anyway, I hope those rules aren't too important as I can't access them on my computer.

I took one look and was confused.

James, I don't know. This Mafia method confuses me - Badly.

Surely you're not using all of the roles listed there?

No; which roles are used is generated through the means described. As far as what those rules are, I should have mentioned them, but I didn't, so stick around and they'll be described here momentarily.

Skip all of the stuff that has to do with werewolves (I know from experience the different names makes it seem more complicated). There's red and blue Mafia, and red and blue versions of the Town roles.

So, the roles:

For both blue and red Mafia groups:
Two Mafia
One extra special Mafia: Roleblocker OR Role Cop
Roleblockers, each night, choose a player of their choice to keep performing their role (if they have one) at night; the Role Cop role investigates another player, and it is revealed what the name of their role (not their alignment!) is. The special player chooses between one of these two roles at the beginning of the game, and has the powers of that role for the rest of the game. If the other two Mafia are killed, this one can still perform the regular night kill, in addition to their role.

The Town roles:
One 1-Shot Anti-Red Detective: Investigates other players, like the normal Detective, to determine whether they are Red Mafia or not. If they're Blue Mafia, they don't show up as being any different from Town. "1 Shot" means that this ability can be used one, and only one time during the game.
One 1-Shot Anti-Blue Detective: Same as the other detective, but for Blue instead of Red.
One Anti-Red Jailkeeper: Chooses one player to "lock up" each night. They're protected from being killed by the Red Mafia, but also prevented from performing any of their role actions (unless they're a Blue Mafia).
One Anti-Blue Doctor: Same as regular Doctor, but only protects against Blue Mafia kills. Red kills still go through.
One Anti-Blue Tracker/Stalker: Each night phase, this role investigates a player to determine whether they targeted anyone with an action. However, they do not detect the Red Mafia making a kill.

All the other players are normal townies.

I hope this helps a bit. If you have any more questions, ask now,  so we can get it out of the way for everybody and there isn't more confusion going forward. I know this game is more difficult to understand than the other ones you've done before. Running a game with opposing Mafia groups is a big step up in complexity. I'm confident we'll be able to work it out, though.

Quote from: Jet the binturong on September 06, 2016, 03:35:23 PM
I really don't understand limiting the number of times people can change their votes. Mafia is about working out who the bad guys are, if you've changed your mind about that, then why must you be forced to stick to it?

Gamemaster's privilege and convince. ;)


Now that we have the rules under our belt...

Examination of the story immediate presents the fact that all three, Sky, Fatch and Gonff were in a deep conversation. Perhaps's that alludes to them conspiring together, as one of the groups? It may be too obvious though.
Another group of three is Rosie, Galli and Jet playing Apples to Apples (a board game).
That leaves the four, myself, Groddil, Ashenwyte and Chipster, remaining unmentioned.
Thanks for that James. ::)

Since literally no on else is trying to play the game yet, besides the story, for evidence we have to wait for someone to say something.

This sees complicated, but I think I understand.

Skyblade already asked most of the questions I had, but here are a few more:

Since this is only a game, all of us will leave the conference alive?

What happens if both mafias choose to kill the same person?

When are we now?  Do we vote someone out already, or do we wait for the mafias to kill someone?  If it is the latter, do they kill dummy players (like in the previous two games), or two of the actual players?

Quote from: Chipster of Noonvale on September 06, 2016, 07:43:20 PM
Since this is only a game, all of us will leave the conference alive?

That was the plan. I suppose I might do some things to spice it up, but I don't think anyone will be permanently maimed.

Quote from: Chipster of Noonvale on September 06, 2016, 07:43:20 PMWhat happens if both mafias choose to kill the same person?

That's a question I hadn't thought about. It's pretty unlikely, but I guess they get double-killed. ;)

Quote from: Chipster of Noonvale on September 06, 2016, 07:43:20 PMWhen are we now?  Do we vote someone out already, or do we wait for the mafias to kill someone?  If it is the latter, do they kill dummy players (like in the previous two games), or two of the actual players?

This is the first day phase. The whole point of having the dummy player die is to tell the players there are Mafia; in this case, though, you're told that by the GM, so you can start voting right away.

I guess I agree with Soren that Sky, Fatch, or Gonff should be voted out.

Quote from: James Gryphon on September 06, 2016, 07:54:16 PM

Quote from: Chipster of Noonvale on September 06, 2016, 07:43:20 PMWhat happens if both mafias choose to kill the same person?

That's a question I hadn't thought about. It's pretty unlikely, but I guess they get double-killed. ;)

Negative times Negative equals Positive, James. They live.

Quote from: Lord Daskar on September 06, 2016, 09:44:00 PM

Quote from: James Gryphon on September 06, 2016, 07:54:16 PM

Quote from: Chipster of Noonvale on September 06, 2016, 07:43:20 PMWhat happens if both mafias choose to kill the same person?

That's a question I hadn't thought about. It's pretty unlikely, but I guess they get double-killed. ;)

Negative times Negative equals Positive, James. They live.

I have to admit that did cross my mind. I'm honestly not sure; there doesn't seem to be any reference for when that happens.

I'll guess I'll decide if it comes up.

Dang, I have no idea what's going on. So there is a Mafia game where we are simulated playing a Mafia game, in which we are simulating playing a Mafia game? And how many roles are there that are just plain civilians? Because it seems that everybody should have some kind of role, right?

Quote from: Gonff the Mousethief on September 06, 2016, 09:55:21 PM
So there is a Mafia game where we are simulated playing a Mafia game, in which we are simulating playing a Mafia game?

No, it's only a Mafia game where you're simulating playing a Mafia game. ;)

Quote from: Gonff the Mousethief on September 06, 2016, 09:55:21 PMAnd how many roles are there that are just plain civilians? Because it seems that everybody should have some kind of role, right?

There's four plain vanilla civilians, I think. Some of the town roles are only 1-shot, though, so in practice, they're going to be normal civvies most of the time.

Quote from: Lord Daskar on September 06, 2016, 09:44:00 PM
I guess I agree with Soren that Sky, Fatch, or Gonff should be voted out.

You jumped on that awfully quick. Why does it have to be our group? There were two other groups, as Soren mentioned.

So how many Mafia are there? 4? 6?

@Fatch: Six total, three in each group. One has extra powers, the other two are normal.

@EVERYONE: If you don't undertand the rules, please say so. I don't want people making mistakes from not understanding the setup. Also, keep in mind:

- Roles were randomized. Previous games have no bearing on this one.
- You can only change your vote once, so don't do it until you're pretty sure.

So what I'm getting at here is that we're currently 9 Town VS 6 Mafia (3 Red Mafia and 3 Blue Mafia).

This may seem daunting, and I'll admit it's quite worrisome. However, I can also see this as advantageous for the Town. From the start, we have pretty good odds of voting out a Mafia.

@James Gryphon Thank you for answering my questions. I have a good grip on the game's setup now. Still, look forward to hearing from me throughout the game ;D

The Red Mafia and Blue Mafia are SEPARATE, correct? So either one team wins or the other, not both at the same time. So the win condition is one of the following:
- Town
- Red Mafia
- Blue Mafia

Also, what are the conditions for a Red Mafia or Blue Mafia team to win?

Quote from: Søren on September 06, 2016, 07:27:07 PMExamination of the story immediate presents the fact that all three, Sky, Fatch and Gonff were in a deep conversation. Perhaps's that alludes to them conspiring together, as one of the groups? It may be too obvious though.
Another group of three is Rosie, Galli and Jet playing Apples to Apples (a board game).

I think those are both too obvious. In addition, James mentioned when it comes to clues, "You might have to sift through it, though, to avoid false leads." But as people who've played with me before know, I'm not a fan of clues in general.

As far as the win condition goes, that's the same as usual; everybody outside of your team has to git.

Quote from: Skyblade on September 06, 2016, 11:18:23 PM
This may seem daunting, and I'll admit it's quite worrisome. However, I can also see this as advantageous for the Town. From the start, we have pretty good odds of voting out a Mafia. True, but it also means that there's a greater chance of voting out town, considering how many of us there are, and how clues can be pretty hard to decipher.

Quote from: Søren on September 06, 2016, 07:27:07 PMExamination of the story immediate presents the fact that all three, Sky, Fatch and Gonff were in a deep conversation. Perhaps's that alludes to them conspiring together, as one of the groups? It may be too obvious though.
Another group of three is Rosie, Galli and Jet playing Apples to Apples (a board game).

I think those are both too obvious. In addition, James mentioned when it comes to clues, "You might have to sift through it, though, to avoid false leads." But as people who've played with me before know, I'm not a fan of clues in general. Agreed. It seems way too obvious to present the mafia straight up.

Im gonna have to agree that those groups of three are way too obvious to mean mafia.

This is my personal take on clues:

They're like gambling. Sometimes you're right, and more often you're wrong.

I'm NOT saying completely disregard them. But I like to use them in conjunction with posts. If you see someone posting suspiciously AND something off about them in the story, I think that warrants a vote.

One problem with clues is how easy they are to misinterpret. The following has happened often on the forum:

Mafia: See, this person (who's Town) is suspicious because the story said <pulls out a part of the story that makes the person look suspicious but actually means nothing>
Accused Person: No, I don't know why the story mentioned me. Seriously, I'm innocent.
Town: NO YOU'RE NOT BRUH. *Votes out citizen*

On the flip side, if someone accuses you using a clue, it's way too easy to make up something to defend yourself.

Town Member: You're suspicious because after the guy was killed at night, you mentioned being very tired in the morning.
Mafia: That doesn't make sense. Why would I say I was tired, attracting suspicion to myself?
Entire Town: Oh yeah, true. Good defense! (Not really)

James, I'm still really, really confused. . . . I don't think I wanna play, unless you need me? Sorry, James.

@Peony this is my take on everything you need to know. It's not too complicated. The bit about randomizing the roles makes it seem more complicated than it is.

1. There are two groups of Mafia
2. These two groups don't work together
3. Town wants to kill both groups of Mafia, and both Mafia want the other Mafia group dead, as well as the town
4. There are slightly different or new roles. All you need to worry about is your role, not the other new ones - and I'm sure James can explain your role to you, if needed

Please don't drop out - how will our glorious rivalry continue?

Several members haven't posted yet; I'll give them a bit more time.

It's hard to come up with stuff this early on; right now the only suspect I have is Vilu.

I thought of this earlier and Fatch beat me to posting it, but after looking over this, I have more to say.

Quote from: Søren on September 06, 2016, 07:27:07 PMExamination of the story immediate presents the fact that all three, Sky, Fatch and Gonff were in a deep conversation. Perhaps's that alludes to them conspiring together, as one of the groups? It may be too obvious though.
Another group of three is Rosie, Galli and Jet playing Apples to Apples (a board game).

Then Vilu says:

Quote from: Lord Daskar on September 06, 2016, 09:44:00 PMI guess I agree with Soren that Sky, Fatch, or Gonff should be voted out.

Soren mentioned two groups of three. Why did Vilu mention the first but not the other?

Another thing, "should" is a strong word to use. If you look at Soren's post, he never says that any of the people in the three groups should be voted out; he simply provides something that may be a clue, and even admits that "It may be too obvious though."

Both things I observed (Vilu going after the first group but not the second, and stretching Soren's words to maximize suspicion) make him my first suspect. I'm NOT voting yet, because I want to be more sure (we can only change our vote once). But I need to point this out.

Hopefully as the game keeps rolling, we will find more clues, because this is just one lead.

@Peony: In addition to what Fatch said, remember that I'm available to all of you to offer you as much help as you need, both in explaining the rules, and giving you advice, if you want it. If you have anything that you want to know, just PM me and we'll talk it out.

Now that the roles have been generated, I'd rather nobody drop out, and I can't really not count you as a player, for game balance.

Huh.

I guess I should go with everyone else with Vilu as the suspect. I won't suspect anyone else for the time being, but Daskar...

But- Oh, fine. It's not fair, you know, guilt-tripping, but fine. I'll play.

I assume Vilu and Daskar are the same person?

Either way, he does seem suspicious.  But then, we all thought that last game and he was innocent...

Anyway, I'll probably vote for him unless someone provides a more convincing argument for someone else.

Added a poll. Majority vote is needed for someone to go. I'll consider the results done when enough people have voted that switching votes is the only way to change the outcome.

I guess for now I'll vote Daskar, as he's the only one with a reason to vote for.

I am finding this round confusing, so I voted for myself. ;D

Only Delthion would vote for himself.  ;D Why vote at all if that's what you're going to do?  ;D

I'm going to vote Daskar. When I first came to this forum he wanted me to vote for him as president. Seeing as I didn't do that, I figure I have to make it up to him somehow.

Also, he was in favor of lynching me, which I'm definitely not a fan of.  :P

Quote from: Delthion on September 07, 2016, 08:42:52 PM
I am finding this round confusing, so I voted for myself. ;D

...

:-|

*Comes back after posting barely this morning*

Woah O__________o That escalated quickly.

I'm just going to save this for evidence:

Quote from: Poll ResultsResponses to PUBLIC poll:   Who should be voted off the island?
Timestamp   Member   Choice   Choice Label   /   Comment
September 07, 2016, 08:34:03 pm   Jet the binturong   15   Lord Daskar
September 07, 2016, 08:35:57 pm   Chipster of Noonvale   15   Lord Daskar
It's actually possible to vote for nobody?
September 07, 2016, 08:42:30 pm   Delthion   1   Delthion
September 07, 2016, 08:54:48 pm   Sagetip   15   Lord Daskar
September 07, 2016, 09:51:35 pm   Groddil   15   Lord Daskar
September 07, 2016, 10:07:00 pm   Fatch of Southsward   15   Lord Daskar
September 07, 2016, 10:10:31 pm   Rosie Willowwater   15   Lord Daskar
September 07, 2016, 10:39:12 pm   Gonff the Mousethief   15   Lord Daskar
September 07, 2016, 11:39:14 pm   Aimless Gallivanter   15   Lord Daskar

That's already 8/15, so he's out. In all honesty, don't we think we're jumping the gun a little? I was hoping we could get a defense from Daskar before lynching him.

EDIT: I did vote him, though, as he's my only real suspect. Plus he's going to die anyway, so might as well put my vote where my opinion is.

/me has died in 100% of all mafia games he has played (read: 2). But at least Groddil took the Mafia with him!

Well, it is the first day. There aren't that many clues. 'Course, there's always the possibility that Daskar was just town and worded it wrong. I really hope we got this right.

/me shrugs.

I'm gonna move info from my last post over here.

