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Forum News, Feedback, and Information => Suggestions and Concerns => Topic started by: Jukka the Sling on March 24, 2014, 10:42:24 PM

Poll
Question: Do you think this is a good idea?
Option 1: Yep! votes: 35
Option 2: Nope. votes: 6
Title: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: Jukka the Sling on March 24, 2014, 10:42:24 PM
Could the staff make another rank higher up than hero member, like, when we hit 1,000 posts? There are quite a few members who have over 1,000 posts, and several others who have nearly that many. Just a suggestion. I saw an old topic like this, but nothing ever came of it.
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: Gonff the Mousethief on March 25, 2014, 01:02:03 AM
ya, that would be cool. it could be called Ultra Member or something
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: The Skarzs on March 25, 2014, 03:33:00 AM
Something above hero. Hmm. . . Legend?
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: Leatho Shellhound on March 25, 2014, 12:38:17 PM
Legendary Member?
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: Cornflower MM on March 25, 2014, 04:39:37 PM
Yeah, that's a good idea! How about......Constant Member? Legengary Member is good, too. If you've noticed, a lot of people don't come and stay long enough to get very far with post counts. Why, some of us get bored with the site, or don't have time, and a lot of the Newbie's just.....Disappear.
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: Rainshadow on March 25, 2014, 05:27:27 PM
  An interesting idea.  Legendary Member sounds kinda cool.  ;D
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: The Skarzs on March 25, 2014, 05:46:59 PM
My post on 'Legend' member has sparked something.
Quote from: The Skarzs on March 25, 2014, 03:33:00 AM
Something above hero. Hmm. . . Legend?
^
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: Dannflower Reguba on March 25, 2014, 05:54:52 PM
Not meaning to be a wet blanket here, but don't get your hopes up. This subject has been brought up numerous times but the mods have been very resistant on this topic so far.
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: The Skarzs on March 25, 2014, 05:56:42 PM
I know, but if they were to ask for a name for a new rank, 'Legend' or Legendary' is what I would say.
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: W0NWILL on March 25, 2014, 08:08:29 PM
There is a very good reason the mods haven't added a new rank; it just isn't needed. We didn't need ranks in the first place. They're just a fun little thing. If more are added, it will make it seem like a bigger deal, which might cause some of the 'newbies' to be put out, and we can't have that.
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: DanielofRedwall on March 26, 2014, 08:40:41 AM
Honestly, I don't see a point to it. Ranks aren't really meant to mean anything much, and it might lead to people just posting spam to bump up their post count, which is really not ideal or encouraged.
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: Faiyloe on March 26, 2014, 03:15:18 PM
Quote from: Cornflower MM on March 25, 2014, 04:39:37 PM
and a lot of the Newbie's just.....Disappear.

OMG! The gests are getting them!  :o
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: Matthias720 on March 26, 2014, 05:04:19 PM
As Daniel said, we want to encourage post quality over quantity. However, if we ever change the rankings, we will take these suggestions into consideration.
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: rachel25 on March 27, 2014, 08:31:29 PM
If a new rank ever is made, I think Legendary is cool.  8)
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on March 28, 2014, 06:44:50 PM
Agreed viz boz pointz. Tvid be major tae 'ave juzt vone more rank after 'ero Member, but ah alzae underztand an' zink zat ve zhould encourage quality over quantity vhenever pozzible. May'apz, (If tiz ever conzidered) ze Legendary Member or votever it vid end up bein' could be for an 'oigher pozt count zan 2000, zay may'apz- 5000?
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: Cornflower MM on May 20, 2014, 09:16:46 PM
Quote from: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on March 28, 2014, 06:44:50 PM
Agreed viz boz pointz. Tvid be major tae 'ave juzt vone more rank after 'ero Member, but ah alzae underztand an' zink zat ve zhould encourage quality over quantity vhenever pozzible. May'apz, (If tiz ever conzidered) ze Legendary Member or votever it vid end up bein' could be for an 'oigher pozt count zan 2000, zay may'apz- 5000?

I agree with Head...I mean, I realize that it's just a fun little thing. And I also realize that Daniel, W0N and Matthias have good points...But if a member does something extraordinary, like getting 5000 posts, wouldn't that be something to reward? To show that he/she loves this site so much, and posts so much, that they're extremely deicated? And, if they haven't been gagged by then, very well behaving?

