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Are wolves, wolverines, turtles, hamsters, and beavers in England?

Started by Redwallfan7, July 15, 2012, 05:17:35 PM

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Are they, because a few of the books mention them or talk about them

yes
2 (18.2%)
No. Of course not
4 (36.4%)
not sure
5 (45.5%)

Total Members Voted: 11

Redwallfan7

"There's some good in this world, Mr.Frodo, and it's worth fighting for."-Samwise Gamgee from The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers

W0NWILL

I'm pretty sure wolves aren't, I know that beavers and wolverines aren't, beavers became extinct in England and wolverines are an American species. Turtles and hamsters might of not originated in England, but they are there now.
Brian used beavers because he was figuring out the Redwall universe.

Maybe you could change you poll so that it says, check off the species that are in England or something to that affect.

Redwallfan7

if they aren't, how could the Redwallers sometimes use the expression "like a wolf in a famine", surely they would have had to hear of wolves some where?
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W0NWILL

It mentions that the wolf came from another continent or island, maybe representing America.

Redwallfan7

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Flandor

Wolves were once very common in England but were hunted to extinction in the late sixteenth century when Henry VII was in power.  There were mandates that wolves should be hunted as they supposedly posed a danger to people and livestock.  But as they were once quite common there, I'd say they are native to England.

Eurasian beavers actually exist in England.  They were hunted to near extinction but projects to reintroduce them are in the works.  Since Redwall is more or less timeless, I consider the Beaver native to Britain, regardless of whether humans killed them off.

Wolverines do not come from England however they are found in Russia, Sweden, Norway etc. Which would make more sense than saying Gulo came from an area similar to North America.

Tortoises are not native in any way to Britain; the climate there is unsuitable for them.
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Redwallfan7

Quote from: Flandor on July 15, 2012, 07:03:50 PM
Wolves were once very common in England but were hunted to extinction in the late sixteenth century when Henry VII was in power.  There were mandates that wolves should be hunted as they supposedly posed a danger to people and livestock.  But as they were once quite common there, I'd say they are native to England.

Eurasian beavers actually exist in England.  They were hunted to near extinction but were reintroduced and the population is doing alright there.  The beaver is not that out of place.

Wolverines do not come from England however they are found in Russia, Sweden, Norway etc. Which would make more sense than saying Gulo came from an area similar to North America.

Tortoises are not native in any way to Britain; the climate there is unsuitable for them.
thanks for explaining
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White One6193

Wolves ARE native to England, however, they're passing rare nowadays. Wolverines are not native, nor are beavers, as they are North American mammals.
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Flandor

Quote from: White One6193 on July 17, 2012, 01:09:21 AM
Wolves ARE native to England, however, they're passing rare nowadays. Wolverines are not native, nor are beavers, as they are North American mammals.

North American beavers aren't from Britain, however Castor fiber, the Eurasian beaver, is.

Also, Wolverines are native to Northern Russia, Sweden, and Norway as well as North America.
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WildDoogyPlumm

Wolves do live in England, though humans have almost killed them off.
Wolverine's aren't, but Gulo isn't from England anyway.
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MatthiasMan

Psst. . .I think we said that already. . .
Quote from: Flandor on July 15, 2012, 07:03:50 PM
Wolves were once very common in England but were hunted to extinction in the late sixteenth century when Henry VII was in power.  There were mandates that wolves should be hunted as they supposedly posed a danger to people and livestock.  But as they were once quite common there, I'd say they are native to England.