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Started by Rainshadow, June 08, 2015, 12:20:30 AM

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Eulaliaaa!

@Sky: I'd just like to say that it is not my fault that Rus was echoing me, I had nothing to do with it.

And my reasons for voting Corny out were not meant to make anyone feel paranoid, that was not my goal. I have posted those reasons multiple times, and I was only trying to find the Mafia. I'm sorry if I caused you to panic and change your vote, but I wasn't trying to. Because the last thing we need is panic, we have to work together. If you didn't think Corny was Mafia, it confuses me as to why you would vote for her.
Just pretend there is something interesting and unique written here... I have nothing to say.

Søren

I'm worin on a reply but ice barley had any time all day.


I'm retired from the forum

Skyblade

I didn't think Corny was Mafia but there was always that possibility and your accusations did make sense. An aggressive attitude is good; it makes the Mafia members feel uncomfortable and maybe mess up.

You're good. It was just one thing you said that made me flip. I would rather not point it out, at least right now. Don't ask me for a reason. You'll just have to trust me on this one.

@Soren: Understandable.

Sor is my 2nd suspect though. Mainly because I'm less suspicious about Eul and Gonff - at least right now.

Thanks, MatthiasMan, for the avatar!

Eulaliaaa!

Aggressive? :P I didn't know I was being aggressive... and I'll trust you (probably not a good idea. Though I do suspect you the least, you seem set on finding Mafia, not scaring people into voting for innocent citizens. Though, sometimes I do have a hard time reading into what people say.), though I'd like to know why when this is over.
Just pretend there is something interesting and unique written here... I have nothing to say.

Skyblade

Eh, I don't know. You're definitely been active though, and that's the type of Mafia playing we need.

I'll explain after the game is over. Thankee, though.

Thanks, MatthiasMan, for the avatar!

Eulaliaaa!

No problem. Though, now I'm very curious, how aggressive were my posts?  :P was I being mean? I have trouble telling sometimes (and in most of those situations, I come off as a jerk and don't even know it until someone tells me).
Just pretend there is something interesting and unique written here... I have nothing to say.

Skyblade

They weren't really that aggressive. No, you weren't being mean.

Trust me, it gets much worse in other places. I've been there. People will directly insult each other. In these forums, though, that's hardly the case.

Thanks, MatthiasMan, for the avatar!

Eulaliaaa!

*breathes sigh of relief* ok, thanks. Because I honestly couldn't see anything wrong with my posts.
Just pretend there is something interesting and unique written here... I have nothing to say.

Gonff the Mousethief

Sky has taken these Mafia games to a whole new level  :D.

I don't really know why, but Sky is seeming just a tad suspicious. She would be one you wouldn't expect, plus she is playing it as she is trying to find the Mafia, when really it's her that we should be trying to find. Or she is doing the right thing.
I want the world of Tolkien,
The message of Lewis;
The adventure of Jacques,
And the heart of Milne.
But I want the originality of me.



Skyblade

Why, thank you, Gonff! :) It's understandable. Banya pulled that trick in Round 1.

However, I am really trying to help us find the Mafia. That's why I post so frequently, and with analysis that requires me to dig through the thread and others' posts.

If you want more specific reasoning as to why I'm not Mafia, though, I can see why. Here we go:

- I've been getting us on the right track by making sure everyone understands not to rely on the story all the time.

- Again, the thing about Sage. He was the only person to vote for me in Day 1, with everyone else preferring Rrrrr. He was killed the Night after. Mafia Skyblade would be drawing attention to herself and making a bad move by killing the one person who voted for her. Mafia Skyblade would have chosen somebody else to make sure she wasn't called out on this.

- I've been going to extremes with my posts. I am by far the most center-of-attention player. Especially as this is my first Mafia game on this forum, for me to draw so much attention with my... somewhat radical gameplay doesn't sound like a Mafia thing to do.

- If you look at Round 2.5, the two posts I made there are very similar to the ones here: they're about building up the Town so everyone can be more productive in finding the Mafia. My approach there is similar to what I've been doing in this thread. And I wasn't Mafia in that game at all; I was killed Night 1 :P

You may find my defenses lacking, in which case I'm fine with you calling me out so I can continue justifying myself. Heck, if you still think I'm Mafia, I encourage you to say so. By convincing you all that I am on your side, you can use Process of Elimination and it'll be easier to zone in on the killer.

Thanks, MatthiasMan, for the avatar!

Rusvul

   In Mafia, if you post to early accusing someone, you become a suspect. (You also have little to go by except the story, which, while quite well written, is of little use for determining suspects.) I find it disadvantageous to do that. So I waited until several others had voiced concerns, thinking I would respond to them with either agreement or a different suspect. However, I have been fairly distracted as of late, (Video game updates, D&D characters, learning to snap) I've not been to active. It looks like I've waited too long and made myself a suspect in the process. Oops.

   Sky- You talk a lot. Too much, one might even say. You seem to be trying to rally everyone behind your flag; I only hope that your flag isn't spattered with the blood of our fallen comrades. You're either a valuable ally or a cunning enemy, and you're good enough that I can't tell which.
You're a suspect, because of how emphatically non-mafia you are if for no other reason.

  Soren- You haven't said much, and what you have said has been fairly neutral. You haven't said anything really incriminating, but you haven't helped a great deal either. I don't know about you.