Anyway, considering that I've been killed in 3/4 games I've played and there's twice the chance of it happening this game, I'm going to try to get some thoughts up before the Night. Of course, my opinions will change after we discover Daskar's role, but by then it would already be Night.

If I die, please come back and look at this.

My Thoughts

I don't know what to make of everyone jumping onto the Vilu Daskar choo-choo train, but it makes me uneasy. Hence why I saved the poll results, so anyone can look back at them later.

I'm just going to run down the list of players:

Del: The only clue I have is that he voted for himself. Don't tell me what to do with that info :P

Gonff: Posted once about setup, which doesn't tell much. Then followed the crowd in voting Daskar. This makes me a bit suspicious, because Gonff is usually more analytical than that.

Soren: Right now, I'm leaning Town on him. Bear in mind that it's the beginning of the game and my evidence isn't strong. But I like his first post; I like how he points out the potential clues so everyone is aware of them but also acknowledges that they could be wrong. This seems like a Town attitude to me, remaining impartial and not going too far one direction or the other.

Groddil: He posted once, then followed the crowd. However, I do like the post he made; I agree with both his points. Right now I can't say much.

Eul: I'm suspicious of her. Usually, (http://www.loamhedgeabbey.com/index.php/topic,469.60.html) Eul is a very active and thoughtful poster. But despite remaining as active on the forum as ever, Eul hasn't posted here once. It makes me feel uneasy. I remember one game when Jet was Mafia, he didn't post in the thread and got by unnoticed. When someone finally pointed it out, he made an excuse. I don't know whether Eul would do the same thing, but her inactivity is something to consider.

Galli: Followed crowd and made one decent post. Meh, need more info.

Fatch: I like his line of thinking, but he did say he likes Mafia a lot, so he may be better at faking. Not one way or the other on him.

Ash: Hasn't posted once...

Rosie: Posted once about how fun this is, right? Then followed crowd... I don't like the lack of posts (correct me if she posted and I missed it)

Sage: I don't like how in the post following my suspicions of Vilu, he says he will follow "everyone else". At the time, the only people who suspected Vilu were me and Fatch - "everyone else" is a gross exaggeration of two people, and might be used as an excuse to vote Vilu. A little odd.

Peony: Can't say much.

Jet: Ditto

Chipster: I like that he was asking questions, but he also followed the crowd. Need more content.

Daskar: We know my opinion! :P


Ugh, this so so time consuming :P If there's a next time, I'm not going in this depth.

[close]

I was confused wether we were waiting on the mafia doctor and . . . Others or if we were deciding on who to vote for so I kept quiet.

I jumped on no train. I fully voted for Daskar because I felt that was the best choice. Now, I'm not going to go straight in and analyze everything that people say, because people can lie, while clues can't.

yeah but you can misinterpret clues

Well I would much rather fail at my own cost then being simply tricked.

Crud, I forgot this started. That happened last round, sorry.

Anyhow, I do think it's suspicious that Dasker would leave out several people, but we should slow down a bit because this is a more complicated round. There's more Mafia this time, which means we have to be careful who we vote out. Everybody seems to be leaning towards him so fast, and, while I don't really see anything else that would make me suspect a specific member, I doubt it's a good idea to vote so quickly.

I'm going to go back and read over the posts more carefully to see if there's anything I can find.

EDIT:

I'm not pointing fingers just yet, or saying this is who I'm voting for, but I think I may suspect Jet and Peony.

Peony - remember that round when she was Mafia and made a post about not getting a PM, oh oops, now everybody knows she's Town, oh no... wait, she was actually the Mafia? She's been making posts about not understanding and maybe even dropping out, which could be very similar to the trick she pulled off when she was the Mafia. I'm not saying it means anything, but that's what it could be.

Jet - we all are complaining about how he posted nothing when he was Mafia, and now he is posting, that means he must be Town this time, right? Well, it would only make sense for him to post a lot now if he was Mafia, it makes sense. Again, I'm not saying this definitely means he's Mafia, I'm just saying he and Corn should be watched. Not that there is someone who shouldn't be, it's never a good idea to trust anyone in this game.

I bet one of the mafia groups are Skye, Gonff and Fatch, they were the only ones that were talking in a group of three and they only APPEARED to be discussing innermost feelings. Fatch and Skye are the most intimidating mafia players in this game, so we should probably eliminate one of them first.

James watches with some interest as the players near-unanimously cast their votes against Daskar. After the ninth vote, he raises a hand for silence.

"I guess that'll do it for this session. Sorry Vilu; better luck next time. It's just a game, anyway. You'll have plenty of chances to win at something before we're done here." James types something down on his phone, then looks towards the main body of voters.

"Y'all got a real bandwagon going. Were you all really sure that was the right way to go? Well, I won't hold you in suspense any longer. Vilu's the first player to go from our game, and he was... Town. No special assignment."

James yawns. "Well, I'm done down here for the night, y'all. I'll probably be up for a bit longer as I try to settle down for the night, so if you tap on the door when you come up I might still be able to let you in. If I'm asleep, though, Matthias will unlock the door for you. G'night."

The night phase has begun. The Mafia teams should discuss who they want to try to kill amongst themselves, and PM me their decision. Everyone with a special role should also PM me, to tell me who they want to use their power on. (If you have a 1-Shot role and don't want to use it tonight, you should still contact me, so that I don't wait extra time for you in case you want to use it.)

As honored as I am to be described as an intimidating mafia player, I must disagree with Delthion's statement. There are several routes this grouping could take.

We could all be mafia, in which case you certainly should lynch us. Luckily, that's not the case. James would never put all the groups out in the open like that. I'm a town member, as I always have been.  :) We certainly can't all be mafia, since I know that I, at least, am not one.

We could all be town. We could all be doctors. We could all be investigators. If this is the case, lynching us would allow the mafia to recognize half of the important town roles. Not a good move. I don't think this is the case either. Once again, James would never group us like that and then reveal it to the entire playing board.

I think the most likely case is that we were grouped as part of one of the pseudo - clues (or false clues). James specifically mentioned they would be around, and such an obvious clue is almost certainly a false one. (This is James we're talking about. The clues are well hidden, and not meant to be easily found. A clue this simple would practically throw the whole game away.)

I'm not very confident in voting out Daskar either, but voting out Sky or myself seems to be a much more risky path to take.

EDIT: James Ninja'd me. Unfortunately, the worst possible thing has happened and Daskar was a town member. We should have known better - this is exactly what he was voted out for last time we played mafia, and we were wrong that time to.

(I realized that not requiring confirmation from the 1-shot roles is a bad idea, for practical reasons, so I've reversed that policy. You should now send me a confirmation saying that you're aware it's night and you don't want to use your power. This way, I don't spend extra time waiting for you in case you do decide to use it. Sorry for that.)

Man, even with there being those "One night only" power people, we still chose one of the four people out of 15 that are always Town. Didn't Daskar do this last time?

*facepalm*

Quote from: Eulaliaaa! on September 08, 2016, 01:23:48 PM
*facepalm*

My thoughts exactly.

Quote from: Eulaliaaa! on September 08, 2016, 03:13:55 AM
Peony - remember that round when she was Mafia and made a post about not getting a PM, oh oops, now everybody knows she's Town, oh no... wait, she was actually the Mafia? She's been making posts about not understanding and maybe even dropping out, which could be very similar to the trick she pulled off when she was the Mafia. I'm not saying it means anything, but that's what it could be.

I swear by everything I hold dear I did not get a PM that time. If an honest mistake won that game, then I'm not complaining, but I AM complaining about people giving me credit for what I didn't do. For once and for all, that was no trick on my part. That was all Town assumption.

Anyway. Sorry. One of my pet peeves, combined with early morning.

I'll put up thoughts later, when I have time.

Quote from: Eulaliaaa! on September 08, 2016, 03:13:55 AM
Jet - we all are complaining about how he posted nothing when he was Mafia, and now he is posting, that means he must be Town this time, right? Well, it would only make sense for him to post a lot now if he was Mafia, it makes sense. Again, I'm not saying this definitely means he's Mafia, I'm just saying he and Corn should be watched. Not that there is someone who shouldn't be, it's never a good idea to trust anyone in this game.

Which game was this? Because I don't remember it.

I should be clearer in my posts.

This is the second game in a row where Daskar is the first to be voted out only to turn out innocent.  This can mean two things:

1: He always acts suspiciously even when he has nothing to conceal;
2: Voters are too hasty.

Or a combination of both...

Quote from: Chipster of Noonvale on September 08, 2016, 07:21:36 PM
This is the second game in a row where Daskar is the first to be voted out only to turn out innocent.  This can mean two things:

1: He always acts suspiciously even when he has nothing to conceal;
2: Voters are too hasty.

Or a combination of both...

I'll admit, Daskar always seems suspicious. And voters are always hasty on the first day, when there isn't any real clues. We tend to just go for whoever everybody else does, 'cause there's nothing else to really do.

Uh, Groddz, we always do that. How did Skye put? The _____ choo-choo train? Game before last was a prime example of that. Remember, everyone jumped on the 'Let's Kill Corn!' bandwagon, and then I'd work my magic powers and you'd all jump on someone's tail?

That situation differed slightly, in that the bandwagon was actually correct in gunning for you, Mrs Mafia.  ;D

Well, yeah. That was just an example. :)

Quote from: Peony on September 09, 2016, 01:54:41 AM
Uh, Groddz, we always do that. How did Skye put? The _____ choo-choo train? Game before last was a prime example of that. Remember, everyone jumped on the 'Let's Kill Corn!' bandwagon, and then I'd work my magic powers and you'd all jump on someone's tail?

Corn, that's what I was saying...

Quote from: Groddil on September 09, 2016, 04:33:19 AM

Quote from: Peony on September 09, 2016, 01:54:41 AM
Uh, Groddz, we always do that. How did Skye put? The _____ choo-choo train? Game before last was a prime example of that. Remember, everyone jumped on the 'Let's Kill Corn!' bandwagon, and then I'd work my magic powers and you'd all jump on someone's tail?

Corn, that's what I was saying...

No, you just said we pretty much only do it the first day - But we do it all. The. Time.

I got a question from a Mafia member, and I think the answer is relevant to everyone, so I'll give it here.

I wasn't sure of the answer at first, but after doing a lot of research, I've come to the conclusion that the way it is usually played, the Mafia are required to select a particular player from their group to make the nightkill. So, if somebody tracks or blocks that player, they can be detected or blocked.

So, if you're a Mafia group, be sure to tell me which of your members you want to make your nightkill. And if you have a role, be aware that targeting a player can affect their chances of making said kill.

Are we waiting on someone?

There's a few orders left that haven't been sent in; I don't expect it'll be too much longer though.

Just gonna go ahead and point out (while I am still alive) that Lord Ashenwyte has not been on recently, and everyone else has.

In fact, everyone else has been online within the last day, except for him.

This may tag him as mafia - that's the role I would be most likely to wait on if I were host.

His profile does say he was on earlier today, 12 hours ago, at 10 AM (CST). I talked to him last night on the Discord server too.

At any rate, more orders have come in since my last post, and I expect the next story post will be up before too much longer.

i think that's a little far fetched Garth.( i meant Fatch but auto correct said Garth so I'm leaving it). You realize there's so much more to this forum than the Mafia game right? It's silly to say that because he's not on, he's avoiding this thread, specifically. Additionally, he's probably just busy, and discord is more accessible to him then the forum or something.

Ash has a very similar Timezone to me, so since he was last active, he's had to sleep, then do whatever during the day that could have kept him busy. He's usually active when most of the American members aren't. Just check the Discord history, for instance.

I'm going to bed pretty soon; I expect I'll have the story and the Day Phase up tomorrow afternoon, or night, though, so be on the lookout for that.

Cool. Hope I'm still alive by then.

*Sighs impatiently*

By about 9:20, the excitement of the first day had begun to wear off, and the fatigue from the long day had set in. After one short game of Redwall trivia, the assembly broke up and went off to their rooms, Matthias being careful to remind everyone to be quiet and consider the needs of the other hotel guests.

After the guys got into their room, they began to sort through their belongings and figure out who would be going where. By the end of it, Søren, Sage, Gonff, Del, and Fatch had decided to stick in 208 with James and Daniel, while Ashe, Groddil, Jet, Chipster and Daskar settled down in 218 with Matthias. James had arranged himself a cot under the customary desk in the corner of the room, with his phone plugged in, texting someone. Søren hooked his phone up to the wall next to James, commenting that he was lucky that the battery hadn't already gone out. Del called the shower first, while Sage and the others talked about how the day had gone.

Meanwhile in the other room, Daskar bounced around irritating Jet and Groddil. Matthias told them to quiet down, as he was on the phone with Rain and Galli sorting out the details of the next day's schedule. After their call was done, he opened the door to 208 and poked his head in to inform James and Dan that the group, as determined in their previous conversation that day, was scheduled to be up for breakfast at 10, and headed out to visit the arboretum by 12.

With that element of housekeeping done, Del finally got out of the bathroom. Sage asked James whether he could go get some more towels from the front desk, considering that there were seven people in the room and only four sets available. James consented; Gonff also thought of a couple more things that they might need, so Sage and Gonff walked out and went down the stairs in that direction.

Meanwhile, in the girls' room, they had quickly ascertained the need for more towels and washcloths. Sky volunteered to go to the front desk, and headed out. A minute later, Galli, who had been in the bathroom, came out and asked where Sky was. After Rosie told her, Galli said, "Well, I just found out that we're going to need more soap. I'll guess I'll go down with her to make sure we get some," and headed outside.

Sky, Sage and Gonff met at the front desk. They exchanged pleasantries while they waited for the hotel staff to come. Sage mentioned that they ought to get some trash bags while they were there, to help hold people's used clothing, and that sounded like a good idea to the others, who placed that additional request to the manager. Galli arrived at about this time and placed her request for more soap. The goods arrived at about the same time; as they all collected their new things and got ready to go, Sky mentioned her intention of picking up some ice from the ice machine. The group walked back up the stairs and headed to their separate rooms. Sky and Galli found out from Rain when they got there that Eul and Rosie had left the room, Eul wanting a fresh bottle of water and Rosie itching for a bag of Skittles.

Armed with this knowledge, Sky picked up the ice bucket and headed out to collect some frozen water. Along the way she crossed paths with Eul and Rosie, who were coming back, Rosie with her skittles and Eul carrying a bag full with four bottles of water. Sky asked her why so many? Rosie said, "I know; she must be really really thirsty!". Eul shrugged and replied, "You can never be too hydrated!" Moving on, Sky reached the alcove where the ice machine was. She found Sage was there, with a bucket of his own, doing the same thing. He commented, "I thought getting ice was a good idea, so after I dropped into our room I told them I would do the same as you. Also, I don't think James liked the idea of you being down here by yourself."