I'm sorry; Thas just a thought that I thought should be said.
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: Shadowed One on June 03, 2014, 07:22:32 PM
Legendary Member or VIM (Very Important Member)
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: Rusvul on June 04, 2014, 12:15:32 AM
Quote from: Cornflower MM on May 20, 2014, 09:16:46 PM
Quote from: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on March 28, 2014, 06:44:50 PM
Agreed viz boz pointz. Tvid be major tae 'ave juzt vone more rank after 'ero Member, but ah alzae underztand an' zink zat ve zhould encourage quality over quantity vhenever pozzible. May'apz, (If tiz ever conzidered) ze Legendary Member or votever it vid end up bein' could be for an 'oigher pozt count zan 2000, zay may'apz- 5000?

I agree with Head...I mean, I realize that it's just a fun little thing. And I also realize that Daniel, W0N and Matthias have good points...But if a member does something extraordinary, like getting 5000 posts, wouldn't that be something to reward? To show that he/she loves this site so much, and posts so much, that they're extremely deicated? And, if they haven't been gagged by then, very well behaving?

I'm sorry; Thas just a thought that I thought should be said.

I disagree with you, really. In essence, rank is just a shiny little sticker. Like, 'Oh, you're dedicated, here, have a star.' Up to a certain point, I mean, sure, why not? Most of the active members are Heroes, so it doesn't mean much any more, but it was fun while it did. But here's the thing. You have two thousand something posts. If I'm not mistaken, I have roughly a thousand less than you. I'm no less a valid part of the forum than you are, and vice versa. If there was another rank around 5000, that could cause problems with very little benefit. The benefit being another little fun thing. But another rank is an incentive to reach it. Which could have the effect of decreasing post quality and increasing post quantity. Which is a bad thing. Considering that a new rank has very, very little benefit, even a fairly small downside outweighs it.
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: Blazemane on June 04, 2014, 12:37:24 AM
I remember a site I've been a part of where there were tons of different ranks, and I can say that the atmosphere there was just... terrible. Admittedly, part of the problem was that rank was actually achieved by members voting for each other; and once you had a certain rank, you could actually take points away from other users.

Having a new rank at 1,000 posts is obviously a long way away from anything like that. But I'm leery of moving in any direction which creates arbitrary tiers between members.
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: Captain Tammo on June 09, 2014, 04:40:59 AM
I think members of the forum are just looking for something a little spicy that they can work towards! Something that proves that they're still dedicated to Brian's books, you know? Though I can see where Blazemane is coming from with creating tiers of membership being a potential problem, maybe we could give it a shot? Rather than 1,000 though, how about a little more than that (say, 1,500? So a greater majority of members can work towards something)? If the members are mature enough to handle the current tiers of membership, what difference will one more make?
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: The Skarzs on June 09, 2014, 04:49:18 AM
I'm sure the mods are getting their dose of deep thoughts with this one. ;)
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: Cornflower MM on June 09, 2014, 10:46:05 PM
Quote from: Captain Tammo on June 09, 2014, 04:40:59 AM
I think members of the forum are just looking for something a little spicy that they can work towards! Something that proves that they're still dedicated to Brian's books, you know? Though I can see where Blazemane is coming from with creating tiers of membership being a potential problem, maybe we could give it a shot? Rather than 1,000 though, how about a little more than that (say, 1,500? So a greater majority of members can work towards something)? If the members are mature enough to handle the current tiers of membership, what difference will one more make?

*Raises hand* Um, 1,500 is really common. You yourself have almost that many posts!  I'd say something less common. like, 5,000 posts...Just a thought. :-\
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: Faiyloe on June 09, 2014, 11:09:18 PM
Here is an idea why not allow members to rep other peoples post (Specially in the RPing board) This would enforce quality over quantity. I know that is might hurt peoples feelings like Why didn't you rep me or whatever but if people are mature about it and they only rep when they think the other person deserves it then I don't think that it would be to much of a problem... I don't know just a thought.
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: Cornflower MM on June 21, 2014, 02:45:27 AM
Rep? ???
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: Osu on June 21, 2014, 08:30:00 PM
Cornflower, a reputation system puts a small number (or something) under each user's profile to which other members can add or take away numbers.

