Swans

Lady Amber · May 21, 2014, 01:38:13 AM

Has anyone noticed that swans in the series don't talk? Other birds do, but swans don't. Thoughts?

Jetthebinturong · May 21, 2014, 01:42:07 AM

I think they're all mute swans, mute swans hiss but don't make any other noise. It would make sense for the mute swans to not be able to talk in a Redwall universe

Lady Amber · May 22, 2014, 01:18:51 AM

Oh, yeah, I guess I didn't think of that.

Does it say they're mute in the books? 'Cause I don't remember if it did or not.

Jetthebinturong · May 22, 2014, 08:08:49 AM

I think the one in Legend of Luke is referred to as a mute swan

JangoCoolguy · May 23, 2014, 12:10:42 AM

Plus, I think Brian just wanted to depict them as, well...beasts.

Not every animal that shows up in a story with talking animals has to be sentient ya know.

In the Tales of Redwall's case, some creatures are just witless brutes driven by base instincts.

Also...the notion of giant killer swans just cracks me up!

The Mask · May 23, 2014, 07:31:50 AM

It's nae really that funny. A boy-o at my school has 7 scars down 'is 'and from a swan attack.

Jetthebinturong · May 23, 2014, 05:01:19 PM

Swans are incredibly territorial and can break limbs

The Skarzs · May 23, 2014, 05:02:29 PM

They can be as large or larger than eagles, with wingspans reaching close to eight feet.

JangoCoolguy · June 04, 2014, 05:57:03 PM

Quote from: The Mask on May 23, 2014, 07:31:50 AM
It's nae really that funny. A boy-o at my school has 7 scars down 'is 'and from a swan attack.

Whoa! Sorry to hear about that

Quote from: Jetthebinturong on May 23, 2014, 05:01:19 PM
Swans are incredibly territorial and can break limbs

Quote from: The Skarzs on May 23, 2014, 05:02:29 PM
They can be as large or larger than eagles, with wingspans reaching close to eight feet.

Yipe! I never knew. I'm just so used to them being associated with grace/beauty/elegance or seeing them in kiddy/girly media...

Leatho Shellhound · June 04, 2014, 08:05:26 PM

Quote from: JangoCoolguy on June 04, 2014, 05:57:03 PM
Quote from: The Skarzs on May 23, 2014, 05:02:29 PM
They can be as large or larger than eagles, with wingspans reaching close to eight feet.

Yipe! I never knew. I'm just so used to them being associated with grace/beauty/elegance or seeing them in kiddy/girly media...

yeah, well your mind set is changed after reading Redwall.

Edraithel · June 05, 2014, 09:28:51 PM

Beauty and danger go hand in hand.

Unimaginative · June 05, 2014, 09:44:42 PM

I once got bitten by a Duck. Is that relevant?

The Skarzs · June 06, 2014, 12:21:19 AM

A goose is bigger.

Cornflower MM · June 07, 2014, 08:52:40 PM

Quote from: JangoCoolguy on June 04, 2014, 05:57:03 PM
Yipe! I never knew. I'm just so used to them being associated with grace/beauty/elegance or seeing them in kiddy/girly media...

Excuse me? You think of swans, and you think of them being associated with girly media? That's stereo-typing right there.

Tam and Martin · June 10, 2014, 11:50:47 PM

Quote from: Jetthebinturong on May 22, 2014, 08:08:49 AM
I think the one in Legend of Luke is referred to as a mute swan

So is the one in Mossflower.

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