Irony in the Redwall series?

[Skyblade]

I like irony. It's interesting and unexpected. Hence why I hope there are ironic moments in the Redwall series. I'm not sure how many occurrences there are though, so I'll see how this goes.

Anyway, one ironic moment I thought of is in Mossflower. In the beginning of the novel, the evil wildcat Tsarmina laughs and says that Martin the Warrior could never kill her. Guess what happens at the end of the book. Another ironic aspect of this is that a mouse ended up killing a cat.

Can you all think of any other moments of irony and/or ironic things you noticed in the series?

[Jetthebinturong]

Technically Martin doesn't kill her, she drowns herself rather than face him. Even if he did kill her, it wouldn't be ironic, ironic means "contrary to what you'd expect" because Martin is the hero in this book, we expect him to kill Tsarmina, therefore it's not irony because it's only ironic to the character and not the audience. If anything it's ironic that he doesn't kill her

[Skyblade]

I think it was ironic because she said she would never be killed by him but it ends up happening And yes, you have a point that she technically wasn't killed by Martin. But it was because she was fighting and trying to escape him that she ended up drowning at all. He didn't directly cause her death, but he did provoke it to happen.

It's really a matter of perspective, and I don't want to go too into debate. Very good observations, anyway.

[Wot, wot!]

I thought of Martin the Warrior on the wall top of Marshank shouting to Badrang that he will live to slay him and get his father's sword back... And he did

[Lady Ashenwyte]

I don't think that's ironic, that's just a promise he fulfilled.

[Captain Tammo]

I think it's ironic how the Urgan Nagru is killed in The Bellmaker (don't want to give any spoilers). I certainly didn't see that one coming.

The same goes for the identity of Slagar and his death in Mattimeo