Her hands full with a bucket of ice, Sky and Sage began to walk back. However, as they were about half-way there, Sky detected a flicker of movement out of the corner of her eye. She asked Sage to hold up, and looked around to see if she could figure out what was moving. For a moment, nothing; then it was there; someone wearing a hat running in her direction! Sky and Sage tried to react, but it was too late; the figure tackled them, hissing "Get down!" As they fell towards the ground, Sky saw a stream of liquid hit the side of the wall where she had just been standing. Sky turned to thank her unexpected savior, but found nobody was there. They had disappeared into the night as quickly as they came. Sage looked at where the liquid had hit, to find what looked like a blue substance on the rocky wall.

Somewhat shaken, the two picked themselves back up. Sky's bucket had miraculously stayed closed during the exchange, so she collected it, and they began to walk back, taking an unusual amount of time looking around every corner to make sure that nobody was there. However, they made it back to their doors without further incident.

Rosie answered the door when Sky knocked, and seemed somewhat taken aback by her state. "What happened?" Galli, who was sitting in bed reading a book, looked over. "What happened to your hair? You look like you've been fighting." Sky said, "Well, maybe close enough to it..." and explained what had happened. "It must have been a Mafia attack," exclaimed Eul. Peony snorted. "They're lucky they took on Sky instead of me. I would've thrown the ice and the bucket."

The rest of the night went by apparently uneventfully. All of the members were up by 8 in the morning, and began trickling into their room by 9:30. James and Del arrived notably later than the others, at exactly 10:05. Del, while still cheerful, seemed more subdued than usual. The reason for this was soon revealed when James stood up at the podium and began to speak.

"For our morning Mafia news, I'd like to announce two events that took place during the last day phase. Firstly, there was an attempted hit on Sky last night that went awry. She was apparently saved thanks to the intervention of the Doctor. Secondly, Delthion was apparently shot while he slept. The color on his shirt was red. He was an ordinary Blue Mafia goon. Thanks for your attention; that's all I have for now. We'll have another Mafia meeting tonight. In the meantime, eat up and get ready to get anything you might need for the day; our van heads out in two hours!"

---

After a long day walking on trails and through gardens at the arboretum, topped off by a visit to an impressive pond, the group made it back to the hotel in time for the evening meal. After talking and playing quietly in their assigned room for the next few hours, the time finally came for the evening discussion... and vote.

--- TLDR ---
Delthion, a Blue Mafia goon, is "dead".
There was an assassination attempt on Skyblade, but it failed, thanks to the timely intervention of the Doctor.
The second Day phase has begun.

THANK YOU, DOCTOR!
And even though you're evil, Red Mafia, thanks for killing one of the Blue Mafia :P

Okay, firstly:

Quote from: JamesAlong the way she crossed paths with Eul and Rosie, who were coming back, Rosie with her skittles and Eul carrying a bag full with four bottles of water. Sky asked her why so many? Rosie said, "I know; she must be really really thirsty!". Eul shrugged and replied, "You can never be too hydrated!"

This "clue" seems way too obvious to actually mean anything. If Eul was Mafia, why would she collect water in front of everyone? This doesn't mean that she can't be Mafia, but this line doesn't point to her being so.

As James stated earlier:

Quote from: JamesThat said, there should always be information in the story posts that's relevant to something (now, that might not necessarily be somebody's Mafia status). You might have to sift through it, though, to avoid false leads.

This implies that we shouldn't go after the things that really stand out. We would have to take a more analytical approach.

My Mafia philosophy is: Consider clues, but don't rely on them - you may be interpreting them all wrong. Never let them be the sole reason to vote.

~~

Also, I have an idea that may mean something. @James Gryphon: Do the girls at any point have access to the guys room and vice versa? And may you PM Ashe please? He hasn't posted once.

Here's my thought. If people can't visit others of the opposite gender:

Quote from: JamesSecondly, Delthion was apparently shot while he slept.

The killer had to be in the room to do this. Thus, the killer has to be male.

Furthermore, I was attacked outside my room. I'm thinking: if the attacker was a girl, why didn't she just kill me in my sleep, like what happened to Del? It would been easier. But if the Mafia was a guy, killing me in my room wouldn't have worked, hence why he had to track me in the hallway.

I'll get James' reply before making further investigations.

Ookey, let's see.

It looks like Del got taken out by the other mafia (cheers, murderers), so that's one less him to worry about. Meanwhile, we're going to have to find out who actually shot him.

It'd be a good idea to go off who was in the same room as him.

Soren, Sage, Gonff, Fatch, James, and Daniel.

We can rule off James and Daniel straight away, obviously.

Sage was with Sky when Del probably died, so let's rule out him.

The killer was either Soren, Fatch, or Gonff. I'm not sure when exactly Gonff got back, but I think it would be wise to assume that the blue mafia probably put one person in each room, as not to worry about keys. Plus, if Del had a friend with him, he might not have died. So, that means, of Soren, Fatch, and Gonff, one person is most likely red mafia, while the others are town. I'm tending to lean more towards Soren and Fatch.

As for who tried to kill Skyblade, it was probably somebody who wasn't in their room at the time. That segment was a bit confusing, but I think we can safely say somebody who wasn't in their room did the deed. (Apart from Sage).

From this, we can also say that Sage is probably either Red Mafia or Town, as he was with Sky when somebody else from Blue tried to kill her.

That's just what I scrounged up, though. If somebody can try and decipher the Skyblade scene more, or try and find out who killed Delthion, I'd appreciate it. Cheers.

EDIT: Ninja'd

Ninja'd:
Preliminary thoughts:
So, putting aside the clues in the story for the moment, let's look at what happened. We know the Doctor isn't Sky, unless James made up a character to save her. Sage isn't the Doctor is you consider that as evidence from the story.
So we have two who are clearly not the Doctor. Sky could be Red Mafia, or Town. Sage could be anything.
Del, he's dead. So who was he hanging out with in the story? It said he was killed in his sleep. So it's likely from either of the two rooms (clue stretch, I know, I'm just putting it out there) They have a connecting door, so it could've been anyone. More conveniently though for it to be from either of the two rooms.

Onto random observations that could possibly be clues:
So, Galli made a request to the front desk. No one else is mentioned speaking to the hotel staff. She's also the only non-mod who's mentioned to be consorting on planned activities. That's kinda unusual, considering all the other forum guest are being babysat. She was alone in the bathroom, and then asked where Sky was, declared she was going to go get soap, and then left until after the attempt on Sky. Maybe she has a role?
Sage is everywhere. He though up the idea for towels, then trash bags, and out of nowhere he thinks up ice, just as Sky did.

Right now, based on potential clues, I'm definitely thinking Galli. (Maybe Galli as the Doctor)

We should definitely find out from James if the room placements have any bearing before we start singling out people, @Groddil.  ::)

Personally, I think Galli is the Doctor, due to her immediately going after Sky when she found out she was gone.

Quote from: Jet the binturong on September 11, 2016, 10:17:53 PM
Personally, I think Galli is the Doctor, due to her immediately going after Sky when she found out she was gone.

That does make sense. If Galli was Blue Mafia, she would have just pulled a Delthion, to make it quicker.

Quote from: Skyblade on September 11, 2016, 10:00:40 PM
Do the girls at any point have access to the guys room and vice versa? And may you PM Ashe please? He hasn't posted once.

I did PM Ash, earlier.

As far as your question goes, if anybody did access the other side's room, it obviously didn't happen while most of y'all were awake, else, you would have heard about it. And if anything happened in y'all's sleep, then, of course, you couldn't know. ;)

That said, speaking as somebody who's been on plenty of youth trips, I don't think that your chaperones would let that happen; I personally find the idea quite improper.

New poll is up, just FYI.

This is how all of the real mafia games go that I have participated in, I am targeted, either the doctor saves me or I die... ;D

I can't talk a lot about it now, but I'm really feeling that it may be Fatch. He didn't go out, he didn't go anything, which would throw him off the trail. Or it may be Søren, dunno.

Quote from: Gonff the Mousethief on September 11, 2016, 11:23:49 PM
I can't talk a lot about it now, but I'm really feeling that it may be Fatch. He didn't go out, he didn't go anything, which would throw him off the trail. Or it may be Søren, dunno.

I guess. But personally I agree more with the Soren part. Dunno why, just a hunch, but it seems like Fatch always seems a little bit suspicious. Soren, on the other hand, has been pretty defensive. Hmm...

Another reason I am going to pick between those two is because I would have gotten it a Red Mafia located. That means that the two other Blue Mafia would join in, and the Town would also be a part of it. Plus it seems kind of vague who would be attacking Sky, but I think Eul may be the Doctor.

'Course, the Blue Mafia might have chosen the role that lets them see what Sky actually was. Even without knowing WHAT she was, they knew that she was either an opposing mafia member, or some sort of townie. Most likely the second option, because why would the doctor save a Red Mafia?

EDIT:

I've got more evidence to suggest Soren as being Blue Mafia. I forgot to bring this up earlier, but just before Del got murdered, he and Soren were both sending messages. The Red Mafia killed Del, who turned out to be mafia, so I'm going to join this with my other findings and vote for Soren.

*Reads story several times* so much info and we have no idea what is and isn't useful. Well, time to pick through every tiny detail, make note of it all and compare it to everything I see :P

Ok, Sky must be either with Town or Red Mafia. We can narrow it down to that. The story mentions the Doctor that saved her was wearing a hat. I think we should make note of that small detail and see if it appears in the story again, it may give us an idea who our Doctor is.

Del was killed by Red Mafia, one who has to be a boy. James said people of the opposite gender would not be allowed in the rooms, and it would only make sense to have each Mafia team have at least one of each gender unless we're going for the whole "boys vs. girls" thing. Which, if that is the case, means Sky is Town. We might want to read the stories to see if it's a common theme. It might be helpful, maybe not.

Sage was with Sky when Blue Mafia attacked. That doesn't mean he isn't Blue Mafia. It's possible that he and another Blue Mafia were there.
He said "I don't think James liked the idea of you being down here by yourself."
James knew we were down in the lobby getting whatever we needed. Sky, Sage, Gonff, and Galli are at the front desk. As they go back, Sky says she wants ice. Sage and Gonff get back. Sky and Galli get back and Sky goes to get ice after Rain says Rosie and I left to get stuff. Sky leaves. Rain and Galli seem to have some form of authority here because Matthias is talking to them about the schedule and figuring stuff out. So Rain knows Rosie, Sky, and I are all out there together. Sky isn't alone, from what everybody else knows. And when Rosie and I got back, I doubt we'd just peek into the boy's room to find James all like "Wassup, yo? We're going back to the girl's room and stuff, like, we're all cool here no need to be worrying we're back now, BTW, Sky is alone out there!"
So James wouldn't know Sky is alone and wouldn't be able to say so. Sage and Gonff heard Sky say she was getting ice, and they left her. For all they know, Galli would still be with her, and with everybody coming and going, it would be hard to know whether or not she was alone. So maybe Sage went down to go see while one of his Mafia buddies shot at her if there was the opportunity. Urgh, this is hard to organize. Do you guys get what I'm trying to say? And it could mean nothing, I don't know. We can't rely on the story clues, but so far, that's what I've observed. What are your thoughts?

It's interesting how most of the story focuses on the failed murder attempt on Skyblade, than the successful murder attempt on Delthion.

There aren't many clues as to who killed Del, but I agree that it was probably someone in the same room.  But it could be anyone...

Who tried to kill Skyblade?  There is plenty of info about that, but I have no idea what is a clue and what isn't.

Here is a possible clue: Eul carried four bottles of water.  That's unusual.  Maybe she put blue food colouring in it and attempted to use that to kill Skyblade?

Apart from that, Groddil raises a good point about Søren, and Eul about Sage.

I'm not voting yet, though.

Okay, so here is something. Could Eul and Rosie maybe both be Blue? Or maybe just Rosie. Because Rosie got Skittles, a candy which can, in time, turn water a color. And depending on the package, she could have A) Taken it and put it in one of Eul's bottles and then loaded the gun, B) They could have both planned it, or C) Eul did what Rosie would have done.

Also, something more on the Del and Fatch thing. I feel that knowing I am not one of the Mafia (I know that's a risky thing to say, but if so, why would I be trying so hard to get someone else out, especially if they may be on my team?), leaves those options with those two clues. And when you look at it, neither Fatch nor Soren get more than a mention about which room they are in. I'm really stuck here now.

That's actually a really good point about the Skittles. Obviously, I disagree with me being involved with it, but that could be something. It's possible that Red is the boys and Blue is the girls. Then again, wouldn't it make sense for the Mafia teams to already be provided their colors and stuff by the people hosting the game? How else would we know what team killed someone if the Mafia can't find anything with their color to kill someone with?

I disagree about the gender thing. If the mafia teams were both 1-gendered, then once all the town was dead, they'd just stay in their rooms. The only way to kill off the opposing team would be to leave the safety of their room, which also means that the opposing team could kill you. It'd be a ratio of 2:1, yes, but I seriously doubt that either of the teams are completely 1-gendered.

I said it was a possibility, not a cold hard fact :P

Also, Night comes and Mafia will choose and kill their victim, it's the rules. Staying in the rooms wouldn't do anything.

You're thinking about it as if we could choose what room we're in. The room eludes to who the killer is (assuming the clue is in the rooms), not that the room would be of any protection one way or another.

I like that idea about Eul and the water bottles. Didn't know Skittles changes water color.
I also like what Eul said about Sage. I'm leaning mostly towards Sage.

And I'm sorry for being defensive, I forgot that's a death sentence ::)

You know, I'm really wanting to vote either Soren or Fatch, but I'll see if Fatch has anything so say before I vote.

There are enough possible clues to identify every player left in the game as a mafia in that story.  ;D I do think the emphasis on groups and location is not an accident. It's reoccurring and detailed. Someone smart - get on that and tell us what you think!  ;D

Now to deal with a few other possibilities and things...

1) It should be remembered the Sky isn't necessarily confirmed town. The mafia could target one another, and a doctor can save a mafia from another mafia. So don't rule her out completely.  :P

2) I think the fact that one group of mafia did target her gives her ideas some validity. Perhaps she was right about one of them in her suspicions. Then again, they may have just been intimidated by her playing style. (I know I would be :o.)

3) Delthion was part of a group of mafia. It's very possible they would vote together - that's what mafia usually do. Two games ago, Corn and Rosie voted together every round until near the end. Del voted for himself, so I would recommend keeping a close eye on the people that didn't vote for Daskar. That mafia group may be keeping a low profile by abstaining.

