Rose of Noonvale - Sue?

[MatthiasMan]

I don't even know.

[WildDoogyPlumm]

I honestly think she was a Mary-Sue.  I mean, she has one or two little flaws, but she seems(at least to me) to have been designed as Martin's perfect love interest, and that almost instantly creates a Sue.

[MatthiasMan]

True, true.

[KaiTheDog]

I honestly think she was a Mary-Sue.  I mean, she has one or two little flaws, but she seems(at least to me) to have been designed as Martin's perfect love interest, and that almost instantly creates a Sue.

I once wondered what it would be like if MTW was a fanfiction instead of being canon. Needless to say, if this WAS the case, then Rose would have certainly been a Sue.

[WildDoogyPlumm]

I honestly think she was a Mary-Sue.  I mean, she has one or two little flaws, but she seems(at least to me) to have been designed as Martin's perfect love interest, and that almost instantly creates a Sue.

I once wondered what it would be like if MTW was a fanfiction instead of being canon. Needless to say, if this WAS the case, then Rose would have certainly been a Sue.

Mary-Sues can be in books too, so it wouldn't even necessarily need to be a fan fiction.

[Redwallfan7]

Rose and Martin are also some of my favorite characters

[KaiTheDog]

I honestly think she was a Mary-Sue.  I mean, she has one or two little flaws, but she seems(at least to me) to have been designed as Martin's perfect love interest, and that almost instantly creates a Sue.

I once wondered what it would be like if MTW was a fanfiction instead of being canon. Needless to say, if this WAS the case, then Rose would have certainly been a Sue.

Mary-Sues can be in books too, so it wouldn't even necessarily need to be a fan fiction.

That's not what I was implying. Rose had sue-like qualities that, had MTW been a fanfiction, would have been pointed out and bashed more by the readers than having a good part of the fandom adore her. Don't get me wrong when I say that, as I've continuously rolled my eyes at pretty much everything to do with Rose's vocal talents. Screeching like an eagle and not having a sore, rough voice afterwards doesn't make much sense to me. And don't get me started about the bee incident. I'm also quite sure some people have done the same thing, if not for her voice but for other things, such as her looks.

[WildDoogyPlumm]

I honestly think she was a Mary-Sue.  I mean, she has one or two little flaws, but she seems(at least to me) to have been designed as Martin's perfect love interest, and that almost instantly creates a Sue.

I once wondered what it would be like if MTW was a fanfiction instead of being canon. Needless to say, if this WAS the case, then Rose would have certainly been a Sue.

Mary-Sues can be in books too, so it wouldn't even necessarily need to be a fan fiction.

That's not what I was implying. Rose had sue-like qualities that, had MTW been a fanfiction, would have been pointed out and bashed more by the readers than having a good part of the fandom adore her. Don't get me wrong when I say that, as I've continuously rolled my eyes at pretty much everything to do with Rose's vocal talents. Screeching like an eagle and not having a sore, rough voice afterwards doesn't make much sense to me. And don't get me started about the bee incident. I'm also quite sure some people have done the same thing, if not for her voice but for other things, such as her looks.

Yeah, I understand what you're saying.  Rose really annoyed me, and with the bee incident I was like, "Wait, WHAT? Did that really just work?!" 

[Dannflower Reguba]

Okay, yeah that part WAS pretty stupid... But still, why does everyone hate Rose!

[Redwallfan7]

I don't hate I like her

[Ungatt Trunn]

What exactly dos "sue" mean? I've never heard that word before (Except in abbreviation's of certain names).

[Bragoon]

When used in this context, it's a slang term for someone (usually a woman, of course) who seems perfect, someone who can do no wrong. 

[Ungatt Trunn]

Having matured and studied the subject since I last posted here, this is what I have to say...NO!!!! ROSE WAS NOT A MARY SUE!!!! NOT IN THE LEAST!!!!! AHHH, WHY DOES EVERYBODY THINK SHE'S A SUE!!!!! AHHHGGG!!!! *Awkard cough* Eh, sorry about that, I just had to let it all out. I don't think that Rose was a sue at all.

[Tam and Martin]

I don't think she was but I think she was at the same time. It's kind of hard to ay.

[Ungatt Trunn]

I don't think she was but I think she was at the same time. It's kind of hard to ay.

Well, she wasn't like perfect at everything...