The most random thread ever!!!

[Conrad the Painless]

*I get sucked into the hole* Curse yoooooooou!

[Delthion]

Hehehehe...

[Wylder Treejumper]

I feel one thing here that is emanating so strongly: Bias.
Mask should respect her father and not cut her hair; what she does with her hair when she is out of the house can no longer be his concern. Respect for parents is a sign of love, and disobedience can tear families apart. Now yes, no one is perfect, so her father undoubtedly has things that he thinks differently about that others, and probably things that others think 'aren't right'. Despite this, if it is not going to damage anything, Mask should still obey her father.
I hope everyone has the same respect and love for their own parents to understand what I am trying to say here.

   Ah. I believe that this is a fundamental difference in philosophy. It seems you think that one owes one's existance to your parents, and that you should honor them when possible- Obediance and trust (where it is due, at least) before reason and freedom. I think I'm correct there, but by all means correct me if I'm wrong.

   I, on the other hand, think otherwise. I owe my parents respect and kindness, so long as they return it, and I help them where I can. I don't owe them a debt. They're not my superiors, they might be my elders but not my betters. By having a child I think that you agree to sacrifice a lot for them, to help them where possible, and to let them be their own person when they need to. The child's wish comes before yours with trivial things, and in any decision related to them their opinion is just as valid as the opinion of anyone else. Of course, as a parent, it's your job to prevent them from getting in too much trouble. All about respect, mutual respect. Reason and freedom before obedience and trust.

  However, with more important things- when it is likely to affect the child negatively, or cause a significant problem- then being more strict makes sense. Protecting a child for their sake and restricting them for your own sake are entirely different things.

  My ethics, my opinion. Doesn't have to be yours.

I agree with Skarz. However you feel about it, you actually do owe a debt to your parents. Your parents care for you, pay for you, raise you, teach you, feed you, house you, clothe you, etc. And it can not be argued that the family is not "the parents'", as they are the ones providing and protecting. While I may not share an opinion as to enforcement of the haircut, though I personally don't like them, it is within the father or mother's authority to rule out such things.

[Jukka the Sling]

Aggghhh!!! I just read a bunch of spoilers for the upcoming Hobbit movie on TheOneRing.net! I couldn't help myself... but now I really wish I hadn't read 'em. So much tragedy just got ruined for me...

[The Skarzs]

The movies are just money-makers anyway; you'll live.

[Maudie]

Skarzs, sometime you remind me of Redwaller. Not right now, but sometimes.
If you don't know who Redwaller is, you've got some forum history to read up on, buddy.

[The Skarzs]

I know who he is; I just don't see how I could possibly remind you of him.
Perhaps I shall take a moment to look at his posts.

[Maudie]

*Ahem* she is a he.

Nevermind, you changed it.

[Jukka the Sling]

The movies are just money-makers anyway; you'll live.

True... but I like them anyway. At any rate, if I'm allowed, I'll see it, spoilers or no.

[The Skarzs]

Can't believe that made the shortest book into three movies.

*Ahem* she is a he.

Nevermind, you changed it.

I was confused with redwallgirl. And yes, I did fix it when I remembered.

[Jukka the Sling]

Can't believe that made the shortest book into three movies.

Have you seen them? If so, what's your opinion of them (as movies, not how close they are to the book)?

[Jetthebinturong]

I know you were asking Skarzs but I feel like answering

I loved An Unexpected Journey but hated Desolation of Smaug. Despite the awesomeness of Smaug himself it was excruciatingly painful to sit through the constant boring and repetitive fight scenes.

In relation to the book: THE BLACK ARROW CHANGE IS THE WORST AND MOST STUPID CHANGE JACKSON HAS MADE TO MIDDLE EARTH

[The Skarzs]

Y'know, that's pretty much how I feel, especially with the black arrow thing.

[Jukka the Sling]

Yeah, the black arrow thing was a kinda unnecessary change, but it served to make Smaug scarier and more of a threat, 'cause he can't be killed with a regular bow. And maybe there was a little too much Orc fighting, but the barrel scene with Legolas balancing on the dwarves' heads was pretty cool, IMO (even if a bit farfetched).

[Delthion]

Aggghhh!!! I just read a bunch of spoilers for the upcoming Hobbit movie on TheOneRing.net! I couldn't help myself... but now I really wish I hadn't read 'em. So much tragedy just got ruined for me...

Sorry...