4) I find it odd that Gonff thinks its me not because there is a clue indicating me, but because there isn't.  ;D Like, what kind of logic is that? I never left my room seems to suggest that I didn't do anything, not the opposite. The reason I bring this up, is that Gonff has been really smart in previous rounds, and he rarely throws something like that out there. I second what Sky said earlier about him being quiet and less analytical than he has been in past rounds.

5) I think Groddil may be onto something with Soren and Del sending messages. They could have been planning who to accuse as mafia, who to vote for or who to kill next night. Either way, most town roles are most likely only to exchange messages with James. They wouldn't exchange with one another because they aren't sure who is mafia and who isn't. Mafia alone are sure about who is mafia and who isn't. This would make Delthion and Soren (as mafia cohorts) very comfortable to message one another.

Either that, or they easily could have been talking to other people about completely different things.  :D It's a toss up.

So yeah, right now I'm leaning towards sending my vote Soren's way. I'm going to wait a bit to see how the other leads and ideas play out. Please post defenses, accused! We mainly only executed Daskar because he didn't defend himself at all.

Also, I really like the stuff Eul was saying. I'm going to look into that some more before I decide who to vote for.

Okay, so why I think you staying back would point to you.

Well, you wouldn't be gone with the others. That would give you time with Del while y'all waited for the soap and such, and maybe make you trust him some more. Plus, that was some time for you to plan with. But, this could be used for Soren who has just one more clue on him than anyone else. I'm not saying this evidence is strong in the slightest, but it's that I have two options, and I'm just hoping to vote the right one out.

Also, about me not being as anylitical. Everyone in this game but four people have a role. I think that now that there are six (now five), people along with a couple other roles that can kill you, you don't want to right then and there throw out everything you have on everybody. I'm only sharing right now my very sure thoughts. I still have a whole thought plan on what the heck was going on with everybody leaving, and I'm waiting to see if I get that right.

If us accused are supposed to post defenses, I was just telling Groddil to cool his jets. Del and me PM all the time, especially about shipping and stuff from the SFC. I have a ton of messages from him. The Master and Shadow shippers, remember?

@Gonff the Mousethief ... I've got me eye on you friend-O!  ;D

I'm interested to hear your secret theories though. Be sure to post them if it looks like you're going to die! Wouldn't want to miss out on solid evidence!

@Søren This explanation, I can certainty believe. Especially given you two's antics in the cellars and hideouts. :D :P

I'm going to wait on voting for someone then.

Sorry to shoot down the idea of skittles = Mafia, but as James says,

Quote...also pass out some food coloring to put in the water, so that people who get killed will know which team got 'em."

Some other people are still waiting to vote, so I'll look over the story for my own investigating (and the stuff you guys said)

I will probably vote either Gonff or Rosie. Søren also fell out of my Town list.
Also, I will be as aggressive as usual, so please don't take anything personally.

Gonff. What makes me uneasy is his reaction to my calling him out. This page (http://www.loamhedgeabbey.com/index.php/topic,775.60.html) has it. This is actually a Mafia clue: a Mafia member hides low, but will post if he feels others are suspecting him. In the story, Gonff was one of the people at the front desk. He was one of the few people there when I mentioned going to the ice machine. I have more evidence, but this post is already quite long.

Yesterday, Rosie also posted right after being called out, saying that she didn't know it was Day or Night. I don't believe that. She voted in the poll, so she clearly knew it was day. This contradiction between her words and actions really worries me.

Søren I personally thought was Town yesterday. However, his posts today are more on the "could be Town, could be Mafia" side. Also, I wasn't going to take Groddil at face value when he said Sor and Del were PMing, but Søren didn't deny it. I think it's a big clue if they were PMing around the same time.

EDITS: I'm flip-flipping between Gonff and Rosie. Sorry, I'll stop editing now :P

Quote from: Skyblade on September 12, 2016, 06:50:39 PM
I will probably vote either Gonff or Rosie. Søren also fell out of my Town list.
Also, I will be as aggressive as usual, so please don't take anything personally.

Gonff. What makes me uneasy is his reaction to my calling him out. This page (http://www.loamhedgeabbey.com/index.php/topic,775.60.html) has it. This is actually a Mafia clue: a Mafia member hides low, but will post if he feels others are suspecting him. In the story, Gonff was one of the people at the front desk. He was one of the few people there when I mentioned going to the ice machine. I have more evidence, but this post is already quite long.

Yesterday, Rosie also posted right after being called out, saying that she didn't know it was Day or Night. I don't believe that. She voted in the poll, so she clearly knew it was day. This contradiction between her words and actions really worries me.

Søren I personally thought was Town yesterday. However, his posts today are more on the "could be Town, could be Mafia" side. Also, I wasn't going to take Groddil at face value when he said Sor and Del were PMing, but Søren didn't deny it. I think it's a big clue if they were PMing around the same time.

EDITS: I'm flip-flipping between Gonff and Rosie. Sorry, I'll stop editing now :P

This so perfectly describes what I am thinking as well. Soren, Rosie, Gonff may all be Mafia...

I know saying anything will make people want to vote for me even more but here we go. I was explaining the reason why I hadn't posted much before then. I understood it when everyone started voting for other people though. I'm also not the best at analyzing stuff so I just wait until other people find the clues - or what they think are clues - and I just try and find out who I think seems most suspicious.  ;D

Well if you choose me Sky, then I truly believe you all will have beaten the odds of getting my just one, but two regular Town folk out in a row. Then y'all all would be in danger.

Voting out multiple town in a row is not a rarity, nor is it dangerous yet.

I'd like to point out what James stated early-on, that roles were randomized, so any argument against a 1 gendered team being highly unlikely simply because it doesn't seem like a good strategy is not a good argument. It's still very possible that a mafia team could be 1 gendered. (this is related back to what groddil was saying back a page)

I am just going 'What?' I have no idea of what to make of this. I think I shall just go back and read posts. Again.

Well, have y'all come to any conclusions?

To be honest, I'm still stuck between Gonff, Rosie, and Soren. I'll vote Soren this round since he already has one vote and will be more likely to gain traction; I don't see anyone except Fatch agreeing with me on Gonff and Rosie and I don't want to vote for someone who won't even get lynched. And I have no evidence against Sage.

But Gonff and Rosie, I still have my eyes on you :P

Quote from: Fatch2) I think the fact that one group of mafia did target her gives her ideas some validity. Perhaps she was right about one of them in her suspicions. Then again, they may have just been intimidated by her playing style. (I know I would be :o.)

I was thinking about this as well (especially since it was me that was targeted :P). If either of the Mafia attempt to kill me again tonight, it may be worth looking into the people I've been suspecting.

Also, I'd thank you for the compliment, but you may be Mafia and just making that up ;D

Lets hope we're voting out the right person this time...

Soren - for all the reasons mentioned before. First and foremost, however, because he is a patriot's fan.  ;D ;D

Of course! Patriot fans are bound to kill SOMEONE once in a while! ;D

Quote from: Fatch of Southsward on September 15, 2016, 04:52:14 AM
Lets hope we're voting out the right person this time...

Soren - for all the reasons mentioned before. First and foremost, however, because he is a patriot's fan.  ;D ;D

Quote from: Sagetip on September 15, 2016, 11:55:23 AM

Quote from: Fatch of Southsward on September 15, 2016, 04:52:14 AM
Lets hope we're voting out the right person this time...

Soren - for all the reasons mentioned before. First and foremost, however, because he is a patriot's fan.  ;D ;D

Lalallalala lalalalalala lalalalalalalaaa

Quote from: Aimless Gallivanter on September 15, 2016, 01:02:33 PM

Quote from: Sagetip on September 15, 2016, 11:55:23 AM

Quote from: Fatch of Southsward on September 15, 2016, 04:52:14 AM
Lets hope we're voting out the right person this time...

Soren - for all the reasons mentioned before. First and foremost, however, because he is a patriot's fan.  ;D ;D

I love that song.

Sor, you don't have majority vote yet. If you can persuade those who haven't voted yet, you might have a chance as long as you don't get one more vote. I myself still haven't decided.

I'm probably going to vote for Søren, but I want to think a little more before doing so.

Did anyone else notice Ashenwyte voted for himself?

No, I hadn't. Good spot, Chip!

I'm going to vote for Sage, for these reasons stated by Eul on Page 8. Link: http://www.loamhedgeabbey.com/index.php/topic,775.105.html

Remember guys, Sage is who you should look out for. I'm getting voted out, but look into Sagetip.

@Jaaaaaaaaammmmeesssssss

Quote from: Søren on September 17, 2016, 04:45:11 PM
Remember guys, Sage is who you should look out for. I'm getting voted out, but look into Sagetip.

@Søren Why?

Actually, I do not suspect Sagetip. I have no reason to; he's acting as normal as he usually is. I could be interpreting the story wrong, but I think the fact that he suddenly and randomly followed me to the ice machine is too blatant to mean Mafia. In fact, I'm thinking he is a Town power role - namely, the Anti-Blue Tracker/Stalker. That would match him literally doing the same thing I do, for seemingly no reason.

Night is coming, but I don't have much else to report. You all know who I suspect.

WAIT. I just thought of a strategy to catch the Red Mafia.

Spoiler

Figure out which of the forum members are Communists.

[close]

James, who had taken out his phone during the voting discussion, looked up. "Come to a conclusion, have you? Soren's going out? All right, then."

There was a long pause, as James continued to fiddle with his phone. The members watched, getting more restless. Peony said "Jaaaaaaaaammmmeesssssss", in an unmistakably loud, sing-song tone, but he showed no signs of responding.

After what seemed like hours, James looked up, seemingly perplexed. "Y'all are still here? It's getting late. At the risk of ripping off another member's line, you should be going to bed."

The players and members were visibly frustrated at this point.

James put his phone in his pocket. "I guess you're waiting for me. Well, I'll oblige. Time to go back to our rooms!" He stretched, and made as though to step away from the podium, but hesitated for a beat. "Oh, by the way, Soren was a Blue Mafia Role Cop."

September 11, 2016, 06:44:25 pm   Groddil   3   Søren
September 11, 2016, 11:18:54 pm   Søren   11   Sagetip
Posts non-existent, potential clues point to him.
September 14, 2016, 05:23:33 am   Skyblade   3   Søren
September 14, 2016, 07:17:00 am   Lord Ashenwyte   9   Lord Ashenwyte
September 14, 2016, 07:34:49 am   Fatch of Southsward   3   Søren
September 14, 2016, 07:42:24 am   Gonff the Mousethief   3   Søren
September 15, 2016, 05:55:28 am   Sagetip   3   Søren
September 15, 2016, 07:03:05 am   Aimless Gallivanter   3   Søren
September 17, 2016, 03:52:40 pm   Peony   11   Sagetip
September 17, 2016, 11:37:19 am   Rosie Willowwater   3   Søren

The second night phase has begun. The Red Mafia team should discuss who they want to try to kill amongst themselves, and PM me their decision. The surviving Blue Mafia player should also send me their kill choice, if they wish to make a kill. Everyone with a special role should also PM me, to tell me who they want to use their power on. (If you have a 1-Shot role and don't want to use it tonight, you should still contact me, so that I don't wait extra time for you in case you want to use it.)

Never trust a patriots fan ya'll...  ;D

Well done town!

Now we just have those red ones to deal with and one last blue one - and there's a few too many to be comfortable with.

Also, question: Soren were those PMs with Del actually you guys talking about mafia, or was that just bad luck?

I can answer that, yes that was Mafia conversation. ;D So whoever observed the "Who's Online" did a good job in that department, there were two other members messaging back and forth that I noticed. But I am not allowed to say their names. ;D

Wow! Well spotted Groddil (I think it was Groddil...?(

That's some impressive detective work!

The shipping PMs were a week earlier. ;)

Rhe? Who's that?

Oops.  I was too late.

Oh well.  It doesn't matter.  Things aren't going very well for the blue mafia, are they?

And, for the record, the poll results:

Quote from: Aharr, which of your mateys should walk the plank!?
Timestamp   Member   Choice   Choice Label   /   Comment
11 September 2016, 19:44:25   Groddil   3   Søren
12 September 2016, 00:18:54   Søren   11   Sagetip
Posts non-existent, potential clues point to him.
14 September 2016, 06:23:33   Skyblade   3   Søren
14 September 2016, 08:17:00   Lord Ashenwyte   9   Lord Ashenwyte
14 September 2016, 08:34:49   Fatch of Southsward   3   Søren
14 September 2016, 08:42:24   Gonff the Mousethief   3   Søren
15 September 2016, 06:55:28   Sagetip   3   Søren
15 September 2016, 08:03:05   Aimless Gallivanter   3   Søren
17 September 2016, 12:37:19   Rosie Willowwater   3   Søren
17 September 2016, 16:52:40   Peony   11   Sagetip

Well that was an oops on my part.

This should be interesting. I have theories now! Yay!

Anyone have anything worth talking about?

@JAMES GRYPHON!

Quote from: Peony on September 25, 2016, 11:40:00 PM
@JAMES GRYPHON!

Don't get all worked up. Sheesh.

Can't a guy have a breakdown every once in a while?

All the orders came in a few days ago; I've been late getting the story in, but I should have that up tonight or tomorrow.

Quote from: James Gryphon on September 26, 2016, 03:53:12 AM

Quote from: Peony on September 25, 2016, 11:40:00 PM
@JAMES GRYPHON!

Don't get all worked up. Sheesh. I wasn't, I was just trying to get your attention.

Can't a guy have a breakdown every once in a while? Mm. I suppose.

All the orders came in a few days ago; I've been late getting the story in, but I should have that up tonight or tomorrow. Okayyyyy.

After too long a delay, and some severe writer's block...

It was a dark and stormy night. A very loud and dramatic thunderstorm blew in around 10 PM, and lasted all night, only receding when the sun began to come up. The members weren't unduly bothered by this, though -- in spite of James' insinuation that the members should go to bed at 8 PM, they, said moderator included, proceeded to spend the next eight hours playing one of his more bizarre concoctions, "Ultimate World Domination RISK".

