Problems with the book Doomwyte

[Jukka the Sling]

Someone mentioned in another topic (I don't remember which) a couple of problems with Doomwyte. I'd never thought of 'em before, but now I'm wondering too.

How could a whole tribe of mice and a whole cult of evil birds and reptiles remain a secret for millennia, and only after thousands of seasons they're discovered by others?

[The Skarzs]

I ain't got an answer for ye.

[JangoCoolguy]

The dark day retconning came to the Tales of Redwall... x_x

[The Skarzs]

What.

[Tam and Martin]

Hmm....THis is a very tough question. I will think on it then come back with an answer.

[MeadowR]

It is a bit strange! To be fair it isn't completely improbable for these groups to be so well hidden away for such a long time. The okapi took a long time to be discovered after all the other large animals! Although the natives themselves will have been fully aware...

[Ungatt Trunn]

 Well, Gonff descovered Doomwyte a way long time before the book Doomwyte even happened. Though, he didn't really tell anyone for some weird reason. Can't say much on those other tribes and such. I'll have to think about that...

[The Skarzs]

Ehm, anyone notice that these events were never mentioned again? Like: when in the history were the Gonfelins forced out? What happened to them after they came back? How is that fertile area growing or being harvested any more?

[Tam and Martin]

Ehm, anyone notice that these events were never mentioned again? Like: when in the history were the Gonfelins forced out? What happened to them after they came back? How is that fertile area growing or being harvested any more?

Brian probably thought of them as he went to each book.

[Ungatt Trunn]

Ehm, anyone notice that these events were never mentioned again? Like: when in the history were the Gonfelins forced out? What happened to them after they came back? How is that fertile area growing or being harvested any more?

Remember that Doomwyte was amongst the three last books in the Redwall series. As it was just "descovered" and with only two more books in the series, it would make sense that BJ probably would have used them in another book. But he died before he would ever get the chance to.

[Wolfstar]

I just imagined that Mossflower is a big forest and any creature can get lost and any tribes hidden in it can stay hidden for a long time.

[Captain Tammo]

Exactly! I think people underestimate the things that can be hidden in Mossflower

[Blazemane]

I just imagined that Mossflower is a big forest and any creature can get lost and any tribes hidden in it can stay hidden for a long time.

The dark day retconning came to the Tales of Redwall... x_x

^^ Both of these. I think it's technically possible for the Wytes and the Gonfelins to have remained undiscovered after Gonff, so I won't say the book is in error. But it's also really hard for me to believe that they'd remain undiscovered.

With that said, once that premise is set up and the book moves on, it feels alright to me to let it go and get caught up in the story that results from it.

[Vilu Daskar]

If they see the birds or reptiles they would probably just think it's a bird or it's a snake

[Ungatt Trunn]

Exactly! I think people underestimate the things that can be hidden in Mossflower

True. The Woods can be the greatest hiding place for any creature, no matter the size.