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Less family-friendly parts of Redwall.

Started by WorshipTiria, October 31, 2021, 04:18:18 PM

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WorshipTiria

So, there have been numerous questionable moments in Redwall. I'm only going to list off a bunch from the original book because I don't have the rest.


  • Matthais' treatment of Warbeak involved strangulation, active threats and basically training a fully sentient creature like a dog.
  • Cheesethief's rise to power involved strangling Scragg, in detail.
  • Chickenhound's utter lack of conscience. He sees the death of his mother as an opportunity and gloats to himself about killing Methuselah.
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clunylooney

In general I think Redwall is a mix of magical and mysterious elements that kids enjoy and blood and gore that older people tend to like. That's why Redwall's age range is so confusing.
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WorshipTiria

That would explain why I've never seen a definite age range for Redwall.
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Tungro

#3
I'd imagine something like 6-14

WorshipTiria

That's one of the largest age ranges I've seen.
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Tungro


WorshipTiria

Eh, I don't typically look at age-ranges.
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LordTBT

"Redwall" was originally written for children. I think the book is just fine for that demographic. You can find all these same "questionable moments" in Looney Tunes.

WorshipTiria

There is a bit of a difference.
In cartoons like Tom and Jerry, Looney Toons ETC when a character gets gets hit, shot or stabbed, they pop right back up. However in Redwall, many creatures actually die.
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Sebias of Redwall

Redwall was definitely a bit violent, but I appreciated that, honestly.
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Captain Wortshire

I always think back to the time when Boar the Fighter sliced a rat into two half rats...

I was wondering...

Did he slice horizontally, or vertically?
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LordTBT

Quote from: WorshipTiria on January 20, 2022, 02:51:49 AM
There is a bit of a difference.
In cartoons like Tom and Jerry, Looney Toons ETC when a character gets gets hit, shot or stabbed, they pop right back up. However in Redwall, many creatures actually die.

So your argument is "death" means "not-family friendly"? Disney might disagree.
https://matpat.fandom.com/wiki/Disney_Death_Count

Tungro

Quote from: LordTBT on January 21, 2022, 06:08:34 PM
Disney might disagree.
He specifically referred to Loony Toons as that's the original example you used...

clunylooney

Quote from: Captain Wortshire on January 21, 2022, 03:24:00 AM
I always think back to the time when Boar the Fighter sliced a rat into two half rats...

I was wondering...

Did he slice horizontally, or vertically?
I tend to think horizontally
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Captain Wortshire

Quote from: clunylooney on January 24, 2022, 07:11:18 PM
Quote from: Captain Wortshire on January 21, 2022, 03:24:00 AM
I always think back to the time when Boar the Fighter sliced a rat into two half rats...

I was wondering...

Did he slice horizontally, or vertically?
I tend to think horizontally
Me and my weirdly cartoony mind wants to think that he sliced vertically...

But yeah, it was probably horizontal...

(Imagine the guts falling out...)
[move][/move]
"It's so sad. Nobody understands you. But the truth is you're the one who finds everyone & everything to be a pain in the butt."
"The moon tide is tugging on our hearts right now."
"Ishkhaqwi ai durugnul"
"We're making the mother of all omelettes here. Can't fret over every egg"
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