Even though a lot of the members said they didn't particularly like Risk, it had managed to turn into an enjoyable event nevertheless. Sage kept up a lively conversation with Peony most of the night, drawing more than a little attention from Ashe, and several grotesquely bright grins from Delthion. Sky made a point of keeping Peony entertained after the latter was eliminated from the game, keeping up a stream of puns that were able to bring a wry smile to her face. Fatch played a masterful diplomatic game, enthralling early eliminee Galliver, who seemed to hang on his every word. Eulaliaaa played a stout defensive game with her chosen ally, Gonff, on one occasion saving him from Matthias' invasion with a well-timed missile strike. Rosie played with undeniable vigor, making and breaking several alliances, and taking advantage of cards and a lucky series of dice rolls to frustrate Daniel's expansion and wipe out Rain's forces in the biggest stab of the game.

At last, though, it began to wind down. The majority of members, having been eliminated, first began to trickle upstairs around 2 AM, finally leaving only James and the two 'alliances' to finish the game. After a dramatic showdown between the final surviving alliances of Sky, Groddil and Chipster, and Søren, Del and Daskar, the last Green army gave up the ghost in Myanmar, and the remaining exhausted players began to find their way back to their rooms an hour later.

At 5 AM, Jet woke up and decided to go to the bathroom. After flushing, he stepped back into the darkened room, squinting to try to adjust to the dramatic change from light to dark. He didn't see anything, but heard the sound of a plastic trigger depressing, and felt the stream of water as it hit his nightshirt...

Startled by the sudden attack, Jet instinctively let out a yell. There was the sound of somebody's body hitting a mattress, as they ran back into their sleeping place; meanwhile, the other people in the room began to stir, brought back to life by the noise.

After five minutes, when the lights were turned on and everyone in 218 was up (except for Groddil, who remained in place, snoring), there was no doubt that Jet had been successfully hit by the Red Mafia. Nobody had seemed to see anything. Chipster did comment that while he had been awake, he couldn't hear anything over the sound of Groddil, who was the closest to him.

The sun came up to reveal that Fatch had also received attention the past night, with a blue stain on the back of his shirt. Fatch didn't seem to remember having been shot at any point; Galli surmised that the hit must have taken place while they were walking up to their rooms, when the rain was falling hard and such a shot was likely to go unnoticed.

James revealed, to the Town's dismay and a few players' hidden delight, that both of the 'deceased' were Town, Jet being a vanilla Townie, and Fatch a 1-Shot Blue-Finding Detective. After a morning repast, the players held their elimination vote at about 10 AM.

--- TL;DR ---

Jet the binturong, a vanilla Townie, is dead.
Fatch of Southsward, a Town 1-Shot Blue-Finding Detective, is also dead.
The third Day phase has begun.

Alas and alack! Woe is me! What a way to die! A young man, shot down in his prime! Woe, I tell you! WOE!

Okay so the first thing I see is that whoever hit Fatch probably wasn't Part of the group that stayed downstairs because of this sentence,

QuoteGalli surmised that the hit must have taken place while they were walking up to their rooms, when the rain was falling hard and such a shot was likely to go unnoticed

And although it's probably way to obvious, couldn't it be possible that Fatch was hit while he was sleeping? And if so then anyone could have hit him not only the first group to go upstairs?

Hmm, well it seems im alone in my room now  ;D. Also, I don't know if this was intentional, but the thing about Rosie jumping alliances was quite hilarious.


Okay, so I'm feeling that it may be Groddil. He was sleeping in while the others were wide awake, and it seems he could have been waiting for someone all night, then in turn be tired. I dunno.

A few clues I noticed while reading:

Groddil is the only one making a lot of noise, if any, after Jet is taken out. We're told there's the sound of the murderer jumping into bed, and Chipster tells us that he couldn;'t hear anything over Groddil's sounds. Not snores, sounds. Groddil covering up the sound of the gun, perhaps?

But no. Because Jet clearly hears the sound of the trigger, meaning Groddil couldn't have been covering it up. Furthermore, that means Chipster is wrong. That, or he's a mafia member backing up Groddil, who is now my chief suspect.

Second clue: This is more of a theory. Fatch is noted to have a stain on the back of his shirt, but how could he have gotten a stain on his shirt if it were part of his nightclothes? Again, Galli could be lying, but there's less of an implication since she wasn't in his room, and probably wouldn't have been able to sneak in for the night kill that I'm suspecting. Fatch could just as well have been killed during the walk to his room, but that doesn't mean that it's not possible he was killed in his sleep.

That's just my two cents.

Problem is that I wasn't even here for a week. Soren died during the time I was gone, and I'm pretty sure James said that he'd already received who was dying from the Mafia before I even got back. How could I have conspired with my buddies then?

In real life, I'm also a very heavy sleeper, not sure if anyone else knows that. I WOULD sleep through what happened.

Finally, with the three blue mafia dead, at least it'll be easier now for Town to dispose of the red guys.

Personally, I'm not sure who to expect. The two surviving alliances could point to something, but we know that Daskar isn't blue mafia, so they could just be random.

Also, bit of an OOC bit here:

@James: Isn't Soren dead? How could he be playing RISK?

They're not dead, just eliminated. It's like a game of Assassin.

Quote from: Sagetip on September 27, 2016, 11:55:40 PM
They're not dead, just eliminated. It's like a game of Assassin.

Yeah, but he's also on the vote out list.

Awh, they done got me!  :D

I love that Delthion is "grinning grotesquely" because Sage and Peony were talking. Classic Delthion right there! ( ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D)

Also, I like that you (accurately) predicted that I would enjoy playing Risk. It's one of my favorite games! Unfortunately, there are not many people that want to play Risk these days. It's too long and complicated for them.  :(

Anyway, I'm dead, so I'll shut up now!

Quote from: Groddil on September 27, 2016, 11:56:31 PM
Yeah, but he's also on the vote out list.

Thought I fixed that.

Oh well; it should be now.

Made a minor change to a couple of words in the story, to make it more clear.

I'm voting for Peony today and that's going to take a lot to change. After reading over what went down on Day 2, I am extremely suspicious of her. The way she is acting really suggests that she may be the last Blue Mafia. Also, it's advantageous to the Town to get rid of a faction; then this will turn into a normal game of Mafia with only one group and one person dying each night.

Refer to this page (http://www.loamhedgeabbey.com/index.php/topic,775.135.html) for my evidence. Also, here's one of the quotes:

Quote from: Peony on September 15, 2016, 03:27:02 PMSor, you don't have majority vote yet. If you can persuade those who haven't voted yet, you might have a chance as long as you don't get one more vote. I myself still haven't decided.

I have played Mafia with Peony many times, and usually she does not try this hard to keep someone from being voted out. If it happens, it happens. But the way she asked Søren to defend himself strikes me as odd. She then votes with Soren for Sage. I can see why a Blue Mafia would do this. Del got killed, so if Søren also gets voted out, the Blue Mafia would be left alone. Of course they would fight hard to keep their last partner alive.

Unlike the accusations made so far, this is based on posts rather than clues that could be far more easily misinterpreted.

It's just too suspicious for me NOT to vote for her.

EDIT: The story also makes sense with Peony being Blue Mafia, as the location where Fatch was shot is surmised to be outside his room.

The story with Peony would make sense if she was blue, but they're all 'dead' now, aren't they?

It wouldn't make sense for her to defend him if she was red, though.

EDIT: Whoops, never mind, I misread the post and thought Fatch was actually a blue mafia, not somebody who could FIND the blue mafia. In that case, this does seem like it would make sense. So right now, since I'm not stupid enough to vote for myself, I'll wait and see if there's anything else that points to somebody else. If not, I'll probably go with Corn too.

I think you misread the story. Fatch was a 1-Shot Blue Detective. There's still one Blue Mafia left. EDIT: Never mind.

I agree that she probably wouldn't do that as Red, but I also don't see why she'd do that as Town. The most plausible reason for uncharacteristically trying to keep Søren from being voted out is being on the same team as him.

*Shrugs* Here we go again.

I have forgotten my theories. . . . . . . .

I've been feeling somewhat depressed all week, and the forum was offline all day yesterday.  So I didn't really get any chance to analyze this yet.  But let's try now...

I don't see how Groddil could have killed Jet since he was on vacation for most of the night.  And besides, whoever killed Jet is red mafia. I think it would be better to try to vote out the last blue mafia, because otherwise, two people will die tonight, unless someone gets blocked or protected.

The link in Skyblade's post is broken since the switch from Soopergrape! to Loamhedge.xyz.  Hopefully redirects will be set up on the old website, but until then here is a new link:
http://loamhedgeabbey.com/index.php?topic=775.135

Anyway, her argument against Peony seems to make sense.  I may vote for her, but I will wait to see what other people say.

Just FYI, the link thing is a real hassle, and I'm trying to figure out how to fix it. In the meantime, though, any link that's broken, you can copy it and replace the "loamhedgeabbey.com" with "loamhedgeabbey.com" to get there.

I think it's kind of accidental cheating for Groddil to leave like that and pretty much get solid proof that he's not mafia.

However, he could still have a one-shot role, which means I;m removing my vote but still keeping an eye on him.

Not really. If he was an individual or Blue Mafia, he could have sent me orders in advance. And if he was Red Mafia, his team could have gotten a majority decision without him.

*shrug*

A lot of people on this forum are clearly not doing well IRL :-\ Hope things get better for you all. That doesn't mean I'll go easier on you in the game (:P), but outside the competition, I'm cheering for you guys.

Regarding Groddil: All the evidence is apparent clues, and we all know how I feel about that ::) I know I seem too against using clues, but after all the fails I've seen with Town voting people just because of things they read in the story, I think I'm right to be leery.

~~

Ash is unnerving me. He hasn't posted all game, despite still being active on the forum. The reason this is unsettling is that 1) I HAVE seen Mafia use the strategy of not posting/barely posting to win, which is REALLY frustrating and 2) People who don't post tend to get overlooked, even though they have an equal, actually I'd say greater, chance of being Mafia. Just because someone is not posting doesn't mean we can write them off as Innocent.

Another person who's been flying under the radar is Eul. She has also been active on the forum but inactive here for some reason. This is uncharacteristic behavior from her. She's usually very active and thoughtful (refer to Presidential Mafia, where she was Town (http://loamhedgeabbey.com/index.php?topic=469.0)), but in this game she's made only a few posts and hasn't voted once. In past games, Eul has usually (if not always) been Town. So if she's Mafia this time, it would make sense for her to come off a bit differently. Now that I type this, I'm getting more and more unnerved.

Okay, I went back to look at Presidential Mafia, and I just found a post by Eul that ramped up by suspicions x 5

Quote from: Eulaliaaa! on June 01, 2016, 07:54:38 PM
I would just like to say that I am always this thoughtful in Mafia :P And if I were Mafia, I'd probably be lurking in the background with the others. Since no one that's lurking is really being suspected, it seems safer. But even the lurking ones who aren't Mafia are hurting the Town.

This just matches exactly why I'm suspecting her. Oh my goodness. Sorry, I'm kinda freaking out right now :P

Today it's between Peony and Eul for me. This is nuts. They're both so suspicious.

EDIT: Been thinking about this, and I think my vote really is going to Eul. This is a really tough decision because I still suspect Peony, but I see more evidence for Eul now.

If you read through Presidential Mafia, you'll find quite a few posts in which Town Eul complains about how inactive everyone is. I can't blame her (in fact, I agree), but the fact that she is rejecting her own philosophy in this game is unnerving.

QuoteThe sun came up to reveal that Fatch had also received attention the past night, with a blue stain on the back of his shirt. Fatch didn't seem to remember having been shot at any point; Galli surmised that the hit must have taken place while they were walking up to their rooms, when the rain was falling hard and such a shot was likely to go unnoticed.

I have a few things to say to this. Who would have shot Fatch while we were all walking back together? Someone would have seen it. This doesn't mean Galli is Mafia, it would be too obvious. I think it happened while he was sleeping. That means the Blue Mafia must be a guy, since girls aren't allowed in the boys room.

@Skyblade Sorry my posts aren't more detailed or frequent. Play practice has started again which means I go straight from school to play practice that ends at 6, barely have time to shove food down my throat and throw on my gi before I rush over to Jiu Jitsu that starts at 6:15, then I get home at around 8. I'm also drowning in homework and fighting to keep my grades up. I've been lurking more than anything, lately  :-\

I'll post more tomorrow when I have time.

Quote from: Storyhave taken place while they were walking up to their rooms, when the rain was falling hard and such a shot was likely to go unnoticed

It says that it probably happened while the rain was distracting everyone. No, the Blue Mafia isn't necessarily male. Granted, I may be biased since my strongest suspects are both female.

Also, I understand IRL is busy. I'm not mad or anything. But at the same time, I can't just go with the things you say. Why? Because this is Mafia, a game in which anyone can be lying. Jet made the "I'm busy" excuse as Mafia in a past game, so I'm leery of it.

On another note, lurking and then showing up right after you've been mentioned is actually a clue I picked up from the Mafia forum.

Quote from: Skyblade on October 01, 2016, 05:28:10 AM
Also, I understand IRL is busy. I'm not mad or anything. But at the same time, I can't just go with the things you say. Why? Because this is Mafia, a game in which anyone can be lying. Jet made the "I'm busy" excuse as Mafia in a past game, so I'm leery of it.

Which one? In any case, it was probably true.

I honestly have no idea right now. . . . Aaaahh.

Arggh!  This is so complicated!

But it is suspicious how Eul suddenly shows up to defend herself despite not having posted for a while.

I don't really have any good response other than last time I was voted out for inactivity and posting when I was mentioned, I was the Detective.

I don't know if I really care at this point. It'd be one less thing to worry about :P you can vote me out if you want - wouldn't be good for the Town, but it doesn't matter to me.

Anyhow, my vote goes for Ashe.

Quote from: Eulaliaaa! on October 02, 2016, 12:50:29 AM
I don't really have any good response other than last time I was voted out for inactivity and posting when I was mentioned, I was the Detective.

I don't know if I really care at this point. It'd be one less thing to worry about :P you can vote me out if you want - wouldn't be good for the Town, but it doesn't matter to me.

Anyhow, my vote goes for Ashe.

Avoiding the question, not backing up her vote, I'm going to vote for Eul.

Quote from: Eulaliaaa! on October 02, 2016, 12:50:29 AM
Anyhow, my vote goes for Ashe.

Why?

@Groddil what question?

Also, I'm voting for Ashe because he's not posting, which isn't the best evidence, but I don't have time to comb through the stories and make a huge detailed post like I normally do.

The last Blue Mafia is a guy which, not to brag, means I was right. Blue Mafia for the guys, Red Mafia for the girls.

Quote from: Eulaliaaa! on October 02, 2016, 04:58:03 AM
@Groddil what question? Not really a question. More like when Sky started accusing you, all you said was 'Last game I was inactive when I was the detective.' Pretty poor defence, considering you yourself said in Predisential Mafia that you'd lay low if you were Mafia.

