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[LT Sandpaw]

While Iron Man was being slightly close minded, it doesn't change the fact that Tony was right for the wrong reasons and that Cap was wrong for the right reasons.

[Eulaliaaa!]

Nope. Iron Man was trying to kill someone who was brainwashed and forced to kill people, it wasn't Bucky's fault. Cap was just trying to do the right thing and keep his friend safe.

[LT Sandpaw]

Exactly, like I said, Iron Man was doing the right thing for the wrong reasons. He was trying to get the right thing, justice, but he was doing it for vengeance, not to save lives or help people. Cap was helping his friend, but he was doing the wrong thing, he was doing that wrong thing for the right reasons, because he knew his friend didn't deserve to die, Bucky deserved a fair trial, but what Cap did was still wrong.

[Eulaliaaa!]

I don't think Bucky would have gotten a fair trial, too many people were trying to kill him. And part of it was about whether or not the government should have had more control, which I'm still on Cap's side for that.

[Delthion]

While Iron Man was being slightly close minded, it doesn't change the fact that Tony was right for the wrong reasons and that Cap was wrong for the right reasons.

That last part is exactly what I thought!

Woah no. He was not on the right side, Iron Man was wrong.

Stop being silly, Cap is clearly wrong.

Finally someone agrees with me!

[Eulaliaaa!]

No Del, no. Iron Man was wrong. He even admitted he was wrong when he went to help Cap and Bucky near the end of the movie. The only reason they fought after that was because Iron Man found out Bucky killed his parents. He didn't care that Bucky was brainwashed. Trust me. Cap was right. 

[James Gryphon]

He even admitted he was wrong.

So Iron Man was wrong about something. That doesn't make that lawbreaking vigilante Cap right.

[Eulaliaaa!]

;_; you too?!

No. Cap was right. He saved his friend's life. Bucky was brainwashed and forced to hurt people, he didn't do it by choice. If Wot was brainwashed and forced to kill someone, I'd still have her back if people were trying to hunt her down and kill her.

And if this is about Cap not signing, well I agree with him too. If the Avengers had to wait for all 117 countries to approve of them going into a country that needs them, there probably wouldn't be a country left to save when they got there. Every second could count if they're trying to save as many lives as they can.

[Gonff the Mousethief]

Something I noticed that kinda goes along with this. Tony wanted to sign and let the government control him, right? Well, that is what happened to Bucky. Hyrdra forced him to do things that if he was not brainwashed he would not want to do. So really, Steve is trying to save both Bucky and Tony from the same thing. He's seen it all before, what complete government control can do, so he had to rescue his friends from it.

Also, Bucky lost his left arm and Tony's left arm was hurting the hold movie, plus the song "Left Hand Free" played during the Spider-Man part. Pretty cool. ]

[Hickory]

Yes but Tony knows what he's doing. Bucky was pretty much forced through the whole thing. Besides the fact that Iron Man would never let himself get brainwashed, he himself decided to sign it.

[Søren]

[Hickory]

EVERYBODY.

Look at the poll.

NOBODY VOTED BUCKY.

Isn't that good.

[Søren]

EVERYBODY.

Look at the poll.

NOBODY VOTED BUCKY.

Isn't that good?

I fixed that for you, Grammar Nazi.

I voted Black Panther, but Bucky is a really close second. I don't understand why nobody likes him, he's awesome!
Besides, my third choice, Falcon, didn't get any votes either...

[Hickory]

No I put that down as a statement because there's no argument.

[Søren]

Cap is good, right? Bucky is basically Cap 2.0 with a metal arm. It makes him cooler.