Woodlanders that we wish had lived (SPOILER ALERT)

[Ashleg]

I hear a lot "   (villain)   " we wish had lived, but what about the good guys?
For me it would be Martin's grandma (I forget her name), Ranguvar, Abbot Mortimer, and Warbeak (oh man, I cried when she died ;v;)

Who are yours?

[Hickory]

Windred was never confirmed dead, but she probably passed away, marching and working in the slave chain.

I'm sure most people on the forum agree that Rose shoulda lived. Honestly.

Personally, I would've liked to see Mellus live. I mean, she needed to die becuase of the plot, but I liked her and she was a great character.

[Ashleg]

Oh, Mellus! I liked her too. I knew there was a badger I was forgetting.

[Dannflower Reguba]

Windred was never confirmed dead, but she probably passed away, marching and working in the slave chain.

I'm sure most people on the forum agree that Rose shoulda lived. Honestly.

Personally, I would've liked to see Mellus live. I mean, she needed to die becuase of the plot, but I liked her and she was a great character.

       Some of us would argue Rose ain't dead.  Un-orthodox viewpoints aside. I'm not sure I'm totally willing to accept the death of the hedgehog from Salamandastron. I find it hard to believe the eel would've bitten a spiked creature hard enough to kill him, and he was a fun character to boot. And another one I can't name ( ), the otter from Rogue Crew that got shot with the ballista through the unlocked gate... They shouldn't have unlocked the gate honestly.

       Now, quick question. Is this thread about those that SHOULD have lived, or we WISH had lived? Because Ranguvar didn't stand much of a chance, Warbeak and her tribe nose-dived an army of rats with bows. Sad, most certainly, but they were deaths that were hard to avoid.

       Just gonna throw this out there, the Kestral from Outcast of Redwall.

[Hickory]

Kite.

[Jetthebinturong]

Skarlath was a kestrel. Redwall wiki says so.

I don't think any characters that died should have lived. I don't like threads like these because that's changing the entire story.

And Dan, whether or not Rose is dead is irrelevant. She is no longer present in the story. The idea that she may have lived is a nice thing to think, sure but it doesn't matter since she's never seen again.

[Ashleg]

       Some of us would argue Rose ain't dead.  Un-orthodox viewpoints aside. I'm not sure I'm totally willing to accept the death of the hedgehog from Salamandastron. I find it hard to believe the eel would've bitten a spiked creature hard enough to kill him, and he was a fun character to boot. And another one I can't name ( ), the otter from Rogue Crew that got shot with the ballista through the unlocked gate... They shouldn't have unlocked the gate honestly.

       Now, quick question. Is this thread about those that SHOULD have lived, or we WISH had lived? Because Ranguvar didn't stand much of a chance, Warbeak and her tribe nose-dived an army of rats with bows. Sad, most certainly, but they were deaths that were hard to avoid.

       Just gonna throw this out there, the Kestral from Outcast of Redwall.

Oh geez, by should I meant wish, I thought it meant the same thing :p. Changed it.

[Izeroth]

 Call me cold-hearted, but I don't think Rose should have lived. We can invent all these alternate scenarios, but the fact is that, had Rose lived, Martin never would have travelled to Mossflower, never would have forged his sword, and never would have helped free the woodlanders from Tsarmina's tyrannical rule. Mossflower's history would have been irreversibly changed, probably not for the better.

[James Gryphon]

I still feel that Martin's contributions to saving Mossflower are overrated.

Off-hand I don't disagree with any of the deaths in the series. They're necessary to add emotional flavor to the stories; if nobody ever died or was in any danger it would be pretty boring.

[Hickory]

Skarlath was a kestrel. Redwall wiki says so.

I don't think any characters that died should have lived. I don't like threads like these because that's changing the entire story.

And Dan, whether or not Rose is dead is irrelevant. She is no longer present in the story. The idea that she may have lived is a nice thing to think, sure but it doesn't matter since she's never seen again.

I should have clarified. Kite is the otter.

[Eulaliaaa!]

I agree that most characters that died were meant to die, especially Rose. She needed to die for Redwall to exist. But Scarleth? Scarleth? Why, why did Brian Jacques have Scarleth die? I loved Scarleth, he really should be lived.

[Ashleg]

Skarlath...Yeeeah, I agree.
Maybe he killed him off so it would seem more fair since the good guys couldn't spy on the baddies?

[Jukka the Sling]

Skarlath was a kestrel. Redwall wiki says so.

I don't think any characters that died should have lived. I don't like threads like these because that's changing the entire story.

And Dan, whether or not Rose is dead is irrelevant. She is no longer present in the story. The idea that she may have lived is a nice thing to think, sure but it doesn't matter since she's never seen again.

I should have clarified. Kite is the otter.

Yeah.

(Kinda off topic....  I was reading snippets of my copy of TRC the other day in preparation for a oneshot, and I realized that since the crossbow bolt on the Greenshroud was as thick as the mast (it said so when they were attempting to shoot Lady Violet), when it hit Kite, it either must have torn her body in two or carried it along and pinned it to the Abbey door.  Simply awful.  )

[The Skarzs]

There is no way the bolts could have been that thick. The crossbow would have to be as wide as the ship would be long.

[Jukka the Sling]

Yeah, I thought it was a bit weird.  Checked that part just now, and apparently I misread it.  The bolt is actually half the LENGTH of the mast.