Personally, I've never seen a rep system work out. Too many people trolling each other, getting their feelings hurt (like you mentioned, Fai), and generally being mercenary to each other. It's a nice thought, but too easily exploited from what I can tell.
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: Dannflower Reguba on June 22, 2014, 07:06:05 PM
       It would also attract a crowd of people that we don't exactly want on our forum: The spammer/troller. If someone can be easily messed with by someone else, there'll be people around to do the messing... That's the first rule of the internet  ::). It stinks, but it's true... I feel like I worded that all wrong, but hopefully it makes enough sense to be understood.
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: Faiyloe on June 23, 2014, 08:07:18 PM
No I understand.  that makes sense. I don't think that it really matters though. We all have fun and all. That is all that matters right.  :D I think that Zombie pinatas and teddy bears are way more fun that Rank anyway.
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: Dannflor on June 25, 2014, 10:41:07 PM
Quote from: rachel25 on March 27, 2014, 08:31:29 PM
If a new rank ever is made, I think Legendary is cool.  8)
That would be cool
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: James Gryphon on June 26, 2014, 12:20:19 AM
I understand this might be a controversial point of view, and that most of you (particularly in the staff) who've known me might be surprised to see me say it, but I think it might be a good idea to add a rank or two.

I never paid much attention to it myself, after I got to the "Full Member" level, but I think that any incentive users have to post more is beneficial, at this point in time. It's true that members could, hypothetically, spam the forum for a higher post count, but spamming is already against the rules, and the user can be punished as the staff sees fit. Back when nobody was a hero member, I don't think we saw too much in the way of spamming to get to that rank, so I'm not sure that it would become an issue now.

I'd also like to point out that any members who would be inclined to spam are very unlikely to generate quality posts regardless of how the rank system works, so I'm not sure how well that the quality vs. quantity argument works here. I don't think that I've ever even briefly considered, "Maybe I should make this post short so I'll have more time to make another post and get a higher post count". (And I have 289 long, long posts to show that I'm telling the truth about that. ;))

Now, granted, that's just me. Maybe there are some members out there who do contribute quality posts to the forum, yet have had that thought cross their minds. The only thing I can say to that is that your reputation is one of your most valuable assets, much more so than a little number next to your screen name. One high-quality post will do far more for you than a hundred one-line replies. The goal here should always be to seek quality with quantity, and if you can't have both, to go after the former.

Finally, this is a very old suggestion that I made three years ago, but I still think it's valid:

Quote from: MeIf I had to make custom member ranks, I suppose I'd make them based on food-related titles.

The top ranks with the most posts being like "Champion Scoffer" or "Glutton" and the lowest ones, the opposite of that, with the comparison being making posts to eating food.

That way the focus is on quantity, not quality.  ;)
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: HeadInAnotherGalaxy on June 26, 2014, 04:43:05 PM
Ach, ve've mizzed yer lon', vell vritten poztz, James. Velcome back mate! An' viz regardz tae a nev rank or tva, vot if ve try oot a nev rank an' zen zee vot 'appenz? If it doeznae vork oot, it could alvayz be removed. Zat moight be an intereztin' zin', it vid!
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: Cornflower MM on June 26, 2014, 11:02:19 PM
Do I need to translate?
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: The Skarzs on July 03, 2014, 10:22:24 PM
As to post count, spams and stuff, I feel like that there is a limit to how much one can spam: you would get bored, you will be discouraged from doing it, and if you really do reach that high threshold, it should show some amount of maturity in that person. If that is so, then they would have the decency of mind to realize that the better way of getting more posts to your count than spamming.

Also, the mods will have a raised fish above their head ready to strike them down should they cause problems. (Scary mods. . . nice mods, niiiice mods. . . RUN!)
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: Cornflower MM on July 05, 2014, 06:41:17 PM
Interesting way to put the mods, Skarzsy...
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: AbbotAlf0809 on September 04, 2014, 03:45:20 PM
Can we make special ranks for my old account and Dan? Lol we have the most posts.
Title: Re: New rank at 1,000 posts?
Post by: Tam and Martin on September 04, 2014, 07:48:22 PM
Actually, Dan, Rain and Corny have the most. Then you.