Also, I'm voting for Ashe because he's not posting, which isn't the best evidence, but I don't have time to comb through the stories and make a huge detailed post like I normally do. Until Sky called you out on it, neither were you.

The last Blue Mafia is a guy which, not to brag, means I was right. Says who? You just developed that theory a few posts ago, got nothing to back it up, and now you're saying its fact? (You did the same thing in the Tiria thread, actually. You said your pronunciation WAS, without a doubt, the right one, then said a few posts later that you didn't even know if that's how it's said. Pattern, or co-incidence?) James said the whole "boy/girl room" thing, and he said it didn't really matter as to who the Mafia could actually kill. Plus, they can just catch their target outside the room like nearly every murderer so far has. Blue Mafia for the guys, Red Mafia for the girls.

Hit thank instead of quote. ::)

Time for y'all to decide your votes.

I vote James. ;)

Who voted for me? Aww, Rosie. Why?

It was a choice between you and Eul and sorry, I chose you.

Eulaliaaa! This is all so confusing, but the arguments against her seem to be the most convincing.

i wish i could contribute more in this, but ive been so busy all i can do is skim through some theories and go along with the popular vote :/
i would like to say, i think James' choice to group people together in threes twice so far has just been a red herring, and im glad none of us had taken those to heart yet or voted based on those. does that make sense?

Quote from: Rosie Willowwater on October 04, 2016, 06:47:19 PM
It was a choice between you and Eul and sorry, I chose you.

. . . . .

I'm still confused as to why.

Quote from: Skyblade on September 28, 2016, 06:30:54 AM
I'm voting for Peony today and that's going to take a lot to change. After reading over what went down on Day 2, I am extremely suspicious of her. The way she is acting really suggests that she may be the last Blue Mafia. Also, it's advantageous to the Town to get rid of a faction; then this will turn into a normal game of Mafia with only one group and one person dying each night.

Refer to this page (http://www.loamhedgeabbey.com/index.php/topic,775.135.html) for my evidence. Also, here's one of the quotes:

Quote from: Peony on September 15, 2016, 03:27:02 PMSor, you don't have majority vote yet. If you can persuade those who haven't voted yet, you might have a chance as long as you don't get one more vote. I myself still haven't decided.

I have played Mafia with Peony many times, and usually she does not try this hard to keep someone from being voted out. If it happens, it happens. But the way she asked Søren to defend himself strikes me as odd. She then votes with Soren for Sage. I can see why a Blue Mafia would do this. Del got killed, so if Søren also gets voted out, the Blue Mafia would be left alone. Of course they would fight hard to keep their last partner alive.

Unlike the accusations made so far, this is based on posts rather than clues that could be far more easily misinterpreted.

It's just too suspicious for me NOT to vote for her.

EDIT: The story also makes sense with Peony being Blue Mafia, as the location where Fatch was shot is surmised to be outside his room.

Note to self: Don't point out simple facts anymore. It will get you killed.

Voting me out is a bad idea. I'm a doctor. I'm just saying that so you can be all like "What a stereotypical Mafia strategy for staying in the game" or "You're being so dramatic you couldn't possibly be Town" or "I'm calling your bluff, liar. Die, Mafia!", but then I can see your reaction after I'm dead and be like "Haha, suckers! I told you so!" And laugh, then cry because I'm out of the game, but also be relieved because I don't have time to this game. Also, because last time I said something like that before I got voted out, I was the Detective.

Run-on sentences :P

Oh my. Sowwee, Eul. I'm refraining from voting unless I have to, but I really don't think you're a Mafia. I could be wrong (And likely am, since Sor fooled me) but that's where I stand.

Well, I will admit that I am a bit more nervous now, but it's not impossible for Eul to be lying.

@Eulaliaaa! "Doctor" is a bit vague, don't you think? Which doctor are you?

Anti-Blue Doctor, if you want me to be specific.

Hmm, ok. I was asking because it makes sense for a Mafia member to make vague claims about being a role to avoid being voted. But to claim a specific role is more risky because the person who actually IS that role could post with "What are you talking about? I'M __, not you".

So, if you're telling the truth, you're the one who saved me on Night 1! Awkward. Hmm. I may or may not believe this claim.

@Gonff the Mousethief
@Groddil
@Aimless Gallivanter
@Lord Ashenwyte
@Rosie Willowwater
@Sagetip
@Peony
@Chipster of Noonvale

Are any of you the Anti-Blue Doctor? I'm trying to see if Eul is telling the truth here.

If I decide to believe Eul's claim, I'm probably going to vote Ash. I'm less sold on Peony as Mafia because if she was, it would have made sense for her to vote Eul out. (Unless Peony and Eul are Red Mafia together? AAAH. I hate this game :P But if Eul is unlikely to be Mafia, it wouldn't make sense for me to think she's with Peony.)

Ash is both 1) Suspicious and 2) Inactive. A combination of these qualities is good grounds to get someone out. You don't have to worry that someone who isn't posting is Mafia, and even if they were Town it's not like they were helping the game anyway. It's a risk-reward thing.

Nope, just a regular old citizen. I'm still going for her though, simply because the more she pleads the more I feel as if she is lying.

I'm not pleading. I already said I accepted death and can't wait to rub it in your faces that I was the Doctor ;D

@Skyblade you're welcome about saving you, no problem buddy (unless you're a Mafia. That would be not cool :P )

I'm not thanking you just yet, buddy ;) There's always the chance that you're lying.

Also:

Quote from: Eulaliaaa! on October 07, 2016, 03:51:32 AM
I'm not pleading. I already said I accepted death and can't wait to rub it in your faces that I was the Doctor ;D

You technically are pleading when you claim a role, no matter what you call it :P That's why I'm leery to believe you.

I thought the game on the Honeycomb was confusing...

I'm removing my vote...for now.  I may still vote for Eul later, but I'll see...

And no, I'm not the anti-blue doctor.

Quote from: Skyblade on October 07, 2016, 03:37:52 AM
So, if you're telling the truth, you're the one who saved me on Night 1!

Not necessarily.  You may have been saved by the regular doctor.

I think eul will be dead either way. with all this attention on her, and revealing she might be the doctor,  it's a death sentence

Yeah, but this way I get to rub it in your faces, which is better than going anything. If I'm going out, I'm gonna have fun on my way! ;D

I'm still wary.

Quote from: Gonff the Mousethief on October 07, 2016, 03:46:17 AMI'm still going for her though, simply because the more she pleads the more I feel as if she is lying.

@Gonff the Mousethief  Why so?

Sky, I really don't think it's wise to reveal roles just to see if one person is lying. That's not like you.

I didn't ask people to reveal their specific role, just say if they have one role or not. Actually, this is how we do things in the Mafia forum.

Still unsure about Eul. I kinda want to vote her because this game has been dragging and we're never going to get a majority at this rate.

Need one more vote to close this out. Right now it's looking like nobody'll be lynched.

If there hasn't been a resolving vote by, say, the next OO post I make, I think I'll end this phase whether the last vote has come in or not. It's time this game moves along.

I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but what does OO mean?

Nobody else claimed to be the anti-blue doctor, so I guess Eul is telling the truth.  Also Ashenwyte voted for himself again...

All right, Ashenwyte.

Quote from: Chipster of Noonvale on October 10, 2016, 12:15:43 AM
I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but what does OO mean?

Nobody else claimed to be the anti-blue doctor, so I guess Eul is telling the truth.  Also Ashenwyte voted for himself again...

All right, Ashenwyte.

OO - Overlord's Orders

If Sky changes her vote to Ashe, we'll only need Peony or Sage to vote for Ashe as well.

I. . . . . .

*Sighs*

Ashenwyte. Just to get this moving.

I changed my vote, but I'm still pretty uneasy about this :-\

Unless you're the Mafia, you have nothing to worry about.

Honestly, I'm surprised. I had fully excepted death, and I probably won't last the night.

Well, looks like Ash is dying. We'll see what happens tonight; I still am wary of Eul.

After an unusually long discussion time, the last vote came in, and James, who had taken a seat while he waited for the players to make up their minds, made his way back up to the podium.

"It looks like Ashe is going to be the next one to go. I'm a little disappointed by how quiet he's been all this game... and you probably will be too, now that you're finding out that he was a 1-Shot Red-Finding Detective."

"Now that that's over with... today's a free day for y'all to hang out, talk, and play some games. I fully expect some of you to try to make some kills, so in the event that that happens, we'll meet back here tonight for another vote. Have fun!"

Who is not with you, and thus your enemy?
Gonff the Mousethief
- 0 (0%)
Groddil
- 1 (10%)
Eulaliaaa
- 3 (30%)
Skyblade
- 0 (0%)
Aimless Gallivanter
- 0 (0%)
Lord Ashenwyte
- 6 (60%)
Rosie Willowwater
- 0 (0%)
Sagetip
- 0 (0%)
Peony
- 0 (0%)
Chipster of Noonvale
- 0 (0%)
Nobody
- 0 (0%)
Total Members Voted: 10

The third "night" phase has begun. The Red Mafia team should discuss who they want to try to kill amongst themselves, and PM me their decision. The surviving Blue Mafia player should also send me their kill choice, if they wish to make a kill. Everyone with a special role should also PM me, to tell me who they want to use their power on.

You're kidding me.

Quote from: Eulaliaaa! on October 10, 2016, 04:21:04 AM
You're kidding me.

If I make it through the night, which you probably won't allow, you're dead. Deader than disco.

Quote from: Eulaliaaa! on October 10, 2016, 04:21:04 AM
You're kidding me.

I really was disappointed for y'all's sake. I'd like everybody to be active anyway, but it's worse to have an inactive player when they have a role. But, that's how the RNG did it, and I couldn't very well switch player assignments after it was evident Ashe wasn't into this game.

Quote from: James Gryphon on October 10, 2016, 04:24:54 AM

Quote from: Eulaliaaa! on October 10, 2016, 04:21:04 AM
You're kidding me.

I really was disappointed for y'all's sake. I'd like everybody to be active anyway, but it's worse to have an inactive player when they have a role. But, that's how the RNG did it, and I couldn't very well switch player assignments after it was evident Ashe wasn't into this game.

Players should probably think before they do. Making a commitment to drawn out games like this isn't a decision to be made lightly.

Quote from: Groddil on October 10, 2016, 04:24:24 AM

Quote from: Eulaliaaa! on October 10, 2016, 04:21:04 AM
You're kidding me.

If I make it through the night, which you probably won't allow, you're dead. Deader than disco.

What makes you say that?

Quote from: Eulaliaaa! on October 10, 2016, 04:33:08 AM

Quote from: Groddil on October 10, 2016, 04:24:24 AM

Quote from: Eulaliaaa! on October 10, 2016, 04:21:04 AM
You're kidding me.

If I make it through the night, which you probably won't allow, you're dead. Deader than disco.

What makes you say that?

You wanted the anti-red guy dead. Why would that be? You are going to have SO many votes tomorrow. Me, definitely Sky, and probably everyone else who you convinced to vote for Ashe instead of you. It's gonna be good.

How would I know he was a Detective? He wasn't even posting. You voted for him too, so you've made just as much of a mistake as I did. And honestly, an active Doctor is better than an absent Detective.

Hey guys.

Before you all hang me, I'd like to explain.

I have found that Sagetip is NOT a Red Mafia.

I'm also sorry for not being on as real life got in the way.

Thank you.

@Lord Ashenwyte: You're kinda dead and shouldn't be able to talk about game strategy ;), but I'll let it slide since you haven't said anything up to this point, and could've said that much before your demise.

oh whoops should have read the thread haha

It's okay, Ash. I know how that goes. Thanks for telling about Sage. :)

This is waaay overdue. I wish I could blame players for it, but the delay is my fault. I've been flaky lately. :-\

---

After the voting was done, and the members had milled about for a length of time, Chipster brought up the idea of playing tag, suggesting that playing it would be a good way to "warm up" for the rest of the day. Eul seemed agitated, and said, "I'm not sure that's very safe, tearing around the hotel like that. You know, there was a schoolteacher that got paralyzed when a kid ran into her, while playing tag." Groddil seemed incredulous, commenting that the odds of such an injury must be one in a million. Skyblade stated that she thought it would be fine; knowing the girl's usual caution and reticence, this persuaded the vast majority to play.

After picking names randomly, Jet was made "it". To give the game a definite conclusion, it was determined that each person Jet touched would also become "it", and they would continue, spreading "it-dom", until there was only one final untagged person.

The players spread out rapidly in all directions. Although nobody was initially eager to stay too close to another player, due to the limited amount of space in the hotel building, several groups emerged. Sage stayed close to Eul. Sky suggested to Rosie that two sets of eyes were better than one, and the two teamed up without further ado; Galli also managed to join them, apparently to Rosie's annoyance, as she pointed out that "three's a crowd". Daskar, not taking the game seriously, made a spectacle of himself harassing an unhappy Soren, who managed to escape with Delthion only by ducking into a nearby elevator. Chipster and Groddil, who happened to meet near the gym, held a hurried conversation theorizing the best strategy for the game, before parting ways.

After the delay to give everyone time to hide, Jet made his way towards the stairs. He opened the door inside, and caught a glimpse of Fatch up above. The chase was on! Jet climbed with catlike agility, but was unable to catch Fatch before the latter fled through the second story door. Jet came through just moments before the door swung closed, in hot pursuit, and made his way down the walkway. Fatch was fast moving, and had already gotten to the other side of the building. Rather than continue a hopeless chase, Jet ducked into the corner room housing an ice and drink machine, and was rewarded for his diligence by catching an unsuspecting Ashenwyte.

Ashe proved to be a tenacious tagger, and the two combed their way through the building, expertly picking off their prey. Groddil was tagged early, and did his part to help the taggers by cornering and capturing Daniel. With Groddil's knowledge of the near area and where Chipster had been, the group quickly pinned down his location and admitted Chip to their ranks.

With the other players having apparently spread out to more territory, the hunters began to split up into pairs, to more efficiently search the whole hotel. After several minutes with no results, Jet acquired Rain, and Chip got Peony, albeit at the risk of nearly having his head taken off by a flying soda can. One by one, more and more players were discovered, with James and Matthias' conspicuous absence leading the members to jest that they locked themselves in their room.

Meanwhile, Skyblade and her team had found their way to the third floor. After spending close to half an hour in tense anticipation of discovery, Sky's careful watch paid off, as she heard the muffled sound of someone coming down the hallway. She called out softly to Galli, letting her know about the incoming threat. Galli hesitated; when she saw the first glimpse of someone coming in her direction, though, she turned and ran. Reaching the end of that corridor, she jumped reflexively, as she turned to see someone standing right in front of her! Before Galli could react, the person reached out to make the tag. Galli was surprised, but not half so surprised as when, having turned her back on her new teammate, she felt a stream of water hit her back...

