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Yes, in the epilogue of mattimeo it mentions that he went to Salamandastron.
Quote from: Galedeep on July 06, 2011, 10:04:30 PM
Yes, in the epilogue of mattimeo it mentions that he went to Salamandastron.
Actually it was said he left. That doesn't mean he reached Salamandastron in itself.
In Pearls of Lutra, it mentions 'our Badger Lord,' when referring to Orlando, so, yes, I would think he counts as a Badger Lord.
I always thought he went to Salamandastron. If not, then no... gotta re-read the books. XD
Hm...I don't know. I just automatically assumed he was a Badger Lord I guess.
I thought he lived on the western plains, not salamandastron. Maybe he went there after???? ???
I've always had a special place in my heart for Orlando. He wasn't a normally aggressive guy, but woe to anybeast who hurt his daughter. Slagar sealed his own fate when he kidnapped Auma.
Yeah, he even cooked. That's pretty gentle for a berserking badger giant. And Auma said he didn't want anyone to know.
Wasn't he mentioned as lord of the western plains? That would make him a badger lord even if he didn't go to Salamandastron.
Quote from: Gerbilkit on July 08, 2011, 02:49:14 PM
Wasn't he mentioned as lord of the western plains? That would make him a badger lord even if he didn't go to Salamandastron.
Oh, that's right! Yes, yes it would. :D Mystery solved!
It does say in Pearls of Lutra that Orlando went to end his days at Salamandastron, so I presume that he went there.
The prospect of ruling the western plains is very undefined. How so, when, for, prupose, ect. We'll never know exactly how he operated in that position. But he seemed pretty free to just leave
Okay, it finally got to me. ;D I looked Orlando up on the Redwall wiki and he is mentioned both as lord of the western plains and as having gone to rule at Salamandastron. Whoosh! 8)
Yep, he definitely a badger lord.
i think so
He never ruled at Salamandastron, He was lord of the west, then Redwall's resident male badger.
But didn't it say at the end of a book that he traveled to Salamandastron?
I don't remember that.
Quote from: MatthiasMan on May 02, 2012, 01:22:26 AM
But didn't it say at the end of a book that he traveled to Salamandastron?
I belive it did say that but i'm not certain
According to Tim Churchmouse's recording at the end of Mattimeo, Orlando remained at Redwall. It says he was a firm friend of Constance and his battle axe hangs in the Abbey. He remained Lord of the Western plain and only had to look over the Abbey threshold to survey his land. I'm not sure whether anything to the contrary was said in Pearls of Lutra but as of Mattimeo those are the facts.
Quote from: Flandor on May 02, 2012, 07:53:04 AM
According to Tim Churchmouse's recording at the end of Mattimeo, Orlando remained at Redwall. It says he was a firm friend of Constance and his battle axe hangs in the Abbey. He remained Lord of the Western plain and only had to look over the Abbey threshold to survey his land. I'm not sure whether anything to the contrary was said in Pearls of Lutra but as of Mattimeo those are the facts.
Yes! That's what it was! I remember that part!
QuoteOrlando is Constance's firm friend and they are seldom apart. His axe hangs in Great Hall. As Lord of the Western Plains he only has to stand on the west battlements to survey his lands.
QuoteThey deserve a little rest and peace after bringing us up, though Matthias still joins Basil and Orlando to train the defenders.
Copy-pasted directly from the epilogue of
Mattimeo; these are the last two times Orlando is mentioned. It seems he is indeed a badger lord, but not of Salamandastron. However! The following quote is from chapter three of
Pearls of Lutra and solves our mystery once and for all:
QuoteOrlando the Axe, our great badger Lord, roamed off long ago, as male badgers will, to end his seasons at Salamandastron, mountain stronghold of great badger warriors. I do not know if he still lives. Auma, his daughter, is now the Abbey Mother; badgers are indeed noble creatures, with a lifespan which nobeast can equal.
It was just to end his years at, never to rule over.
But even if he made it, he is still a badger lord there. It doesn't matter if he was there for season. He could have been there for a week ruling. He still becomes a badger lord then. Plus, it says the recorder doesn't know if he survived, and that means he either could couldn't have made it. Mr. Jacques sure is good at giving his readers ambiguity.
That is big mistake on Slagar's part. Never take a badger lord away from his daughter..
Quote from: AbbotAlf0805 on July 04, 2012, 09:24:34 PM
That is big mistake on Slagar's part. Never take a badger lord away from his daughter..
true, very true.
When he was in the book Mattimeo he was not a badger lord but in Pearls of Lutra it said he went away to Salamandastron and became a badger lord.
Yes