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Title: Wild Ivy from the TV series
Post by: Film Reel on June 08, 2013, 03:27:25 AM
Ivy from the TV series doesn't have a tail. Or maybe she does but I haven't seen it. I don't know. What happened to it? -trails off into random mutterings of theories and confusion-
Title: Re: Wild Ivy from the TV series
Post by: Leatho Shellhound on June 08, 2013, 03:29:56 AM
Wait, who is Ivy?
Title: Re: Wild Ivy from the TV series
Post by: Film Reel on June 08, 2013, 03:31:18 AM
http://redwall.wikia.com/wiki/Wild_Ivy

Here. Watch the episode Cluny's Clowns.
Title: Re: Wild Ivy from the TV series
Post by: Leatho Shellhound on June 08, 2013, 03:43:51 AM
Oh right, I didn't know her b/c she's not in the book. Well maybe it's under her cloak. Also you don't see the tails a lot in the TV series b/c they are hard to animate.  :)
Title: Re: Wild Ivy from the TV series
Post by: Film Reel on June 08, 2013, 03:45:33 AM
Aaaww, I was hoping for a several page long discussion like you guys did with my other post.
Title: Re: Wild Ivy from the TV series
Post by: Leatho Shellhound on June 08, 2013, 03:47:47 AM
Oh, well this one seemed to have a quick answer. But maybe some one else has some more input.
Title: Re: Wild Ivy from the TV series
Post by: Film Reel on June 08, 2013, 03:52:15 AM
Exactly what I'm waiting for.
Title: Re: Wild Ivy from the TV series
Post by: Leatho Shellhound on June 08, 2013, 03:54:41 AM
Well it look like lots of the users aren't on line at the moment, but I'm sure they will be in a moment.  :)
Title: Re: Wild Ivy from the TV series
Post by: Maudie on June 08, 2013, 03:56:11 AM
Quote from: Film Reel on June 08, 2013, 03:52:15 AM
Exactly what I'm waiting for.

Oh, ok, in that case...

Well, I don't remember much about Wild Ivy, I probably wouldn't even think of her not having a tail, I'm just not the kind of person who notices that type of thing ::)
Title: Re: Wild Ivy from the TV series
Post by: Film Reel on June 08, 2013, 03:57:29 AM
Well excuuuuuuse me, Mask. -bops on head with book-
Title: Re: Wild Ivy from the TV series
Post by: Maudie on June 08, 2013, 04:01:48 AM
Ow, that hurt. :D
You seem overly anxious for replies to this topic. It seems like after I post in it you post immediately.
Title: Re: Wild Ivy from the TV series
Post by: Film Reel on June 08, 2013, 04:12:11 AM
*sigh* Yeah, I know. No discussion then.
Title: Re: Wild Ivy from the TV series
Post by: Maudie on June 08, 2013, 04:13:58 AM
So, Wild Ivy? Discussion? Fun? Yay? If you say so!
Title: Re: Wild Ivy from the TV series
Post by: Romsca on June 08, 2013, 04:26:46 PM
Ok, here goes...

I know you're probably thinking YAY! Someone's posting about her tail! Well, that's not what I was going to say. You see, she could have simply had it under her cloak or maybe she was born without it or she had it cut off in battle or amputated because of gangrene or infection. That being said, what I wanted to post about was her "psychic-ness". Was I the only one who found that weird? She seemed to palm-read, fortune-tell, and stuff like that. That was either just her showing off, in which case she should have been wrong somewhere, or she was actually telling the future. In that case, the Redwallers shouldn't have let her, since occult stuff like that wouldn't be allowed by a religious society like Redwall Abbey. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Wild Ivy from the TV series
Post by: Lutra on June 08, 2013, 06:10:51 PM
Wild Ivy is also a one-off character of the series...you see her once, and never again.  Most fans see the episode as filler for the series, and it is.  Its not one of the strongest of the first season...Nelvana was still trying to figure out how to make the transition to screen work.  You're looking too much into a character that isn't meant to have much there in the first place.  It was cool she showed Matthias about the knife throwing and tricks, but Matthias' destiny was not to be skillful with a knife. ;)  I have no clue where her tail is, and frankly I never noticed it was missing.
Title: Re: Wild Ivy from the TV series
Post by: Vilu Daskar on June 16, 2013, 08:09:26 PM
I didn't like her.
Title: Re: Wild Ivy from the TV series
Post by: Shadowed One on June 17, 2013, 01:27:16 PM
Quote from: Lutra on June 08, 2013, 06:10:51 PM
Wild Ivy is also a one-off character of the series...you see her once, and never again.  Most fans see the episode as filler for the series, and it is.  Its not one of the strongest of the first season...Nelvana was still trying to figure out how to make the transition to screen work.  You're looking too much into a character that isn't meant to have much there in the first place.  It was cool she showed Matthias about the knife throwing and tricks, but Matthias' destiny was not to be skillful with a knife. ;)  I have no clue where her tail is, and frankly I never noticed it was missing.