  Eul- You went pretty hard after Corn in Day 2, but then I'm not really one to talk. She did act quite suspicious, and while in the end it may have been a bad idea to lynch her, she certainly didn't seem at all innocent until just before she died. You seem fairly rational and reasonable... I get the impression you're not Mafia.

  Gonff- You defended Corn after she made some fairly suspicious moves, and then you quickly dropped it when you were accused by Eul. That seems like what someone would do if their Mafia partner was accused, but then they were called out for trying to defend them. Of course. they quickly detach themselves. I think you and Sky are my top suspects.

Skyblade

Nice to see you post! We need all the opinions we can get.

The bad thing in my scenario is I'm not sure how I can show you that my fervent posts are motivated by genuinely trying to find the Mafia instead of the antithesis.

Okay, I will try. Firstly, I don't know how many people knew this, but I am very competitive. Have you seen me in Overlord's Orders? I placed 2nd twice, and that's because I got busy at the end and let my challengers win. I fight hard, and I play my best to WIN. This isn't just for games, either. In real life, I am an ambitious student with high goals, and I am passionate about reaching those goals.

So, given my competitive personality, I would not do a half-baked job in this game. Especially given how much I like it. Mafia hunting is my duty, and I take it seriously.

Now, I can see why you might worry that this is a Mafia ploy of mine. But hear me out. I'm cautious and I'm not horribly stupid. Obviously, I'm aware that my posts are drawing attention to myself. Mafia don't want to do that, in general. Banya was a radical, but as a Mafia member, would I really pull the same trick she did one game before? Not to mention that many people from around 1 are back for the second one.

By posting a lot and so thoroughly like this, I am simply drawing more suspicion to myself. That's something Mafia clearly wants to avoid. Even Banya didn't go to my extent.

Of course, you must consider every possibility, and I completely understand your suspicions of me. Heck, I woud I suspect myself. But as stands, the idea of first-time forum Mafia Skyblade making a big show of herself doesn't seem very likely. Citizen Skyblade, who shouldn't have to care about her image as much and just wants to catch the Mafia, is willing to take the risk because she knows of her own innocence.

Oh, and another thing. Mafia drawing attention to themself can be very bad because it makes it more likely the Detective will investigate them.

I admit that the way I play leaves me very open to suspicion. That doesn't mean I will post less and let the Mafia have an easier time slipping by.


I must say, I do suspect Søren a bit more. His mild-mannered attitude can be an attempt to fly through the game without getting lynched in the day. Gonff is also a bit like this, but he seems more active. Also, I'm still convinced Corn is more likely to be innocent, and Gonff's vote on Eul gives him a town boost in my eyes.

And that's my essay. It just came out of my fingers, and it wouldn't stop. Hope you liked it.

Thanks, MatthiasMan, for the avatar!

Gonff the Mousethief

@Rus: I did defend Cornflower for I felt her innocent, knowingly that it would make me and her seem as partners, but it was that or let her get killed, and I didn't succeed. Now I am trying to defend myself because this is a game. Also, I was Mafia last round and me and Banya had everything planned, with her getting killed and me keeping a low radar. Sadly, the game went sour went Jet found out, but it was a good plan.

@Sky: I see what you are doing and have less suspicion of you. Oh, and the reason I became active is that I am just bored of Summer right now.
Here is one reason that is very, very, far fetched. If Eul is the Cupid, she may have put Corn and Jet together, for she felt either it would make sense or she felt intimidated. She even could have talked with the ones who she thought Mafia and become a sympathizer, teaming up and killing two birds with one stone. Of course, this could be vice versa with her being Mafia and the Cupid doing this. Now it at not all add up and it against the rules, but it's one far flung idea. Gosh this game makes you think.
I want the world of Tolkien,
The message of Lewis;
The adventure of Jacques,
And the heart of Milne.
But I want the originality of me.



Skyblade

Thankee, Gonff :D

You're all good at this. I'm glad the game is moving along, and I'm having a rough time finding the Mafia. I would like to hear Soren's point of view.

Gonff, nice thinking you've got there. Except I don't think the Cupid can talk to the Mafia. The Cupid doesn't know any of the roles; the Couple is just kind of random.

Thanks, MatthiasMan, for the avatar!

Søren

I honestly was turned off by this game and all its fighting. I hardly checked it because you guys were at each other's thoughts and I thought that everyone should calm down and stop playing if need be. It was really stupid. But, it seems everyone has calmed down again.

Here's my analysis (keep in mind though I'm exhausted because it's been a VERY tiring and long day yesterday that ended in my getting very little sleep.)

-Gonff
You could be Mafia, but for some reason I'm leaning toward everyone else. Rus made a good point, but so did you and ... I dunno. It's hard to choose
-Rus
I'm not sure about you either. You could be Mafia, but maybe you're the Sharrif? Aggressive is the word I'd use to describe you when you post, which is also an investigative trait. But again, I have no idea.
-Eul
I still think Eul is more then a civilian, probably mafia. She was able to  maneuver herself out of getting lynched. I think she wanted to keep the game going, knowing if she died it would be over. Unless she had a partner.
-Sky
I actually don't suspect you as much as I did before. I think your defense has been pretty genuine, but again, I can't decide. The only thing holding me back with you is the sheer amount of posting. It just makes me think of Eul and her wanting to keep the game going. Anyone who's invested time into being a Mafia wouldn't want the round to go inactive and have all they're work wasted, so they try to keep it alive. For this reason I also suspect Eul.


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