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Do you think BJ should have put humans in Redwall?

Started by Tiria Wildlough, July 01, 2011, 06:39:27 AM

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Tiria Wildlough

July 01, 2011, 06:39:27 AM
I don't think so! They would ruin everything! Probably set traps and shoot birds, and cruel stuff like that.
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DanielofRedwall

#1
July 01, 2011, 09:33:54 AM
Humans just aren't Redwall!
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Lord Brocktree

#2
July 01, 2011, 01:38:27 PM
I don't think it should even be a question. Humans are just not meant for Redwall, they have no place in the series.
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Matthias720

#3
July 01, 2011, 01:47:46 PM
BJ was once asked if he would ever put humans in Redwall. His response was "Do you want humans in Redwall?" Good answer. :)

martins#1fan

#4
July 01, 2011, 05:09:51 PM
It would be odd bu,t interesting. ::)
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daskar666

#5
July 01, 2011, 05:37:19 PM
Only if ALL the characters were humans (except the birds and snakes of course).

Galedeep

#6
July 01, 2011, 06:11:54 PM
Um, no that just wouldn't work.

HeadInAnotherGalaxy

#7
July 01, 2011, 06:22:36 PM
Definitely not! *is glad that he's not human*
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July 01, 2011, 07:01:42 PM
Quote from: Tiria Wildlough on July 01, 2011, 06:39:27 AM
I don't think so! They would ruin everything! Probably set traps and shoot birds, and cruel stuff like that.
If you have an opinion please post it.


I think I quoted BJ on this before, but it's such a good quote I'll use it again: "Animals make better people than people."

Redwall would not be Redwall if he incorporated humans.  In fact, if you look at the original Redwall book, you can see some human elements that he decided to do away with (I'm thinking, just off the top of my head, of the big wagon Cluny and his gang found themselves in in the beginning...

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Osu

#9
July 01, 2011, 08:10:45 PM
Quote from: Wot Wot! on July 01, 2011, 07:01:42 PM
I think I quoted BJ on this before, but it's such a good quote I'll use it again: "Animals make better people than people."
Late to the party, but this pretty much sums it up for me.
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martins#1fan

#10
July 02, 2011, 07:30:50 PM
I think it would work.
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Captain Tammo

#12
July 02, 2011, 09:32:44 PM
Hhhmmmmmm.... That's tough. Im not sure I would mind it as long as they didn't have significant roles. Like maybe being mentioned. Like in the beginning of redwall it sounds like there are humans but they don't have major roles in the plot or story. They could gradually grow into the story and eventually get a role. But It would deffinately take some getting used to. Especially animal--->human communication. I have a feeling if he was still alive today, then he would just leave the "animals and humans in the same story" to the "Castaways of the Flying Dutchman" series (I wish he wrote more of those  :'( )that is, unless the fans wanted different
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sabretache5611

#13
July 05, 2011, 01:37:19 AM
I don't think it would work and i wouldn't want it.  i don't know how it wouldn't work, but i think it doesn't and i simply can't imagine redwall with humans in it.  Maybe it can be like Guardians of Ga'Hoole where humans have left remnants and have died out or moved somewhere else, but for there to be any direct interaction between human and creature...would be...well i wouldn't like it.
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AakashB

#14
July 05, 2011, 02:52:45 AM
I also remember BJ mentioning humans in Redwall very subtly. Something like Cluny came from a place with strange creatures who farmed or something like that.

I also found this on BJ's website when someone asked him if there were ever any humans,

"No, there are no humans, my first book Redwall did mention the horse and cart but no humans are ever in the stories and I don't intend that they should ever be. The ships are generally crewed by vermin."
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