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Started by phoenixfoden, October 28, 2012, 01:25:42 AM

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Søren

You know, there are some really disturbing horror books out there. I had no idea just how bad it was until I read an article about Stephan King's books. They are beyond disturbing, but not in a jump-scare way. And not exclusively a violent way.
I really hate the hype It has garnered, despite the wretched atrocity of a novel that it's based on.


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The Skarzs

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Cave potato.

Wylder Treejumper

Hmph. Just because I have a T in the middle of my personality type, doesn't make me an attraction. There are lots of other logically thinking people.
"'Tis the business of small minds to shrink, but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."
-Thomas Paine

"Integrity and firmness is all I can promise; these, be the voyage long or short, shall never forsake me although I may be deserted by all men."
-George Washington

Courage: Not only the willingness to die manfully, but also the determination to live decently.

Rosie Willowwater

Very true.  Now I wanna know what your full personality type is... (I'm sorry, I'm a Myers Briggs fanatic and I think these things are fascinating)
                    

Jetthebinturong

Just because Stephen King is good at writing horror doesn't make him disturbed. We all love to horrify our readers, whether we do it with gore, psychological horror, or just killing off beloved characters. He's just really good at it. Besides, it's not like he only writes horror. I mean, it's his speciality but he wrote other stuff too.
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"Understood." Will looked at Nico. "Will you be my buddy?"
"You're a dork," Nico announced.
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The Skarzs

It's not because of what he writes. It is just what I have heard about him.
Cave of Skarzs

Cave potato.

Andy

...this website is honestly scary sometimes.
Only actions can speak the truth.

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Jukka the Sling

Quote from: Wylder Treejumper on September 24, 2017, 03:03:10 AM
(Also the fact that Mormons really aren't supposed to watch R-rated films. That cuts out pretty much all of the genre)
It's not, like, a blanket ban on all R-rated movies, right?  I mean, some R-rated things aren't exactly inappropriate, just violent.  Like the Battle of the Five Armies Extended Edition.  It's a case-by-case basis.


Also, from what I've heard, the It book is not only extremely horrifying but also inappropriate in other ways.
"The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair, and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater." ~J.R.R. Tolkien

Delthion

As was the movie from my reading of Plugged In. ;D
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Wylder Treejumper

Quote from: Jukka the Sling on September 24, 2017, 07:17:34 PM
Quote from: Wylder Treejumper on September 24, 2017, 03:03:10 AM
(Also the fact that Mormons really aren't supposed to watch R-rated films. That cuts out pretty much all of the genre)
It's not, like, a blanket ban on all R-rated movies, right?  I mean, some R-rated things aren't exactly inappropriate, just violent.  Like the Battle of the Five Armies Extended Edition.  It's a case-by-case basis.
No, not really. Indeed, if anything, it's more strict than that, including many PG-13 movies as well. The standards we use to evaluate media are in the 13th article of faith: "If there is anything virtuous, lovely, of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things." Furthermore, the LDS youth standards guide lists the following types of media as those which should be avoided: anything vulgar, immoral, graphically violent, or pornographic. The combination of these two standards eliminates essentially every R-rated movie, and every horror movie, ever. A very few R-rated movies might slip through the cracks, but few enough that it is considered a general rule in LDS culture.

As for LOTR? I myself probably would stick with the original cut. There is a finite number of times I can watch Legolas shoot orcs through the head before I get sick of it (see the Hobbit #2). Indeed, minimizing violence is more faithful to the books; Tolkien was never graphic in his depictions of it. The story really isn't about war.
"'Tis the business of small minds to shrink, but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."
-Thomas Paine

"Integrity and firmness is all I can promise; these, be the voyage long or short, shall never forsake me although I may be deserted by all men."
-George Washington

Courage: Not only the willingness to die manfully, but also the determination to live decently.

Maudie

Yeah, most rated R movies are no goes for Mormons. It's kind of up to individual discretion.

I, for one, would apply the same rule to horror movies as well. Some of them I can't even watch the trailer without thinking "Nope nope nope". xD
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Wylder Treejumper

I classed horror and R-rated movies together there, although they overlap enough that it should be pretty obvious.
"'Tis the business of small minds to shrink, but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death."
-Thomas Paine

"Integrity and firmness is all I can promise; these, be the voyage long or short, shall never forsake me although I may be deserted by all men."
-George Washington

Courage: Not only the willingness to die manfully, but also the determination to live decently.

Jukka the Sling

Quote from: Delthion on September 24, 2017, 08:19:18 PM
As was the movie from my reading of Plugged In. ;D
Aye.

Quote from: Wylder Treejumper on September 25, 2017, 12:30:00 AM
Quote from: Jukka the Sling on September 24, 2017, 07:17:34 PM
Quote from: Wylder Treejumper on September 24, 2017, 03:03:10 AM
(Also the fact that Mormons really aren't supposed to watch R-rated films. That cuts out pretty much all of the genre)
It's not, like, a blanket ban on all R-rated movies, right?  I mean, some R-rated things aren't exactly inappropriate, just violent.  Like the Battle of the Five Armies Extended Edition.  It's a case-by-case basis.
No, not really. Indeed, if anything, it's more strict than that, including many PG-13 movies as well. The standards we use to evaluate media are in the 13th article of faith: "If there is anything virtuous, lovely, of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things." Furthermore, the LDS youth standards guide lists the following types of media as those which should be avoided: anything vulgar, immoral, graphically violent, or pornographic. The combination of these two standards eliminates essentially every R-rated movie, and every horror movie, ever. A very few R-rated movies might slip through the cracks, but few enough that it is considered a general rule in LDS culture.

As for LOTR? I myself probably would stick with the original cut. There is a finite number of times I can watch Legolas shoot orcs through the head before I get sick of it (see the Hobbit #2). Indeed, minimizing violence is more faithful to the books; Tolkien was never graphic in his depictions of it. The story really isn't about war.
Mm.  Those standards are good ones.  I've never seen a horror movie either, and I don't think I'd enjoy it.  I sympathize too much with onscreen characters, and a bunch of gruesome deaths would be rather upsetting for me.
"The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair, and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater." ~J.R.R. Tolkien

Andy

Not all horror involves gruesome death, for the record. Other things can be horrifying too.
Only actions can speak the truth.