Fifteen minutes later, it was all over. James, who had unsportingly hid in a bathroom, emerged somewhat sheepishly to claim his place as the victor. Matthias had already confirmed that Galli had been killed, by a Red team member, and that she had been an Anti-Blue Stalker.

After a few minutes conferring with everyone, James announced that the Blue player had either declined to or had been prevented from making their kill, and as such, it was time for the next vote.

haha RIP

Well, you're probably not going to believe this, but here goes anyway.

I teamed up with someone who's apparently some sort of Roleblocker. Could be lying, I dunno. But we agreed that xe would roleblock Peony tonight. Strangely, the blue mafia seems to have not been able to make any kills. Coincidence? I dunno.

Yeah, I don't believe you.

Isn't it against the rules to PM other players? I know it's happened in past games, but in the Mafia Forum, we're really not supposed to do that :P

I do have to admit, rule-breaking or not, that's a smart strategy. You could manipulate the Roleblocker to do whatever you want. Then again, even if you are telling the truth, how do you know that this person is actually a Roleblocker? They could by lying, you could be wrong, etc. And they may not have listened to you. There's also the possibility that this is a trick from you. Bottom line, I'm not going to jump on your idea without ample reason.

That's a very strange post. It makes me uneasy, but at the same time, I don't know why Mafia would say that. It just brings tons of unnecessary suspicion on them.

I'm probably voting for Eul today, though. Same reasons as yesterday - she is just too suspicious not to vote. I'm suspicious of Peony, but more suspicious of Eul, and I'm not going to trust Groddil just because he says so.

Quote from: Skyblade on October 21, 2016, 12:43:19 AM
Yeah, I don't believe you.

Isn't it against the rules to PM other players? Well, me and Peony, then later me and Eul, were scheming in Presidential Mafia. It says that Mafia can only PM each other at night, but nothing about townies.

I do have to admit, rule-breaking or not, that's a smart strategy. You could manipulate the Roleblocker to do whatever you want. Then again, even if you are telling the truth, how do you know that this person is actually a Roleblocker? They could by lying, you could be wrong, etc. And they may not have listened to you. Still, if they DID roleblock Peony, and she was Blue, it would make sense. Although, like you said, there's the option that they blocked somebody else who happened to be mafia.

QuoteIt says that Mafia can only PM each other at night, but nothing about townies.

Well, okay. I guess I'm used to the Mafia Forum; we may have different rules here.

QuoteStill, if they DID roleblock Peony, and she was Blue, it would make sense. Although, like you said, there's the option that they blocked somebody else who happened to be mafia.

I'm cautious. Firstly, I don't trust you (or anyone). Second, there are just too many ways this could have gone down. Third, it didn't HAVE to be a Roleblocker; there's also an Anti-red Jailkeeper who can roleblock as well.

If I didn't vote Eul, it would be Peony anyway, but...ergh.

Sorry, I'm not contributing much in strategy or game playing these past few games. You guys can all vote me out, I'm kinda done. I'm way too busy and just want to collapse in my bed and sleep through the winter. Sorry for not doing more :P

@Sagetip
@Rosie Willowwater
@Gonff the Mousethief

Why are you all voting for Eul? I know she's suspicious and all, but please state your reasons instead of just voting.

Quote from: Skyblade on September 06, 1974, 02:30:40 PMWhy are you all voting for Eul? I know she's suspicious and all, but please state your reasons instead of just voting.

Because she's suspicious and all ;)

Awww, c'mon James, hiding in the bathroom like that wasn't fair ;D

This was a really confusing storyline this time, no obvious clues.  The only thing we know is that Skyblade and Rosie didn't kill Galli.

I don't trust Groddil, and I don't think anyone else will.  That post is really weird, I really don't know what he tried to achieve.

Eul was almost voted out last round, but instead several of us (including me) changed our votes to inactive Ashenwyte, who was not the last blue mafia.  I'm voting for Eul again this round, because she is still suspicious and nobody provided any convincing arguments against anyone else.

EDIT: We reached a majority very fast...

*Really has no opinion, having lost interest in this especially since the theories were forgotten and so is going along with Eul because of peer pressure and the fact that she wants out*

James stepped up to the microphone. "Chip's right; that was a fast majority." He flashed a grim half-smile. "As it turns out, too fast. Before her untimely demise at the hands of an angry mob, Eulalia moonlighted as a Town Anti-Blue Doctor."

"You didn't ask for advice, but I'll give it to you anyway. Now that Eul's gone, there's 7 players left, 4 of which are Mafia. In other words, you Townies have lost your numerical advantage. You need both the last Blue Mafia to work in your favor, and to get your votes right from now on. You might not win it this next round, but you can certainly lose it. I just hope for your sakes your jailkeeper comes up big."

Who to go?
October 20, 2016, 02:10:46 PM   Sagetip   5   Eulaliaaa
October 20, 2016, 07:36:05 PM   Skyblade   5   Eulaliaaa
October 21, 2016, 07:20:01 AM   Rosie Willowwater   5   Eulaliaaa
October 21, 2016, 07:41:54 AM   Gonff the Mousethief   5   Eulaliaaa
October 21, 2016, 12:16:46 PM   Chipster of Noonvale   5   Eulaliaaa
October 21, 2016, 12:25:45 PM   Peony   5   Eulaliaaa  She wants out. Also, peer pressure.

The fourth and potentially last "night" phase has begun. The Red Mafia team should discuss who they want to try to kill amongst themselves, and PM me their decision. The surviving Blue Mafia player should also send me their kill choice. Finally, the Town Jailkeeper should PM me, to tell me who they want to use their power on.

Quote"Haha, suckers! I told you so!"

;D

Well, aren't we stupid? *Starts sarcastic clapping*

Now that the vote had been done, taking another Townie out of the game, Groddil suggested that the players adjourn for brunch. This sounded good to the other members; Peony, however, mentioned that she had forgotten something in the girls' room and wanted to get it first. Rosie offered to accompany her there; Sky said that she would like to go up too. So, the three set off together.

When they were about half-way up, they heard the sound of someone running behind them, and a voice call Sky's name. Sky turned to see Sage coming in their direction. "You forgot your phone," he said. "And somebody's calling for you. I think it's your parents. I told them you'd be on in just a moment. " Sky motioned for the others to go on, giving Rosie the room key she had borrowed from Rainshadow, and took the call.

Peony and Rosie made it to the door in good time. "Let me get something," Rosie said, "It's right here in one of my pockets." Peony sighed audibly and waited somewhat impatiently for several moments as Rosie searched through everything. Finally, having had enough, Peony turned to Rosie, asking her, "How could you lose the card this quickly? Sky just gave it to you."

Rosie's puzzled expression was replaced with recognition as she took an object out of her left coat pocket. "Here we go, got it. No, I had the card the whole time. I needed this..." Rosie's hand moved, revealing a blue water pistol, which she quickly brought to bear on Peony. Smirking devilishly, she squeezed the trigger several times, creating a distinct blue stain all across the younger girl's shirt.

At first, Peony was surprised, but her shock quickly heated up into anger. Glaring at Rosie, she growled out, "I was planning on wearing this shirt the whole day and now you ruined it. Will this even wash out?! I am so gonna kill you..."

"Oh, I wouldn't be too hasty about that," said a soft male voice. "Not when turnabout is right around the corner."

The last Town victim and the final Blue Mafia looked up to see Chipster standing a short distance away, aiming a gleaming red pistol squarely in Rosie's direction.

"It's high noon in Georgia," Chip said, with a gentle smile. "Draw!"

---

Peony, a vanilla Townie, is dead.
Rosie Willowwater, a Blue Mafia goon, is dead.

The three Red Mafia, Skyblade, Chipster of Noonvale, and Groddil, are victorious!

Sorry for the prolonged delay, but I hope the ending was worth it. This was an interesting game to run. I intend to get y'all a full report of the clues and the night actions shortly.

YAY!

Groddil hosts the next game, then ME

ITS HIIIIIIIIIIIIGH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON

Somewhere in the world, its high noon.

Quote from: Sagetip on October 27, 2016, 12:27:19 PM
It's high noon somewhere in the world.

i fixed it for you

*Sighs* #LastTownieStrong

But I enjoyed this one James. Even though I still am a bit confused on some of the clues, It was overall a fun time.

Well done on the game James!! I had fun :) Now can you tell me what Rosie was up to the round that I asked to stalk her and died please? tho I have a feeling it was her killing me....

Why are you all so happy even though you lost? ;D ;D ;D

THIS MAKES MY DAY. IT WAS SO HARD, BUT WORTH IT.

Thank you @James Gryphon for running this game. It was interesting and enjoyable :) I'm really looking forward to the clues and night actions.

wow sky way to rub it in ;P

Y'know, I think I like Mafia so much is because it makes me look smarter :P

Quote from: Skyblade on October 27, 2016, 03:00:08 PM
Why are you all so happy even though you lost? ;D ;D ;D

THIS MAKES MY DAY. IT WAS SO HARD, BUT WORTH IT.

Thank you @James Gryphon for running this game. It was interesting and enjoyable :) I'm really looking forward to the clues and night actions.

I knew it! You were the Mafia, I knew you were! ;D

Be glad that I jailed Skyblade at the beginning. (Even though it probably didn't do anything, since jailing doesn't block everyone's actions.

Okay, that's hilarious.

Night 0

Quote"We have three rooms, all on the second floor, 204, 208, and 218. 208 and 218 are connected by an adjoining door. The girls will get room 204, and the rest of us will stay in the other two rooms. I'll be in 218, and James and Dan will be in 208. Me and James each have a key to both of our rooms, so ask us if you need to get in. I'm holding on to a key for 204 to give to Rain when she gets here; in the meantime, I've given Gallivanter the other key, to hold on to. Be sure you don't lose it."

Quote"We thought it'd be fair to start things off with some advice, and give y'all a Day vote before the mayhem begins. Pay close attention because I'm not going to give you information like this again; you'll have to watch each other closely and figure it out on your own. With the way the luggage is being distributed, there will be at least one Mafia, from any team, in each room. If y'all manage to get rid of a Mafia in your room, and suddenly the people in the other rooms start taking an interest in getting access to yours, that's a pretty good indication that they could have an ulterior motive."

These clues were "free" and intended to be taken at face value. Most of the rest of the "clues" in the first day were not really fair clues, in the aspiring detective's sense of the word, and rather depended on metagame knowledge.

QuoteDelthion and Daskar began animatedly arguing about something pointless, as Delthion took every opportunity to show off his trademark grin to anyone who would look, and Daskar said that it didn't do the ones on the forum justice.

Originally, this would have been something of a clue towards Del's identity. The Blue team being repackaged werewolves, I would have referred to Del's grin as "toothy". I decided that might have been a little too blatant, however, and left it out.

QuoteSkyblade appeared to be in the middle of a serious conversation with Gonff and Fatch about innermost feelings.

Sky and Gonff are both known for this sort of thing, so it shouldn't be much of a surprise to anyone that's what they might be talking about, but Fatch, not as much. This was intended to be a very subtle 'clue' towards his being an investigator.

QuoteSage took over the air hockey table and challenged all comers.

Like Del, this was a wordplay sort of clue that got axed. Originally I think I'd written that he "locked down" the air hockey table, but wrote it out.

QuoteThere was a spark of tension when Eul mentioned within Peony's earshot that the chicken salad was excellent, but otherwise things went along well.

The general details of this conversation were taken basically verbatim, if I remember right, from another topic on this forum. Not a real clue.

QuoteRosie was particularly hot, with Gallivanter at her heels and Jet coming in a more distant third.

This was a very subtle, unfair wordplay clue about Galli — "chasing" Rosie down. As a result, it also could've been viewed as a subtle hint against Rosie, I guess, if you figured out Galli was the Stalker.

Day 1
1) Delthion - Goon
2) Gonff the Mousethief - Town Citizen
3) Soren - Role Cop
4) Groddil - Goon
5) Eulaliaaa Town Anti-Blue Doctor
6) Skyblade - Roleblocker
7) Aimless Gallivanter - Town Anti-Blue Stalker
8) Fatch of Southsward - Town 1-Shot Blue-Finding Detective
9) Lord Ashenwyte Town 1-Shot Red-Finding Detective
10) Rosie Willowwater - Goon
11) Sagetip - Town Anti-Red Jailkeeper
12) Peony - Town Citizen
13) Jet the binturong - Town Citizen
14) Chipster of Noonvale - Goon
15) Lord Daskar - Town Citizen

—

Daskar is voted out, revealing his identity as a Town Citizen

---

Night 1:
Skyblade chooses Roleblocker
Soren chooses Role Cop

Red Mafia send Groddil to kill Delthion
Blue Mafia send Rosie to kill Skyblade

Skyblade blocks Gonff
Soren investigates Fatch

Sagetip jails Skyblade
Eulalia heals Skyblade
Galliver stalks Skyblade

Results:
Groddil kills Delthion
Rosie attempts to kill Skyblade, but fails
Soren discovers Fatch is a 1-Shot Blue-Finding Detective

QuoteAfter the guys got into their room, they began to sort through their belongings and figure out who would be going where. By the end of it, Søren, Sage, Gonff, Del, and Fatch had decided to stick in 208 with James and Daniel, while Ashe, Groddil, Jet, Chipster and Daskar settled down in 218 with Matthias.

These are somewhat relevant for the purposes of figuring out future kills. 

QuoteSøren hooked his phone up to the wall next to James, commenting that he was lucky that the battery hadn't already gone out.

This was a subtle clue, meant to suggest that Soren had run his battery down talking to his teammates (particularly Rosie).

QuoteMeanwhile in the other room, Daskar bounced around irritating Jet and Groddil.

I tended to use players who had already 'died' for false clues. I figured this made the story a bit trickier to keep up with, and y'all more likely to read something that wasn't there into it.

QuoteMatthias told them to quiet down, as he was on the phone with Rain and Galli sorting out the details of the next day's schedule.

I got a few people that questioned whether Galli being one of the people referred to had anything to do with gameplay dynamics. In fact, the only reason why she got mentioned so prominently is because I figured that she was the oldest (or anyway one of the oldest) girls in the room. This is a detail of life on a youth trip that ended up contributing to the "fog of war".

QuoteSage asked James whether he could go get some more towels from the front desk, considering that there were seven people in the room and only four sets available. James consented; Gonff also thought of a couple more things that they might need, so Sage and Gonff walked out and went down the stairs in that direction.

