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Jarky Thistlebrush

August 25, 2019, 12:25:01 AM
I'm pretty sure the only sentient fish in Redwall was the Snakefish. Why? Any ideas?
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42 ~ Seb's Humility ~ Seb's toothbrush ~ Seb's soul ~ Half a Plane ~ Your Toothbrush ~ A creeping anxiety every time you look at your toothbrush ~ Pure Terror every time you look at your toothbrush ~ Death every time you look at your toothbrush

I had to move everything off the list but the bare essentials to make way for this:

LordTBT

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August 25, 2019, 03:51:39 PM
Mossflower was book 2, and character traits were still being sorted out.

Verdauga

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August 25, 2019, 09:49:07 PM
@Jarky Thistlebrush  I think it's because some of the animals are carnivorous. That, and Jacques never needed to delve into an aquatic storyline.
I've been looking back over these past few months, and I've felt off. Felt different. At the time, I wanted nothing more than to go back to the good old days.
But now? Could I just ignore all the ways I've suffered and grown? Caught hold and let go? Could I return from life, having now lived?

One-Eye the wildcat

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August 25, 2019, 09:50:09 PM
*nods*
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"Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos. I'm an agent of chaos."
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Jarky Thistlebrush

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August 25, 2019, 10:10:45 PM
Quote from: Verdauga on August 25, 2019, 09:49:07 PM
@Jarky Thistlebrush  I think it's because some of the animals are carnivorous. That, and Jacques never needed to delve into an aquatic storyline.

??? Explain further, ole' chap.
The following is a list of things to bring on holiday:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
42 ~ Seb's Humility ~ Seb's toothbrush ~ Seb's soul ~ Half a Plane ~ Your Toothbrush ~ A creeping anxiety every time you look at your toothbrush ~ Pure Terror every time you look at your toothbrush ~ Death every time you look at your toothbrush

I had to move everything off the list but the bare essentials to make way for this:

Verdauga

#5
August 26, 2019, 06:38:25 PM
@Jarky Thistlebrush I haven't checked, but I think badgers are carnivorous, at least. They might not eat fish, but foxes do, as do felines (like wildcats). But on the tack of the storyline, the only fish that could help out the Redwallers' cause was the snakefish. If most of the other fish could not do anything to help, there would be little reason to add characters and dialogue. That's at least my point of view.
I've been looking back over these past few months, and I've felt off. Felt different. At the time, I wanted nothing more than to go back to the good old days.
But now? Could I just ignore all the ways I've suffered and grown? Caught hold and let go? Could I return from life, having now lived?

Jarky Thistlebrush

#6
August 26, 2019, 11:30:24 PM
Hmm...
The following is a list of things to bring on holiday:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
42 ~ Seb's Humility ~ Seb's toothbrush ~ Seb's soul ~ Half a Plane ~ Your Toothbrush ~ A creeping anxiety every time you look at your toothbrush ~ Pure Terror every time you look at your toothbrush ~ Death every time you look at your toothbrush

I had to move everything off the list but the bare essentials to make way for this:

The Skarzs

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September 01, 2019, 07:19:53 PM
It may have just been a plot device for that book. And, frankly, I'm glad he was the only sentient fish. That would add some interesting layers of moral problems, since woodlanders eat fish.
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Kade Rivok

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October 21, 2019, 09:56:59 PM
Quote from: The Skarzs on September 01, 2019, 07:19:53 PM
It may have just been a plot device for that book. And, frankly, I'm glad he was the only sentient fish. That would add some interesting layers of moral problems, since woodlanders eat fish.
Yeah, I agree.  That's why vermin were the only ones that really ate eggs and birds as well (except in the beginning of course, the first few books were the wild west of Redwall).  Since it was a known fact that birds were sapient, of course woodlanders wouldn't eat them or their eggs, even if there seemed to be a distinction between sapient and non-sapient birds.  Mr. Jacques knew that it wasn't really appropriate in the context.
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October 22, 2019, 08:42:19 PM
Quote from: Kade Rivok on October 21, 2019, 09:56:59 PM
except in the beginning of course, the first few books were the wild west of Redwall
This is one of the best ways that I've ever heard to describe this.  :P
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