LEAST favorite "good" race

[UNKN0WN]

Shrew and Hedgehog.

[Shinyjoltik]

Moles for sure. Just not real keen on them. No real reason there are just very few moles I liked.

[Wylder Treejumper]

Zurr, what you'm ave' 'gainst ee molers? Us'n dig gud 'oles! We do gud work furr ee h'Abbey! 'Thout us'ns, you'm have no rubble on ee wallers! And, we be maken summ Deeper'n'ever turni'n'tater'n'beetroot pie!

[Delthion]

I voted Otter.

[Thomas Barkshield]

Shrews are my least favorite. They're not that bad, but the Guosim need to lighten up!

[The Skarzs]

Ditto.

[Rusvul]

Voted 'Badger' because they are as a whole a paragon of good and right and cliche. As a whole they are unrealistic, if a FEW of their race were great noble leaders and the rest were... I dunno, at least somewhat grey? They're too perfect, a race of moral sues.

[Delthion]

So basically, if they're to chivalrous, noble, and good, then you dislike them? Books are for the imagination, not for comparing to the world their for getting away from it all, famine and plague and all those things. That's what books are for bringing to life characters that can ONLY exist in the imagination. If badgers can't exist in the real world, then that's good, isn't it? Because the making of a good author is making all of that come to life, and Brian Jacques was one of those authors.

[Jetthebinturong]

I for one agree with Rus though I don't think badgers are the worst because what they do is entertaining. The issue I have with badgers is that the story treats them as so good and righteous when they're not. The badgers of Redwall are bloodthirsty and violent and sometimes ruthless, why can't they be treated as any grey creature would be? However, Rus' point on a whole about clichéd paragons of the light is something that kind of turns me away from characters, people who can do no wrong do not exist and are boring as anything to read about. I want characters who are good people who do bad things or bad people who do good things, I want characters who are in a grey area of morality because they are the most interesting to read about

[Delthion]

But most of them are blood thirsty only when they lose control.

And I voted Otter, mainly because it seems as if everyone on this site is obsessed with them.

[Rusvul]

So basically, if they're to chivalrous, noble, and good, then you dislike them? Books are for the imagination, not for comparing to the world their for getting away from it all, famine and plague and all those things. That's what books are for bringing to life characters that can ONLY exist in the imagination. If badgers can't exist in the real world, then that's good, isn't it? Because the making of a good author is making all of that come to life, and Brian Jacques was one of those authors.

  I like people who are chivalrous, noble, and good in the real world. If I was to run in to a badger-esque person IRL, I'd probably like them a lot. But in a fantasy book, they're an overused character archetype. 'I can do no wrong, I will do no wrong, I have perfect judgement, I don't make mistakes, I am a guiding light for the entire world, I am not infinitely strong but my cause gives me strength, etc.'


Just my opinion. I don't like the idea of an entire race being anything, either- 'all elves are gracious' 'all half-orcs are ugly' 'all gnomes are cheerful,' either, so badgers annoy me a little in that aspect as well.

[The Skarzs]

Thinking about what you said, yes, that is one definite reason to dislike them, but more as a whole than as an individual. The use of badgers as characters in the books might not be what is overused, but how they're portrayed is very stereotypical, and makes those of them who have different traits to be more interesting, like Sunflash, who enjoyed farming, Cregga, whose rage consumed her at nearly all times, and lastly, the Tabura and Salixa from Eulalia, who were rather peaceful badgers.

[Captain Tammo]

How could anyone hate a mole?! D:
I mean I get that some may be impatient with their dialogue, but they're just so dang awesome!

[Tam and Martin]

And cute 

I wish they had more baby moles in the series. I love hearing their voices in the audiobook. Especially Triss - I forget the baby moles name in that one but he was cute.

[SilentSam]

Why do people not like hedgehogs? I guess they're 2nd because voles aren't in the poll.