The reason why Sage and Gonff (and Sky, simultaneously) decided to do this is simply because I needed a way to get them out of the room!

QuoteA minute later, Galli, who had been in the bathroom, came out and asked where Sky was. After Rosie told her, Galli said, "Well, I just found out that we're going to need more soap. I'll guess I'll go down with her to make sure we get some," and headed outside.

This was meant to be a fairly overt tip that Galliver was stalking Skyblade. However, since practically everybody targeted Sky this round, it got somewhat lost in the confusion.

QuoteSky mentioned her intention of picking up some ice from the ice machine.

Another excuse to get her out of her room.

QuoteSky and Galli found out from Rain when they got there that Eul and Rosie had left the room, Eul wanting a fresh bottle of water and Rosie itching for a bag of Skittles.

Both Eul and Rosie left so that they could get in on what was happening — Rosie to make her assassination attempt, Eul to protect Sky.

QuoteArmed with this knowledge, Sky picked up the ice bucket and headed out to collect some frozen water. Along the way she crossed paths with Eul and Rosie, who were coming back, Rosie with her skittles and Eul carrying a bag full with four bottles of water.

After this encounter, Eul and Rosie part ways, keeping eyes on Sky from different places.

QuoteSky asked her why so many? Rosie said, "I know; she must be really really thirsty!". Eul shrugged and replied, "You can never be too hydrated!"

I wrote this with my experience on youth trips in mind (especially when visiting Nagodoches/Lufkin), where the water from the faucet isn't always the best quality, and visitors do well to get something they'll feel comfortable drinking. While most people saw this as a hit against Eul, for stockpiling water (which, for the record, I'd point out she could have gotten just as easily from the bathroom), I actually meant her "health tip" to be a clue to her Doctorness. ;)

Rosie's Skittles were just an excuse to get her out of the room. The idea about colouring her water with it was interesting, but didn't really square with what I (in character) said, as I indicated that we would provide the Mafia with all the food colouring they'd need.

QuoteMoving on, Sky reached the alcove where the ice machine was. She found Sage was there, with a bucket of his own, doing the same thing. He commented, "I thought getting ice was a good idea, so after I dropped into our room I told them I would do the same as you. Also, I don't think James liked the idea of you being down here by yourself."

Sky had already told Sage that she was going to be at the ice machine, so as a jailkeeper, Sage went to where he knew she'd be. Sage must have briefly dropped into the guys' room (though, as others pointed out, it's ambiguous as to whether he was telling the truth or not about talking to me), but that had nothing to do with why he came down there.

QuoteRosie answered the door when Sky knocked, and seemed somewhat taken aback by her state.

A very slight clue, meant to suggest that she felt some kind of guilt.

QuoteGalli, who was sitting in bed reading a book, looked over. "What happened to your hair? You look like you've been fighting."

Now why would she assume that Sky was fighting or in physical contact with anyone in any way, unless she had been outside and saw roughly what happened?

QuoteSecondly, Delthion was apparently shot while he slept. The color on his shirt was red. He was an ordinary Blue Mafia goon.

Not a lot to work with here. The fact that nobody noticed anything might've seemed to suggest that the killer was in the same room, but as I mentioned before (in what was otherwise a throw-away line), Matthias had opened the door to 208, and I never say anything about it being closed up again.

Day 2
1) Gonff the Mousethief - Town Citizen
2) Soren - Role Cop
3) Groddil - Goon
4) Eulaliaaa - Town Anti-Blue Doctor
5) Skyblade - Roleblocker
6) Aimless Gallivanter - Town Anti-Blue Stalker
7) Fatch of Southsward - Town 1-Shot Blue-Finding Detective
8) Lord Ashenwyte Town 1-Shot Red-Finding Detective
9) Rosie Willowwater - Goon
10) Sagetip - Town Anti-Red Jailkeeper
11) Peony - Town Citizen
12) Jet the binturong - Town Citizen
13) Chipster of Noonvale - Goon

-

Soren is voted out, revealing his identity as a Blue Mafia Role Cop

---

Night 2:

Groddil was gone during this time. Sky and Chip were still a majority, though, so with their agreement on something, his participation wasn't needed.

Red Mafia send Chipster to kill Jet
Rosie goes to kill Fatch

Skyblade blocks Peony

Sagetip jails Peony
Eulalia heals Gonff
Galliver stalks Fatch
Ashenwyte investigates Sagetip

Results:
Chipster kills Jet
Rosie kills Fatch
Ashenwyte discovers Sagetip is not Red Mafia

QuoteIt was a dark and stormy night. A very loud and dramatic thunderstorm blew in around 10 PM, and lasted all night, only receding when the sun began to come up.

Was potentially meant to be a plot point that's relevant later, but I think I might've written it in such a way that this clue didn't work out. Oh well.

QuoteSage kept up a lively conversation with Peony most of the night, drawing more than a little attention from Ashe, and several grotesquely bright grins from Delthion.

A fairly blatant clue depicting Sage's jailing of Peony, and Ashe's investigation of Sage.

QuoteFatch played a masterful diplomatic game, enthralling early eliminee Galliver, who seemed to hang on his every word.

Depicts Galli stalking Fatch.

QuoteEulaliaaa played a stout defensive game with her chosen ally, Gonff, on one occasion saving him from Matthias' invasion with a well-timed missile strike.

Eul "saves" Gonff as a good Doctor should, even though it isn't in Mafia.

QuoteRosie played with undeniable vigor, making and breaking several alliances, and taking advantage of cards and a lucky series of dice rolls to frustrate Daniel's expansion and wipe out Rain's forces in the biggest stab of the game.

A clue tipping off that Rosie is on her own now, playing a "serial killer" type role. The use of the word "stab" to describe her dealing with Rain in particular was a big wordplay clue (in flavor, SKs are known for killing with knives).

QuoteThe majority of members, having been eliminated, first began to trickle upstairs around 2 AM, finally leaving only James and the two 'alliances' to finish the game. After a dramatic showdown between the final surviving alliances of Sky, Groddil and Chipster, and Søren, Del and Daskar, the last Green army gave up the ghost in Myanmar, and the remaining exhausted players began to find their way back to their rooms an hour later.

This is probably the point where I first began to try to swing the story balance against the Red Mafia, in a rather obvious fashion. The Red team is listed in its whole here, and the other alliance consists of all dead players, who are no longer relevant to the Mafia game.

QuoteAt 5 AM, Jet woke up and decided to go to the bathroom. After flushing, he stepped back into the darkened room, squinting to try to adjust to the dramatic change from light to dark. He didn't see anything, but heard the sound of a plastic trigger depressing, and felt the stream of water as it hit his nightshirt...

Frankly, I messed up the storm clue here. Jet shouldn't have heard the squirt gun, unless it was the loudest squirt gun ever.

QuoteAfter five minutes, when the lights were turned on and everyone in 218 was up (except for Groddil, who remained in place, snoring), there was no doubt that Jet had been successfully hit by the Red Mafia. Nobody had seemed to see anything. Chipster did comment that while he had been awake, he couldn't hear anything over the sound of Groddil, who was the closest to him.

Groddil being "asleep" when everyone else managed to wake up implies that he could be faking. Chipster's statement in particular seems strange, though. If it was a "dark and stormy night" with loud thunder, it seems he would have commented on that, rather than trying to use Groddil as an alibi. But I blew it by bringing up the squirt gun noise (which, if it was loud outside, nobody should have heard) earlier.

QuoteThe sun came up to reveal that Fatch had also received attention the past night, with a blue stain on the back of his shirt. Fatch didn't seem to remember having been shot at any point; Galli surmised that the hit must have taken place while they were walking up to their rooms, when the rain was falling hard and such a shot was likely to go unnoticed.

Galli's proximity to her stalkee Fatch comes up here again. Her hypothesis was meant to be a strong clue that it didn't have to be in the guys' room. I made a bit of a mistake here, though, when I didn't take into account that Fatch would've probably changed into night clothes (unless he wore a t-shirt during the day, and simply left it on for night).

Day 3:
1) Gonff the Mousethief - Town Citizen
2) Groddil - Goon
3) Eulaliaaa Town - Anti-Blue Doctor
4) Skyblade - Roleblocker
5) Aimless Gallivanter - Town Anti-Blue Stalker
6) Lord Ashenwyte - Town 1-Shot Red-Finding Detective
7) Rosie Willowwater - Goon
8) Sagetip - Town Anti-Red Jailkeeper
9) Peony - Town Citizen
10) Chipster of Noonvale - Goon

-

Eul roleclaims Doctor.
Ashe reveals Sage is not a Red Mafia.
Ashenwyte is voted out, revealing his identity as a Town 1-Shot Red-Finding Detective.

---

Night 3:
Red Mafia send Chipster to kill Galliver
Rosie goes to kill Skyblade

Skyblade blocks Rosie

Sagetip jails Eulalia
Eulalia heals Chipster
Galliver stalks Rosie

Results:
Chipster kills Galliver

QuoteChipster brought up the idea of playing tag, suggesting that playing it would be a good way to "warm up" for the rest of the day. Eul seemed agitated, and said, "I'm not sure that's very safe, tearing around the hotel like that. You know, there was a schoolteacher that got paralyzed when a kid ran into her, while playing tag." Groddil seemed incredulous, commenting that the odds of such an injury must be one in a million. Skyblade stated that she thought it would be fine; knowing the girl's usual caution and reticence, this persuaded the vast majority to play.

Chip proposes the idea of playing tag, and his Red Mafia pals are all for it, knowing there's a good chance they can get people separated that way. Eulalia makes a comment about the health hazards of tag, in another clue meant to tip off her Doctorhood.

QuoteSage stayed close to Eul. Sky suggested to Rosie that two sets of eyes were better than one, and the two teamed up without further ado; Galli also managed to join them, apparently to Rosie's annoyance, as she pointed out that "three's a crowd".

Sage jailed Eul. Sky sticks close to her roleblocked target, as does Galli, who is stalking Rosie.

QuoteChipster and Groddil, who happened to meet near the gym, held a hurried conversation theorizing the best strategy for the game, before parting ways.

The best strategy for "the game" — not necessarily tag!

QuoteWith Groddil's knowledge of the near area and where Chipster had been, the group quickly pinned down his location and admitted Chip to their ranks.

Because Groddil and Chip are such close buddies and everything.

QuoteWith the other players having apparently spread out to more territory, the hunters began to split up into pairs, to more efficiently search the whole hotel.

"Pairs" — like the pair that held a strategy session earlier?

QuoteAfter spending close to half an hour in tense anticipation of discovery, Sky's careful watch paid off, as she heard the muffled sound of someone coming down the hallway. She called out softly to Galli, letting her know about the incoming threat. Galli hesitated; when she saw the first glimpse of someone coming in her direction, though, she turned and ran. Reaching the end of that corridor, she jumped reflexively, as she turned to see someone standing right in front of her! Before Galli could react, the person reached out to make the tag. Galli was surprised, but not half so surprised as when, having turned her back on her new teammate, she felt a stream of water hit her back...

Interesting that Skyblade gives Galli instructions that result in her running into the person that tags and shoots her. But I'm sure that's just a coincidence... ;)

Day 4:
1) Gonff the Mousethief - Town Citizen
2) Groddil - Goon
3) Eulaliaaa - Town Anti-Blue Doctor
4) Skyblade - Roleblocker
5) Rosie Willowwater - Goon
6) Sagetip - Town Anti-Red Jailkeeper
7) Peony - Town Citizen
8) Chipster of Noonvale - Goon

-

Groddil claims a partnership with a roleblocker (true) and that they agreed to block Peony (not true).
All the voters gang up on Eul. Bad timing for this kind of thing.
Eul is voted out, revealing her role as the Town Anti-Blue Doctor

---

Night 4:
Red Mafia send Chipster to kill Rosie
Rosie goes to kill Peony

Skyblade blocks Rosie

Sagetip jails Skyblade

Results:
Chipster kills Rosie
Rosie kills Peony

Game.

We won?

WOW!

It's funny how Peony's first reaction upon being killed is "NOOOO YOU RUINED MY SHIRT!"

Thanks @James Gryphon for hosting this game, it was the most exciting one I participated in so far.  And good job @Skyblade and @Groddil you two were great to work with.

James, thank you for the rundown! It's interesting. I really enjoyed this game, and I appreciate your hosting it.

@Chipster of Noonvale and @Groddil Thanks for being a great team; I had fun, and we really pulled through.

Quote from: Eulaliaaa! on October 27, 2016, 04:01:28 PM

Quote from: Skyblade on October 27, 2016, 03:00:08 PM
Why are you all so happy even though you lost? ;D ;D ;D

THIS MAKES MY DAY. IT WAS SO HARD, BUT WORTH IT.

Thank you @James Gryphon for running this game. It was interesting and enjoyable :) I'm really looking forward to the clues and night actions.

I knew it! You were the Mafia, I knew you were! ;D

@Eulaliaaa! Why did you think so?

Also, why didn't you vote for me? ;)

thanks for the rundown that was really cool!!

@Skyblade I don't know, I just knew. The chances of you having at least a role were very likely.

From an observers view I had guessed Skyblade and Chipster as red mafia, and I thought Grodds was blue mafia not red. :P

@LT Sandpaw

What made you think all three of us were Mafia?

Quote from: Skyblade on October 29, 2016, 06:44:38 AM
@LT Sandpaw

What made you think all three of us were Mafia?

There was actually a few things that gave me the suspicion, now keep in mind these were just suspicions and I didn't have concrete evidence for it. Call it a lucky guess if you will.

Mostly it had to do with how you and Chip seemed to come to the same conclusion using different threads of logic, and now looking back, so did Groddil. Ya'll managed to defend each other, while remaining unsuspicious, and ya'll had survived the whole way through without being killed, which seemed odd to me, except ya'll three were the most intuitive in the game, besides Eul, to which Groddil made that highly suspicious post about her definitely getting voted out, which made me think he was at least blue. You seemed so interested in the town's wellbeing yet every time it was you two that planted the seeds to get everyone except yourselves lynched.
Ya'll did a great job of making it look good, you three make a scary mafia team, that's for sure. Granted I had to use a lot of guesswork to find you out.


Still I was mostly right, which I'm pretty happy about. ;D

I'm surprised none of you were really attacking me during this game. Granted, I didn't post much soooooo... Yeah.

Just read through the run - down. Very interesting indeed. I'm impressed with how naturally the clues were woven into the story. I don't think town had much of a chance of winning this one, unfortunately.

Definitely a step up from the average game of mafia