I never noticed, either.
Title: Re: Wild Ivy from the TV series
Post by: Rusvul on June 19, 2013, 02:20:43 AM
Quote from: Romsca on June 08, 2013, 04:26:46 PM
Ok, here goes...

I know you're probably thinking YAY! Someone's posting about her tail! Well, that's not what I was going to say. You see, she could have simply had it under her cloak or maybe she was born without it or she had it cut off in battle or amputated because of gangrene or infection. That being said, what I wanted to post about was her "psychic-ness". Was I the only one who found that weird? She seemed to palm-read, fortune-tell, and stuff like that. That was either just her showing off, in which case she should have been wrong somewhere, or she was actually telling the future. In that case, the Redwallers shouldn't have let her, since occult stuff like that wouldn't be allowed by a religious society like Redwall Abbey. Thoughts?
About the tail, agreed.
However, fortunetelling. I would guess she had a talent similar to Poleekin. That, or she was very good at analyzing current events and predicting the future. But I think it's more likely the former. Also, I would not say that Redwall shouldn't have allowed her "occult" fortunetelling. I would disagree with Redwall being a religious group. In an interview with Brian Jaques, he said something about deciding to make Redwall an abbey, rather than a castle, because an abbey has an air of peace and tranquility, and a castle does not. Redwall is all about peace, and it's not all hustle-bustle-would-you-like-to-buy-crowded-market-blah-blah-blah. I don't think it has anything to do with religion. Also, if it was religious, it would, like as not, be a non-Christian society. Having not studied very much about the religious history of non-european countries, I can't speak for them, but I have heard about, historically, a lot of Christian governments being intolerant to heretics and potential witches, anything that contradicts their religion, or might have to do with 'demons'. Anyway, I have heard less of that about other religions. Which could be just my lack of exposure to them (Where I live, nearly everyone is Christian)
Title: Re: Wild Ivy from the TV series
Post by: Kitsune on June 19, 2013, 05:17:24 PM
I think it was just an act, because she said "Someone will die soon!" And nobody did. To which she said, "Oh, well....... we can all change our fates!" And what else did she foretell? Him missing the target? If any of you have tried to hit a target with a knife, it's extremely hard.
As for the tail, it could have been under her dress.
Title: Re: Wild Ivy from the TV series
Post by: Rusvul on June 20, 2013, 02:30:54 AM
Ummm... I throw knives. A big, foot-long, heavy one I made myself. I can nail a pizza box one in five tries at fifteen feet. Well, sometimes the pommel is actually what goes into the box. But, that still counts, because it makes a giant hole through it...
Title: Re: Wild Ivy from the TV series
Post by: rachel25 on June 21, 2013, 01:50:15 PM
Wow where do you live  :o
Btw I never watched the Redwall tv series it wasn't on and I've never heard of Wild Ivy  8)
Title: Re: Wild Ivy from the TV series
Post by: Romsca on June 21, 2013, 09:00:50 PM
You can watch them on YouTube or Netflix
Title: Re: Wild Ivy from the TV series
Post by: Kitsune on June 21, 2013, 09:14:36 PM
Quote from: rusvulthesaber on June 20, 2013, 02:30:54 AM
Ummm... I throw knives. A big, foot-long, heavy one I made myself. I can nail a pizza box one in five tries at fifteen feet. Well, sometimes the pommel is actually what goes into the box. But, that still counts, because it makes a giant hole through it...
Have you tried to hit a solid target? I had five tries at a fair and I hit the target all of the times, but with the pommel or it didn't stick. If it was a pizza box, I would have probably put a hole in it all five times, but it was only at like five feet. ;) My point is, they weren't pizza boxes in Redwall and it seemed farther than fifteen feet. And the knives were about the size of the ones in the TV show, closer to six inches.
Title: Re: Wild Ivy from the TV series
Post by: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on June 21, 2013, 11:16:06 PM
'ov did ve get tae talkin' aboot pizza boxez anyvay?
Title: Re: Wild Ivy from the TV series
Post by: Rusvul on June 22, 2013, 05:09:35 AM
In the tv show, it looked like they were throwing at bricks. Which is very unlikely. And had hey been throwing at hay or dried grass targets, (the most likely scenario) then they would only have had to get it point first. Which, with proper instruction from a professional, and all day to practice, would not be too hard. I, and I presume you, are just throwing in a way that feels right. With the right technique, you can control your knife precisely.
Title: Re: Wild Ivy from the TV series
Post by: Mariel on June 23, 2013, 04:13:24 AM
Are you sure she didn't have a tail I thought I remembered seeing the end of her tail one time. ???
Title: Re: Wild Ivy from the TV series
Post by: Romsca on June 23, 2013, 07:56:06 PM
I should watch it again
Title: Re: Wild Ivy from the TV series
Post by: Kitsune on June 24, 2013, 02:22:54 AM
Quote from: Romsca on June 23, 2013, 07:56:06 PM
I should watch it again
Ditto.