The British Are Coming!

[HeadInAnotherGalaxy]

Ah vonce found an auld grey toad,
Vho found 'imzelf vonce on ze road
Ze car came alon',
Ze toad found it vron'
An' cauzed ze blazphemouz machine tae explode.

Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk!!!

[The Skarzs]

Mary had a little lamb, little lamb, little lamb.
Mary had a little lamb: her father killed it dead.
Now Mary brings her lamb to school, lamb to school, lamb to school,
Now Mary brings her lamb to school between two hunks of bread.

[Russa Nodrey]

*Claps*

[Wylder Treejumper]

*Ignores inaccuracies of song and hums Rule Britannia*

I know what you are referring to. If you insist:

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

If you wish to have a discussion on the morality of the Founding Fathers of America, publicly or over PM, I'd oblige you...

[Lady Ashenwyte]

Mary had a little lamb, little lamb, little lamb.
Mary had a little lamb: her father killed it dead.
Now Mary brings her lamb to school, lamb to school, lamb to school,
Now Mary brings her lamb to school between two hunks of bread.

This is why I became vegetarian.

[Jetthebinturong]

*Ignores inaccuracies of song and hums Rule Britannia*

I know what you are referring to. If you insist:

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

If you wish to have a discussion on the morality of the Founding Fathers of America, publicly or over PM, I'd oblige you...

I have no doubt the founding fathers of America had freedom for everyone in mind (you know, except black people, the native Americans, women and basically anyone they didn't like/thought of as inferior) but if you think any country is truly free... well they're not. That is all I have to say on the matter

[LT Sandpaw]

Lets not get into this argument okay,

I highly doubt the moderators will appreciate us insulting Brits along with arguing about deities. Lets just go back to making fun of our good allies across the sea


Come join band in hand, brave Americans all,
And rouse your bold hearts at fair Liberty's call;
No tyrannous acts, shall suppress your just claim,
Or stain with dishonor America's name.

In freedom we're born, and in freedom we'll live;
Our purses are ready,
Steady, Friends, steady,

Not as slaves, but as freemen our money we'll give.
Our worthy forefathers - let's give them a cheer -
To climates unknown did courageously steer;
Thro' oceans to deserts, for freedom they came,
And, dying, bequeath'd us their freedom and fame.

Their generous bosoms all dangers despis'd,
So highly, so wisely, their birthrights they priz'd;
We'll keep what they gave, we will piously keep,
Nor frustrate their toils on the land or the deep.

The Tree, their own hands had to Liberty rear'd,
They lived to behold growing strong and rever'd;
With transport then cried, - " Now our wishes we gain,
For our children shall gather the fruits of our pain."



How sweet are the labors that freemen endure,
That they shall enjoy all the profit, secure, -
No more such sweet labors Americans know,
If Britons shall reap what Americans sow,

Swarms of placemen and pensioners' soon will appear, Like locusts deforming the charms of the year:
Suns vainly will rise, showers vainly descend,
If we are to drudge for what others shall spend.

Then join hand in hand brave Americans all,
By uniting we stand, by dividing we fall;
In so righteous a cause let us hope to succeed,
For Heaven approves of each generous deed.

All ages shall speak with amaze and applause,
Of the courage we'll show in support of our laws;
To die we can bear, - but to serve we disdain,
For shame is to freemen more dreadful than pain.

This bumper I crown for our sovereign's health,
And this for Britannia's glory and wealth;
That wealth, and that glory immortal may be,
If she is but just, and we are but free.
In freedom we're born

[Cornflower MM]

Mary had a little lamb, little lamb, little lamb.
Mary had a little lamb: her father killed it dead.
Now Mary brings her lamb to school, lamb to school, lamb to school,
Now Mary brings her lamb to school between two hunks of bread.

No. That's just wrong.

[The Skarzs]

I blame my grandma.

[HeadInAnotherGalaxy]

Ach, ah ztarted ze quick poemz. Poor vee lamb. Ach...

*Gaez tae 'ave lunch*

[Lady Amber]

Mary had a little lamb, little lamb, little lamb.
Mary had a little lamb: her father killed it dead.
Now Mary brings her lamb to school, lamb to school, lamb to school,
Now Mary brings her lamb to school between two hunks of bread.

Lovely poem, Skarzs! *Hands out lamb sandwiches to everyone, except the vegetarians*

[The Skarzs]

I have no doubt the founding fathers of America had freedom for everyone in mind (you know, except black people, the native Americans, women and basically anyone they didn't like/thought of as inferior) but if you think any country is truly free... well they're not. That is all I have to say on the matter

I would like to note that it was not as if centuries of people before them shared a similar mind on the standing of slaves and women, and it was not considered "wrong" at the time, so it would not be just to blame them for something they firmly believed was alright.


In any case. . . I kind of feel like the "British Empire" was more of a trading route rather than a hold of power.

[Wylder Treejumper]

I have no doubt the founding fathers of America had freedom for everyone in mind (you know, except black people, the native Americans, women and basically anyone they didn't like/thought of as inferior) but if you think any country is truly free... well they're not. That is all I have to say on the matter

Actually, the Abigail Adams had input on writing the Constitution, and when James Madison and Thomas Jefferson wrote the original draft of the constitution, it had an article which freed the slaves. However, the Founding Fathers scrapped parts of the original Constitution because the States needed to ratify it. If the Constitution was not adopted, the United States would fall apart under the Articles of Confederacy, and any gains on freedom these men had dearly bought would be lost. They decided that it would be up to some future generation to bring about these additional changes.

[The Skarzs]

(Please don't get carried away with this, you guys.)

[Wylder Treejumper]

(I'll try. I just happen to be super-patriotic and also a history buff. That's all.)

O beautiful for spacious skies,
For amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties
Above the fruited plain!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea!

O beautiful for pilgrim feet
Whose stern impassioned stress
A thoroughfare of freedom beat
Across the wilderness!
America! America!
God mend thine every flaw,
Confirm thy soul in self-control,
Thy liberty in law!

O beautiful for heroes proved
In liberating strife.
Who more than self their country loved
And mercy more than life!
America! America!
May God thy gold refine
Till all success be nobleness
And every gain divine!

O beautiful for patriot dream
That sees beyond the years
Thine alabaster cities gleam
Undimmed by human tears!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea!