Star Wars discussion

[Jukka the Sling]

@Jet:  I've seen conflicting things about whether or not they actually have an overarching plan for the trilogy.  I'll have to see what I can dig up.

[...]since JEW JEW wasn't directing.

...Did you just say what I think you did?

[Wylder Treejumper]

@Friar Poppy : If you have an issue with the movies, that can be discussed- but antisemitism will make you no allies here, sir, so I suggest that you watch your mouth.

[Friar Poppy]

@Jet:  I've seen conflicting things about whether or not they actually have an overarching plan for the trilogy.  I'll have to see what I can dig up.

[...]since JEW JEW wasn't directing.

...Did you just say what I think you did?

Did I say the F-word again

[Wylder Treejumper]

Being coy with such matters is unbecoming.

[Friar Poppy]

I'm actually trying to reference the South Park Movie

[Wylder Treejumper]

Troll. If you wish to ever be taken seriously by anyone on this forum, sir, I suggest you remove your ridiculous implications from your original post. Alternatively, you may choose not to, with the consequence that you will end up gagged. Consider yourself lucky to have the issue addressed by more civil means, as there are doubtless plenty who would be willing to do so otherwise.


I would advise you to not be so cavalier about such things in the future, if only to preserve from other people commenting on your lack of understanding of the world.

[Friar Poppy]

Troll. If you wish to ever be taken seriously by anyone on this forum, sir, I suggest you remove your ridiculous implications from your original post. Alternatively, you may choose not to, with the consequence that you will end up gagged. Consider yourself lucky to have the issue addressed by more civil means, as there are doubtless plenty who would be willing to do so otherwise.


I would advise you to not be so cavalier about such things in the future, if only to preserve from other people commenting on your lack of understanding of the world.

Interesting

[Maudie]

Friar Poppy's statement could have possibly been misinterpreted or misunderstood. She hasn't bothered to expound, but it seems as though she was referencing something and I for one know that references can be seriously misunderstood or misinterpreted by people not familiar with the source material. Everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt, so let's not jump the gun here.

[Friar Poppy]

Friar Poppy's statement could have possibly been misinterpreted or misunderstood. She hasn't bothered to expound, but it seems as though she was referencing something and I for one know that references can be seriously misunderstood or misinterpreted by people not familiar with the source material. Everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt, so let's not jump the gun here.

Saying "South Park" isn't even allowed here. I'm just not cut out for a "Family Friendly" environment.

[Jetthebinturong]

It's not about "family friendly" environments. Most people in non-family friendly environments would react in much the same way.

The "reference" such as it is refers to a character from South Park called Eric Cartman, who is notably antisemitic. Since the whole point of South Park is to shock and offend you, this is never really addressed. I have no trouble believing that Cartman would call J. J. Abrams "Jew Jew." The problem is, real people aren't supposed to emulate this behaviour. The characters of South Park are explicitly awful people.

The trouble is, however, referencing an antisemitic joke is still antisemitic in and of itself and isn't really justifiable.

[Friar Poppy]

It's not about "family friendly" environments. Most people in non-family friendly environments would react in much the same way.

The "reference" such as it is refers to a character from South Park called Eric Cartman, who is notably antisemitic. Since the whole point of South Park is to shock and offend you, this is never really addressed. I have no trouble believing that Cartman would call J. J. Abrams "Jew Jew." The problem is, real people aren't supposed to emulate this behaviour. The characters of South Park are explicitly awful people.

The trouble is, however, referencing an antisemitic joke is still antisemitic in and of itself and isn't really justifiable.

Actually what I was referencing from south park was the part in the 1999 Movie where Mr. Garrison says "Did you just say the F-Word?"

Cartmen says "Jew?"

Which was what I was really meaning since someone got mad at me for calling Abrams JEW JEW, Mimicking Jar Jar Binks. 

[Jukka the Sling]

With no context, it seemed like you weren't simply upset with J.J. Abrams about TFA (understandable), but were taking it a step further by insulting the fact that he's Jewish.  That was the problem.  My apologies if I ever came across as too harsh.

[LordTBT]

I highly doubt that this was something Rian thought up himself. They had to have planned out the major plot details before even making TFA, otherwise they're idiots who don't know anything about writing stories.

It was though. Abrams didn't plan out anything beyond TFA; Johnson was given free reign to do whatever he wanted. Now Abrams will attempt to fix it. I'm not seeing how any of this can be resolved well, especially with Abrams back at the helm. I'll watch episode 9, but there is no guarantee that I'll be in the theater opening night or weekend, which previously has always been a guarantee.

[Jetthebinturong]

Except that Daisy Ridley has always known who Rey's family were, and she thought The Force Awakens "answered a lot" and thought that it was obvious who Rey's parents were.

[LordTBT]

Except that Daisy Ridley has always known who Rey's family were, and she thought The Force Awakens "answered a lot" and thought that it was obvious who Rey's parents were.

Not true. That was her opinion. JJ wrote his film, and Rian was given freedom to do whatever he wanted to next. While I disagree entirely with this reviewers' thoughts on the movie and SW, this article provides that background for you:

https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/22/16787554/star-wars-the-last-jedi-rey-snoke-parents-questions-mysteries-rian-johnson-jj-abrams